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The Jews are God's chosen people. God must be worshiped in spirit and truth, so who are the Jews according man and who are the Jews according to God? Only one answer matters. I have quite a few 'Solomon's' in my family tree, but it's the Lord Jesus Christ that makes me a Jew.

Romans 2:28-29
King James Version
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Revelation 2:9
King James Version
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
 
God has always had a client nation........Why do you not understand this?

Probably because you hate the United States of America.........We ARE His client nation at the moment. It's certainly not Canada.

Israel will once again take over this client nation status in the near future.


A free nation to proclaim His Gospel has always been a part of Gods plan.

We are no longer in the OT, why can you not understand this...... and you have no biblical basis for saying that the USA is God's client nation.... none.

The USA is not mentioned in scripture to assert that it is, is apart from reality, truly!

Generally speaking these type of accusations do not merit a response and broad sweeping statements are the worse..... but here I go

...... again, I have stated this so many times already.... I dislike most of USA's foreign policy especially post Kennedy.

And your futurist speculation is just that, I prefer not to turn my faith into an instrument ongoing ever ceasing non-fulfilled speculation.

You really sadden me when you post like this because it is all so unfounded on a personal level and completely disengaged from any biblical reality.

You set yourself against the words of Christ Jesus and Paul his humble servant you makes it oh so very clear...

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Romans 2:28
 
We are no longer in the OT, why can you not understand this...... and you have no biblical basis for saying that the USA is God's client nation.... none.

The USA is not mentioned in scripture to assert that it is, is apart from reality, truly!

Generally speaking these type of accusations do not merit a response and broad sweeping statements are the worse..... but here I go

...... again, I have stated this so many times already.... I dislike most of USA's foreign policy especially post Kennedy.

And your futurist speculation is just that, I prefer not to turn my faith into an instrument ongoing ever ceasing non-fulfilled speculation.

You really sadden me when you post like this because it is all so unfounded on a personal level and completely disengaged from any biblical reality.

You set yourself against the words of Christ Jesus and Paul his humble servant you makes it oh so very clear...

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Romans 2:28
You go!
 
Thank you.

Actually I see a few errors..should have proof read ..lol... but the jist of it is there.

....instrument ongoing, never ceasing, non-fulfilled speculation.

And for the record I do not hate any country or their peoples, and those accusations are very low brow.

Agree with you completely they generally do not warrant any kind of response...... but on occasion one has to refresh the record and make corrections because lies cannot always go unchallenged.
 
Actually I see a few errors..should have proof read ..lol, but the jist of it is there.

....instrument ongoing, never ceasing, non-fulfilled speculation.

And for the record I do not hate any country or their peoples, and those accusations are very low brow.

Agree with you completely they generally do not warrant any kind of response...... but on occasion one has to refresh the record and make corrections because lies cannot always go unchallenged.
I understand. It's not always easy and we do our best. Thank the Lord for that and pray for patience. I'm thankful for the post.
 
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Agree up to this point.




Israel is blessed, they are the only friend of America in the ME. They are not a Godly nation, neither is America. There isn't a Godly nation in this day and time, so why act like Israel is unique?
Allies of America don't spy on us or blackmail our presidents (Bill Clinton) our have lobbyists (AIPAC) caught helping classified papers and documents from being exchanged. Paragraphs of Israeli's bad behavior toward America could be posted on here.
 
A Jew faithful to the New Covenant economy is the BETROTHED virgin Bride of Christ. And is saved.

Paul states otherwise ... you cannot deal with the verses which contradict this can you?

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Galatians 3:28


They destroy your theological system, yes you have nicely constructed system where all the pieces work together.... hmm where have we seen that before?

Oh and maybe start with Adam where it actually begins Genesis 3:15, and realize God's solution fulfilled completely in Christ.

The correct view .....Covenant Theology affirms that God’s revelation unfolds over time, but unlike dispensationalism, it maintains a unified covenant of grace from Genesis to Revelation.
The ceremonial laws (like food restrictions) and typological commands (like Noah’s ark) were fulfilled in Christ and are no longer binding.

Basic New Covenant theology (Heb. 8–10; Acts 10).
Covenant theology, the correct theology, sees continuity in God’s redemptive purpose, with one people of God across all ages, while dispensationalism divides Scripture into disconnected dispensations.
One God, one Christ, one People, one Bible, one Salvation.

If you are in Christ, you're Abraham’s seed (Gal. 3:29)—

You will never be a dispensationalist if you simply believe the bible.
 
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Paul states otherwise ... you cannot deal with the verses which contradict this can you?

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Galatians 3:28


They destroy your theological system, yes you have nicely constructed system where all the pieces work together.... hmm where have we seen that before?

Oh and maybe start with Adam where it actually begins Genesis 3:15, and realize God's solution fulfilled completely in Christ.

The correct view .....Covenant Theology affirms that God’s revelation unfolds over time, but unlike dispensationalism, it maintains a unified covenant of grace from Genesis to Revelation.
The ceremonial laws (like food restrictions) and typological commands (like Noah’s ark) were fulfilled in Christ and are no longer binding.

Basic New Covenant theology (Heb. 8–10; Acts 10).
Covenant theology, the correct theology, sees continuity in God’s redemptive purpose, with one people of God across all ages, while dispensationalism divides Scripture into disconnected dispensations.
One God, one Christ, one People, one Bible, one Salvation.

If you are in Christ, you're Abraham’s seed (Gal. 3:29)—

You will never be a dispensationalist if you simply believe the bible.
Look are you capable of getting off that Galatians 3:28 hobby horse one trick pony?
Is Paul as biblically illiterate as you say he is?
There is an entire Bible that MUST harmonize, including ALL of the OT prophecies.
And the replacement theologians will NEVER rightly understand the whole of it.

Act 22:3
I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

Act 21:39
But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.

Act 18:2
And he found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla (because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to depart from Rome); and he came to them.

Act 18:24
Now a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man and mighty in the Scriptures, came to Ephesus.

Act 19:34
But when they found out that he was a Jew, all with one voice cried out for about two hours, “Great is Diana of the Ephesians!”
 
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Chosen means elect. Elect means believer in Christ. God doesn't choose or consider unbelievers as his people. You have turned the Christian faith on its head because you follow the doctrine of unbelieving pharisees who did believe they were God's chosen
Why do you think elect is always saved? The bible indeed DOES call enemies of the gospel ELECT, can you believe it? The word elect does not always mean a saved person, it can be talking about an elect nation, angel, person for a job etc.

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

There it is in plain english, enemies of Christians, enemies of the Gospel, still beloved for the fathers' sakes as touching the ELECTION.
How can you ever explain this verse?
 
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

There it is in plain english, enemies of Christians, enemies of the Gospel, still beloved for the fathers' sakes as touching the ELECTION.
How can you ever explain this verse?

Let me paraphrase what Paul is saying:

Concerning the gospel, the part of natural Israel that doesn't believe the gospel are enemies of God through the gentiles who do believe the gospel; but the remnant of Israelites who believe the gospel are beloved by God through the promises made to the fathers.

You're not making a distinction between those who believe the gospel (the remnant) and those who do not believe the gospel (the partial hardening), which distinction Paul takes pains to make throughout Romans 9-11
 
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Why do you think elect is always saved? The bible indeed DOES call enemies of the gospel ELECT, can you believe it? The word elect does not always mean a saved person, it can be talking about an elect nation, angel, person for a job etc.

Concerning the gospel, ELECT is always used by God to refer to those who are chosen by him to receive the promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Unbelievers are never referred to as elect (chosen) of God. Paul makes this perfectly clear

What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded Romans 11:7
 
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Let me paraphrase what Paul is saying:

Concerning the gospel, the part of natural Israel that doesn't believe the gospel are enemies of God through the gentiles who do believe the gospel; but the remnant of Israelites who believe the gospel are beloved by God through the promises made to the fathers.

You're not making a distinction between those who believe the gospel (the remnant) and those who do not believe the gospel (the partial hardening), which distinction Paul takes pains to make throughout Romans 9-11
Its talking about the same group of people, the same people who are enemies are also beloved due to election.

It would be very strange and unnatural reading of the text to suggest its talking about two different people in the same sentence using "they". Look at the context

Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

I dont see the two groups in that sentence. There are plenty of chosen and unsaved people in the bible, I dont know why you cant see it that way. Most of Israel perished in the OT, yet were "elect". Saul was elect to be king, yet failed miserably.
 
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Israel is not blessed, a Godly nation, or a friend of America if you want to talk about modern behavior.

That's what all the racist Jew haters keep saying.

There is not one single "Godly nation" in modern times especially the US.

The perversion in the US would make Sodom and Gomorrah blush, so it's not about Israel being a "Godly nation"

I'd explain how God stands by His promises to Abraham but you wouldn't understand

The reprobates having been blinded with racism towards the Jews coupled with acute TDS are not worth spending time on
 
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Its talking about the same group of people, the same people who are enemies are also beloved due to election.

It would be very strange and unnatural reading of the text to suggest its talking about two different people in the same sentence using "they". Look at the context

Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

I dont see the two groups in that sentence. There are plenty of chosen and unsaved people in the bible, I dont know why you cant see it that way. Most of Israel perished in the OT, yet were "elect". Saul was elect to be king, yet failed miserably.

The same group of people is natural Israel. He makes clear in another verse that not all of them of (natural) Israel are (actually) Israel. The non-believing part are imposters; they are not the people of God though they may have been associated with them for a time. There is the election that believes and the "rejection" that doesn't believe.

Israel itself was chosen and saved out of Egypt, but the part that disbelieved was afterwards destroyed. So they were not the elect that inherited the promised land; only the elect who were faithful inherited the land.

Saul was chosen, but was rejected because of disobedience. So he may have been elect for a time, but he was not the true elect of God as David was.

Paul makes the same distinction throughout Romans 9-11. I challenge you to find one verse in which he does not.