Revolution in Iran

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ZNP said:
No, with actual real signs. Israel returning to the land of Israel is a real sign. The atomic bomb, the computer age, satellite communication, the increase in the spread of the gospel, the printing press, radio, tv, and the internet as well as AI, the Psalm 83 war we just witnessed, the Jeremiah 49 prophecy about breaking the bow of Elam we just witnessed, it is very hard to even keep track of all the actual signs we have been given. 1917 Balfour declaration, 50 years later Israel gets control of Jerusalem in 1967 and 50 years later the US and two other nations declare that Jerusalem belongs to Israel. These are all signs that those years were the year of jubilee when you are to declare that Jerusalem belongs to God and His people. Then of course you have the world wars, and the rise of the CIA and intelligence agencies which Jesus warned about in Matthew 24 with deception growing worse and worse. Now with deep fakes no one knows what to believe, which is what was also prophesied, the great deception. This is only a sampling, there are many more prophecies that can be included. For example the Plandemic which is clearly prophesied in Joel as a sign of what takes place immediately before the tribulation period begins.
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As you have alluded to, it is entirely plausible to consider that there are MANY more nuanced prophetic realizations in play at this "end of the Church age" countdown of the last few generations.

More than most people think. Including myself.
 
cv5 said:
As you have alluded to, it is entirely plausible to consider that there are MANY more nuanced prophetic realizations in play at this "end of the Church age" countdown of the last few generations.

More than most people think. Including myself.
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Sure, just think of the prophecy of the Popes as a prime example.
 
cv5 said:
But of course, these crucial and pertinent geopolitical developments are apparent ONLY to those who CHOOSE to follow the COMMAND to be mindful, and in good conscience WATCH.
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Who set their minds on earthly things, whose end is destruction. Whether that means of temporal things , of heavenly rewards or of eternal life is something God will decide according to his will and purposes.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Who set their minds on earthly things, whose end is destruction. Whether that means of temporal things , of heavenly rewards or of eternal life is something God will decide according to his will and purposes.
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Since when is He that is able to redeem and save Naomi/Gomer/the Nation Israel not heaven sent?

And no, you have never addressed these intended prophetic types.
Nor any of the other multitude prophet types so far cited.

Why? Because to the replacement theology crew, the topic of the redemption of Israel is anathema.
 
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cv5 said:
That in-depth study is probably more than this thread can bear.

But to be brief and to the point: they are but ONE contingent of those who are "blessed" because they "made it" and are invitees to the WEDDING SUPPER.

Dan 12:12
Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
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So Jesus returns on Dan 12:12 AFTER the 1260 days? The extra days are there for what reason do we know?
 
Slimsumo said:
So Jesus returns on Dan 12:12 AFTER the 1260 days? The extra days are there for what reason do we know?
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The conjectures are speculative, but sensible.
Just call it a post-Second Coming juncture for cleaning house and arranging the furniture.
 
cv5 said:
Oh so the mud flood Tartaria conspiracy rubbish is a foundational aspect of your "Christian" "theories" I see.

To each his own I guess.....:LOL:
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The tartaria crowd is big into questioning any and all recorded history, everything has been tampered with. Yet they trust the Bible? That is the next step on that heretical road, to get people thinking "what if they changed the Bible too?" and soon you are in new age lala-land.

The tartaria conspiracy claims the resurrection is already past, and therefore is overthrowing the faith of some as the Bible says.
 
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Slimsumo said:
The tartaria crowd is big into questioning any and all recorded history, everything has been tampered with. Yet they trust the Bible? That is the next step on that heretical road, to get people thinking "what if they changed the Bible too?" and soon you are in new age lala-land.

The tartaria conspiracy claims the resurrection is already past, and therefore is overthrowing the faith of some as the Bible says.
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You give them way too much credit, they've never read the Bible that's pretty obvious.
 
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cv5 said:
As you have alluded to, it is entirely plausible to consider that there are MANY more nuanced prophetic realizations in play at this "end of the Church age" countdown of the last few generations.

More than most people think. Including myself.
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Prophetic Warning: 9 Predictions From the 1800s Happening Today! @PerryStoneMinistries​


These nine points were reported in a NY newspaper after the Civil War

1. There will be internal fighting among families as predicted by Christ in the New Testament.
2. There will not be one big war but fighting spreading out to states, cities and neighborhoods in America
3. A secret band will sap the life out of America
4. The sea will heave beyond its bounds (Tsunamis and numerous earthquakes)
5. Mobs will roam the cities looking for food and money and will destroy anyone opposing them (we have flash mobs)
6. The "indians" south of the border in Mexico will raise up and challenge America (the border crisis)
7. The government will abuse the constitution, go into severe debt and politicians will flee for their safety
8. Manufacturing will cease for a time and even farmers will allow land to be unfarmed (the cost for running their business made it impossible for them to continue)
9. Internal fighting will cause the collapse of the State and Federal government
 
Slimsumo said:
But the Bible is full of redemption passages of Israel.
How much sense would it make to scatter one people and gather another?
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Like what? Give me some examples. Like all Israel being saved out of Egypt, but then all of those that disbelieved were destroyed and didn't inherit the promised land? Redeemed from Babylon? Only a small remnant was.

What sense does it make to persist in indulging an unbelieving nation that thinks it's entitled to the blessings of God. God said enough and went into all of the world to find believers to fill up the fullness that he promised to Abraham. Remember the parable of the wedding feast?
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Like what? Give me some examples. Like all Israel being saved out of Egypt, but then all of those that disbelieved were destroyed and didn't inherit the promised land? Redeemed from Babylon? Only a small remnant was.

What sense does it make to persist in indulging an unbelieving nation that thinks it's entitled to the blessings of God. God said enough and went into all of the world to find believers to fill up the fullness that he promised to Abraham. Remember the parable of the wedding feast?
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Isaiah 60-62. Zechariah 12-14, Matthew 23:39, Romans 11:25-28 (we already discussed this and disagreed on who is spoken of but my view was that since this group is an enemy of the Gospel it is unbelieving Jews who will be saved), Ezekiel 40-48

You pretty much cant read the Bible without running into them, all over the place.

I don't think anyone here is going to debate you on the fact that the jews today are indeed sinners and against Christ. YET, as Romans 11:28 says, they are enemies of the gospel YET STILL beloved for the fathers sake and God will bring His promises to them to pass.
 
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