Which view do you hold?

[frederickdoc]

I see what you are saying, so using your logic and reasoning, that would mean Hitler and all like him will be given eternal life and be in God's kingdom.

do you suppose pedophiles that raped to death little babies are forgiven and are saved and will be in the first resurrection as well?

If as you say all their sins are paid for by Christ death then they should be in the first resurrection,
are there any other requirements?

To finish only can't forgive is Dont do it . "blaspheme the Holy Spirit ".many are on that edge & even claim his name with many others supporting . so beware

 

[frederickdoc]

To finish only can't forgive is Dont do it . "blaspheme the Holy Spirit ".many are on that edge & even claim his name with many others supporting . so beware

 

[sawdust]

I see what you are saying, so using your logic and reasoning, that would mean Hitler and all like him will be given eternal life and be in God's kingdom.

What part of "believing in Christ, specifically the Gospel" do you not comprehend? Or do you simply not understand what it means to believe in something or someone?

No, you do not see a thing of what I'm saying as you are too filled with your own notions.

Have a nice day.

 

[frederickdoc]

What part of "believing in Christ, specifically the Gospel" do you not comprehend? Or do you simply not understand what it means to believe in something or someone?

No, you do not see a thing of what I'm saying as you are too filled with your own notions.

Have a nice day.

If I forget you I lost nothing but if u forget Christ everythingbis lost

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

i believe the moment Jesus died on the cross is the event in which sins are forgiven. i never read anything in the Bible that says otherwise. i didn't look it up either.

So everyone is forgiven in the whole world and saved even if they don't want to follow God, even if they don't want to stop sinning?

 

[frederickdoc]

So everyone is forgiven in the whole world and saved even if they don't want to follow God, even if they don't want to stop sinning?

So everyone can be forgiven in the whole world and saved when they accept the covenant ,repent forsaken sin Jesus command spake Receive the Holy Spirit. & Go on follow God Word .

 

[frederickdoc]

• Jesus is quoting Deuteronomy 6:16, which refers to an incident where the Israelites "tempted" (tested) God at Massah by demanding water and questioning if He was truly with them.
• The Point: By saying this, Jesus explains that while God promises protection (as seen in Psalm 91), it is a sin to intentionally put oneself in danger just to "force" God to perform a miracle.
• The Word "Again": By saying "It is written again," Jesus demonstrates that one piece of Scripture must be understood in harmony with the rest of the Bible; you cannot use one verse to justify breaking another commandment.

 

[memberofthebride]

What part of "believing in Christ, specifically the Gospel" do you not comprehend? Or do you simply not understand what it means to believe in something or someone?

No, you do not see a thing of what I'm saying as you are too filled with your own notions.

Have a nice day.

I not only believe in Christ, I obey Him, I DO what HE commands, Christ is my Master and Lord.
46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
believing must come first,, then action is required --- DOING

 

[Karlon]

So everyone is forgiven in the whole world and saved even if they don't want to follow God, even if they don't want to stop sinning?

no! remember John 9:31- "now we know that God hearth NOT sinners, but if any man be a worshipper of God & doeth His will, him, He heareth"! the sins of Christians, believers, in other words.

 

[sawdust]

I not only believe in Christ, I obey Him, I DO what HE commands, Christ is my Master and Lord.
46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
believing must come first,, then action is required --- DOING

If you recognise one must believe, why say what you said? It sounds like you just want to argue for the sake of arguing without any foundation of proof what I said was incorrect.

If a person doesn't do what they believe then they are kidding themself they believe what they say. Genuine belief results in action.

I'm left without a clue as to what you think I said that is incorrect. Show me the error or stop attacking your own imagination.

 

[Blade]

yes I do!

I will let Jesus Christ explain this to you

1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?

3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?

5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Twice -- if you do not repent of your sins you will never be give the gift of Eternal life -- God will have not one in HIS Family that sins --none !!
"Repentance is a sincere, inward change of mind and heart (nature) involving contrition for past sins and a commitment to turn away from wrongdoing toward a righteous life. It is a multi-stage process involving recognizing wrongdoing, feeling godly sorrow, confessing, abandoning sin, making restitution, and pursuing obedience.
Perish:
Lexical Summary

apollumi: To destroy, to perish, to lose​

Original Word: ἀπόλλυμι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: apollumi
Pronunciation: ä-pŏl'-lü-mē
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ol'-loo-mee)
KJV: destroy, die, lose, mar, perish
NASB: destroy, lost, perish, lose, destroyed, loses, perishing
Word Origin: [from G575 (ἀπό - since) and the base of G3639 (ὄλεθρος - destruction)]

He acted as a substitute, bearing the penalty and judgment for humanity's sins, not that He committed sin. You posted the answer yet you can not see it. "except you repent" why should they repent? "Jesus tells the crowd in that verse you posted.. that tragedy victims were not worse sinners than others, stressing that everyone needs to repent". "twice if you do not repent of your sins".

Christ had no sin. He didn't become a sinner but a? Substitute... 2 Cor 5:21.

 

[memberofthebride]

If you recognise one must believe, why say what you said? It sounds like you just want to argue for the sake of arguing without any foundation of proof what I said was incorrect.

If a person doesn't do what they believe then they are kidding themself they believe what they say. Genuine belief results in action.

I'm left without a clue as to what you think I said that is incorrect. Show me the error or stop attacking your own imagination.

At this point I can not remember what your point was.

 

[Magenta]

Lord of All

 

[sawdust]

At this point I can not remember what your point was.

Honestly, I question you ever did know my point.

 

[memberofthebride]

Honestly, I question you ever did know my point.

well that happen some times especially when you are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.

 

[sawdust]

well that happen some times especially when you are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.

I will pray for your blindness.

May the Lord bless and keep you.

 

[frederickdoc]

Was sin forgiven the moment Christ died on the cross, or was it after he was raised on the third day? I've seen scripture supporting both sides of this argument.

So Jesus washEd the feet of The Cleaned apostles. Making sure they knew they were clean Whole. Jesus already had the authority seen few time lady a well all the miracles

Was sin forgiven the moment Christ died on the cross, or was it after he was raised on the third day? I've seen scripture supporting both sides of this argument.

So Jesus washEd the feet of The Cleaned apostles. Making sure they knew they were clean Whole. Jesus already had the authority ,seen a few time like the lady at well + all the miracles . translation may be a part of the old to new covenant.
now saying Christ died witch means Anointed I can't understand that saying hasn't been removed from Christian tongues. The anointing is the Holy Spirit so why say anointing died. Just say Jesus son of man died Jesus Lord likes the term anyway .
pretty sure he mentions it in rev 22.But know that the only Jesus I have know is Son of man Glorified Lord God by Parah .
I never call him Christ that is his title walking flesh and blood. I don't think you hear Jesus call himself Christ I can't imagine that in the Bible it's always IAm rev22 Then Paul heard I Am Jesus The Christ I do know is the Holy Spirit in me that the anointing RUACH

 

[God-fearing]

Was sin forgiven the moment Christ died on the cross, or was it after he was raised on the third day? I've seen scripture supporting both sides of this argument.

Neither Jesus had the power and authority to forgive sin while he walked the earth.

Luk 19:8 And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.

Luk 19:9 And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.

Luk 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Jesus said to the adulteress...neither do I judge you ...go and sin no more.

Speaking to the pharisees jesus said....which is easier to heal or forgive sin?

 

[CS1]

Was sin forgiven the moment Christ died on the cross, or was it after he was raised on the third day? I've seen scripture supporting both sides of this argument.

at the moment he said " It is Finished." and gave up the Spirit John 19:30