Discovery

yaright · Jul 17, 2011

Discovery
"Anyone like to share what God's been doing in their life? Or maybe you know about God's moving in someone else's life that just brings you joy and a smile? I want to hear.[/quote]

Hi Rissa, after reading your post I felt compelled to say that I write from the heart a witness that even in the lowest point in our lives there is hope...

Your request doesn't seem to be of failed moments in our lives. Discovery is one of the most revealing elements of life; so I'd like to share a story about a fish that might impact your life concerning who we are and why we are that way in God's sight. Here is one facet of a large treasure discovered not all that long ago....

This is a Story About Fish Of The Sea

I would like to share a story of a fish who speaks of the work done by God's hand (Job 12; 8-10)
Did you know the symbol of the biblical fish has a hidden meaning? Many Christians call this symbol a Jesus fish, but far too many do not know how to apply this personally to their own lives. Have you heard the expression, "Don't go there!" Well, by my own choices to sin, I "went there". I did not know of this wisdom which is hidden in plain sight until my own salvation and the beginning of my walk with Jesus. A Prophet named Habakkuk asked God, "Why do You make men like fish of the sea; like creatures who wander as if they have no ruler over them?" These are the lost; strangers to God's temple whom Jesus spoke of when He said,
"Follow Me and I will make you fishers of men."
This is a fish story because it is a 'fish' who is giving witness of the things God has done by His own hand (Habakkul 1;14). These are strangers to God's temple, the lost Jesus spoke of. In our sin, we wandered as if we had no ruler over us. But when the Word of God was received, and we repented; this story is very personal. This wisdom reveals sin was not simply a moment in my life; It was a way of life altogether until with my own mouth I repented and began to follow The Word of God. New Testament parable language given of the fish is shown on two plains.

One is;..... "fishers of men.”

These are disciples Jesus is teaching;

And......... "men like fish of the sea”

whom our Lord Jesus is teaching His disciples how to catch.

The very nature of a fisherman reveals a man who gives his life with all hope and anticipation for the catch of the day. If you have wanted to catch fish, you know of this nature. When a fisherman takes a fish out of the water (this is a personal inflection); what happens to the fish? Ponder these things God our Father put before us to give witness of the things He has done in our lives by His own hand. These are two biblical perspectives hidden from plain sight, and called parable language, a sign for those who walk in the Light of Christ. We need to see this from two perspectives to understand what is hidden in plain sight.

“fishers of men”

“men like ( put the symbol of the Christian fish here) of the sea”

The personal understanding of an image of the Christian fish is more than just a

“A Line Drawn In The Sand”

This is the fulfillment of words of the prophets; and the fulfillment of Law follows closely after this, concerning you and the coin in the fish's mouth. There is much more, but if you understand this, you have in your heart God’s desire for you from the beginning.

yaright · Jul 25, 2011

Considering words of the prophets is necessary on a personal plain, to examine who we are and why we are that way in God's sight. In this instance, it was not until I saw myself wearing the shoes of a stranger to God's temple; being called in by the Word of God, that the understanding of an Old Testament law was opened up to me concerning the coin in the fish's mouth. It is an awesome thing to beable to see this come together on a personal plain. Some are able to see this. Those who cannot see this are no less a brother or sister or neighbor to me.

The Fulfillment of Old Testament Law; The Coin of Two Parts

In Old Testament language a Law was given by Moses concerning those called from the ways of the world by the Word of God to come and be counted in the census of our Lord's people. After this is done each person 20 years of age and older is to give a half shekel according to the (whole) shekel of the sanctuary. Exodus 30;11-16.

Jesus (examine closely), our King, our High Priest, revealed the work of a king and the
priesthood, and the meaning of a coin of two parts when He spoke (Matthew 17;24-27),
and asked Peter, "What do you think Simon? From whom do the kings of the earth
take tribute or taxes, from their sons or from strangers? Peter answered and said,
"Strangers." Jesus said to him, 'Then the sons are free. Never-the-Iess, lest we offend
them (temple priests), go to the sea, cast in a hook, and take the fish that comes up first. And when you have opened its mouth, you will find a coin; take that and give it to them-

...................................................... For Me and For you . .................................................
............................... For Me (half a Shekel) and for you (half a shekel)...........................
................................According to the (whole) shekel of the sanctuary.................................
These two parts are the value of the coin given and belonging to His Temple as a witness, a memorial of the things our Lord has done in each of us. Even though these things had already been fulfilled (being counted in the census) when we heard the calling of the Word of God, repented, and in our faith follow in the teaching given to us from Jesus; He reveals what had taken place according to the fulfillment of Law in the parable language of His life. Every step Jesus takes with us as we follow Him by faith; All the things He said to us as we walk with Him by faith; Jesus said He did not come to destroy the Law, but to fulfill the Law. These things are important because they reveal who we are and why we are that way in God's sight; And how God loves us so much He gave His only begotten Son, that who-so-ever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. The atonement money is a required tribute to a King and High Priest of the Temple. “The rich shall not give more and the poor shall not give less than half a shekel.” The atonement is a witness which speaks of two lives according to the things God has done by His own hand. “According to the shekel of the sanctuary.” This tribute money comes after being counted into the census of God’s people, and is required of all who are strangers to His Temple. When these things are done, we are His; sons and daughters of the Living God we call Father. Afterward, we are no longer considered strangers to His Temple because this Law was fulfilled by Jesus. This language speaks directly, and personally to each of us. This is why, from one generation to the next, the Word of God is consistent; “Not one jot or tittle of the law will pass until it is fulfilled.” It is not until the Law is fulfilled in us, that we are no longer under the burden of the Law.

Ramon · Jul 26, 2011

My friend, I look forward to sharing with you many of the things I have been waiting to share. The Lord is so awesome. At this time, I need a friend like you.

May Jesus bless you.

yaright · Aug 2, 2011

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Re: A Woman's Role in the Church
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth619
I'm sure that some think I should have put this in the Ladies forum's and I KNOW this thread has been done before....but I wanted to see what the men have to say about it.
Woman bad. Man good.

I'll respond with all due respect, concerning who we are and why we are that way in God's sight. This is a witness shared between me and a woman on another Christian chat site. The letter 'L' is my writing, that the letter 'K' is her writing. When the Spirit revealed what part I took in Christ's life, my jaw dropped. It was a life altering experience that taught me that I am nothing without Christ.

In The Face of His Truth

Who am I? And Why Am I That Way In God’s Sight?
In a one man cell (prison), having been set apart and no one to call out to but God, in tears I asked Him to forgive me, and to teach me the things I couldn't possibly know without Him. *Immediately, I was drawn into a vision so complete that *I did not know whether I was in prison; or some place else that can be described as a desolate plain; a desert where nothing grew and there was no sign of life. *Off in the distance a bolt of lightening struck the earth; A cloud formed and began to roll towards me (sent) like a river. *In a space of time too short to measure, the cloud passed into me with a power of knowledge so great that every cell of my body immediately recognized Him. I have never experienced anything like these Words that actually lived and worked as they were given. *Not as one strand of thought that comes from*the mouth of one man; but as 10,000 strands of knowledge that began to search every part of me. *This power was more than I could bear. I jumped up and pleaded with Him to stop, and to teach me as I am able. *As the last words came out of my mouth, the ground work was set. *I knew Him by His power, and I knew by the power of wisdom I was no more than a child in His sight. *From that moment, every day He began to teach the things I couldn't possibly known without HIm.
For many years of my life I considered truth as being a variable that depends on each person’s life experiences. It is called ‘common sense’. Until the Day I received the Holy Spirit, I did not know of another plane of wisdom holding to unchangeable absolutes which challenges each of us who desire to understand who we are and why we are that way in God’s sight. Our Father in Heaven fashioned all of creation by His high standard of absolutes. This reference to images is not what a man gathers with a camera; But Creation itself is a language of images seen and experienced (“according to each kind”) that continually speaks of the Kingdom of Heaven and the things God our Father has done by His own hand. What I am sharing is difficult at best to see naturally; And yet for Christians not to see this is a living deception hidden by the things that seem right to each of us.

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In The Face Of His Truth

Isaiah 28;15
Because you have said, “We have made a covenant with death, And with Sheol we are in agreement. When the overflowing scourge passes through, *It will not come to us, *For we have made lies our refuge, *And under falsehood we have hidden ourselves.”

L
Every person has sinned against God; because for a season we believed we could be alone (hidden) in our thoughts and deeds. In my own sin, I believed Truth could not see.

As Jesus was about to be crucified, the soldiers of this world covered the face of His Truth, mocked Truth, struck the face of Truth, spitting in the face of Truth; believing they could be alone in their sin, saying with all arrogance of sin,

“Prophesy who is doing this to You.”

Even though as a child I heard witness of God’s love for me, when I came of age I took my inheritance and turned away from our Father in heaven. I became joined as a citizen of the land of the dead; defending sin even as a soldier defends his own country. The life-language of this reveals a season of the ways of sin. While walking in the ways of this world I literally chose sin, and with all arrogance of sin I believed I could be hidden even from (the face of) Truth.
K
It crossed my mind recently that You asked God to teach you the things that you "could not possibly know without Him.”* It occurred to me that such a request would surely bring to a person...,knowledge of things that man cannot possibly know unless God opened them, of course!**Oh my, how we struggle along because we don't do the simplest thing, ask!* "Ask, that your Joy may be full."*
L
My life became a bitter example of sin; On two opposing planes sin always increased (became increasingly evident) whether revealed by the Light of Truth, or kept hidden in darkness.* This is Truth; A man has to live life according to the things that seem right to him to see these things that are part of the great deception which verifies the words Jesus spoke; “Satan was a murderer from the beginning,”*for God made each of us with a nature that does according to the things that seem right to us. It is this basic nature in us that Satan deceived. In the language of the Ancients, “The serpent is more cunning than any beast of the field.” Satan is more cunning than any man who lives according to the flesh (beast of the field). The Spirit taught me; “How is it you believe you can be alone, as if you have no ruler over you?” I am attempting to reveal a flaw in a way of life, because being alone is the reasoning of a man or woman; and the deception is that profound. The process of justifying being alone, or being alone with someone is the beginnings of that deceptive process. The process of temptation plays with the pleasure centers of the mind in all levels (Genesis 3;6).
K
I thought...wow, what a*"Large" example life does become to others of this thing called sin!* And I thought, look at the price of "Death" that is paid to become an Example to man of this thing called sin...which is no less an enemy to any other person than it was to you!* What a price...and yet what a powerful example, and not only of sin...but of a "Grace" that is far more Powerful than sin!** That is more of a marvel than the marvel of the power of sin amen.

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In The Face Of His Truth
L
Yes! Our Heavenly Father loved me more than I hated myself. The Prophet Isaiah spoke of God’s calling; That by the hearing of the Word, and the direction faith took me, became the annulment of a covenant I’d made with death.
K
There are some Christians who say*we are not supposed to be personal with other people, and there is another school of thought that says there is purpose in sharing openly the testimonies of our life experiences.*
L
It is written that we are to speak of our sins with one another. How else could the work of Salvation be known? How could I be encouraged if I find myself believing somehow that I am the only one on this earth who suffered a life of sin? So I give witness as Jonah gave witness with understanding concerning God’s wrath and the bitterness of sin shown in the nature of a man who wanders as if there is no ruler over him.
The Light (His Truth) revealed Satan’s great temptation atop the temple of Jerusalem and the kingdom that is hidden in the darkness of the ways of this world; The very image of the temple within which Jesus said to cast down. The very same kingdom (land of the dead) I personally accepted in sin. The same temple built of lifeless stones (people) Satan offered Jesus to rule over. Jesus turned away Satan’s temptations with Truth just before He began His ministry. How destructive the things that are hidden by the things that seem right to us. Ask the Prophet Jonah. Ask that man on his knees, pleading with God to forgive his sins....,ask a Pharisee who looked on and said in his heart, “Lord, I am glad I am not like him.” All will suffer the imprisonment of sin and the governing force of shame. I have as carefully as possible given witness of how I came to this point in my life. I do this so that it can be clearly understood I am nobody without our Lord’s mercy.
K
Do you feel and have you felt over time that not just you, but God desires for you to reach out in a greater way than in the random individual way you have?*
L
More often than before, I give witness to the heads of churches in the same manner I give witness in the street. By this, my hope is that many more might hear these hidden things that reveal who we are and why we are that way in God’s sight. I don’t believe my work is random. It has a direction of beginnings.

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yaright · Aug 8, 2011

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I noticed a Christian was upset with the doctrines of the Roman Catholic church. The point of contention seems to stir up meaningless dialogue that has deceived so many on both sides of the argument. The reason it is meaningless has to do with what should be a personal connection between Jesus and all who have repented of their sins, and follow Jesus on a path of teaching He has set out before us. This, is a personal thing. There are no religions of men that own this understanding Jesus gives to each of us on a personal level, concerning those who ask Him! There is a type of belief that a man’s religion can exclusively own Christ’s Church. Because I do not believe in lifting up the religions of men, I personally give witness of the things Jesus teaches me. In the following, look for a personal witness of a relationship with Jesus.......

 Re: The Myth of the Roman "Catholic" Church
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotth1960
"It is DAMNABLE heresy to teach that Jesus went to HELL or that the Holy Spirit proceedeth from the Father and the Son.

"The Latin Church cannot be Catholic or UNIVERSAL because HERESY would be universal. ...If heresy was universal, this would make void the promise of Jesus that the gates of Hades would not prevail against His Congregation:
Matthew 16:16-18 NKJV Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon bar Jonah, for flesh and blood have not revealed this to you, but My Father Who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it."
"The Christian Congregation is built upon Christ the ROCK ... not Peter the STONE:
John 1:42 NKJV "Now when Jesus looked at him, He said, "You are Simon the son of Jonah. You shall be called Cephas (which is translated. A Stone)."

yaright
If you contend with others over denying the Word of God as being heresy, than listen carefully..
I hope you don't mind my expanding on your understanding of a church built on a rock. In your argument, you need to back up three more verses in order to see the witness of three parts; How they were formed; And Who formed them this way. In the beginning of this parable teaching, it is revealed that a man cannot see what God does not show him on a spiritual plain. In a conversation ON A PERSONAL level; Peter proclaimed that Jesus is the Christ, Son of the living God. At this point Jesus revealed through Peter, one part of that rock (Jesus). This is where certain religions stopped and totally misled millions concerning what that rock was. Jesus reveals three parts that become this rock upon which Jesus builds His Church of living stones; But He gave this on a very personal level concerning each one of us. After Peter spoke of the One part; Jesus then spoke of three parts when He said flesh and blood did not reveal this to you. Jesus spoke of His Father as being the One who revealed this to Peter. Now we have two parts of the Rock. Then Jesus gave witness to Peter,

“I also say to you that you are Peter (the third part), and on this Rock I will build My Church. And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” This is a three part covenant relationship between our Father in Heaven, Jesus and you (speaking on a personal level). That covenant relationship cannot be broken, even by Satan. If you read a few more verses to vs 23, you will see how Satan did indeed attempt to break that covenant of three parts by using the weak part of that covenant (Peter), which can be found in each of us. But because there are three parts spoken of in this parable, no matter how weak we are in understanding, the covenant remains intact; Christ’s Church built upon an unmovable Rock, which the gates of hell cannot prevail against. All these things took place to show us the power of that covenant relationship which cannot be broken.

Jesus uses another parable language to reveal this power of the foundation of His Church. (John 10;22 thru 30)

Jesus answered the unbelieving Jews, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; And no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”

One of the key elements of the parable of Christ’s Church built upon the Rock is over-looked; Satan did indeed attempt to cause Christ's Church to fail at the weakest part (Peter). But because that foundation has the strength of three specific parts,

'THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.'

Thank you for bringing this to the table!

JesusScotth1960 continued;
Dear yaright, Which of the Church Fathers said anything about the three parts teaching you speculated about above? I don't understand what you are saying? What is the consensus Patrum (the consensus of the Fathers)? Did any of them, or all of them, agree with your teaching above? God bless you. In Erie PA August 2011 AD Scott R.

yaright
What I shared is a specific truth. I'm sorry to hear that the concensus Patrum saw no personal connection; even though Peter personally denied the Word of God, which Jesus gave for us to see on a personal plain. What Jesus spoke in Matthew 16;21 is God's Word, and in verse 16;22 Peter denied the Word of God. If you are willing to reconsider how the foundation of Christ’s Church was formed; seeing that Peter denied the Word of God from the beginning of the our Lord’s Church; I'd like to hear what you have to say. But if you do not mention the personal connection, what point do you have even speaking on it? The witness of Our Lord’s promise to His followers can be found in this parable, and our Lord’s promise is also given in John 10;22 thru 30. If you do not see the personal connection, of which we are a part of concerning living stones; in whom the covenant of three parts are spoken of in both parable languages...

(This is personal to me) If I make a choice according to my love for Jesus, and I do not hear or understand the Word of God (like Peter); you can be sure that I have Jesus and His Father who will not let me fail, even tho like Peter, I might deny the Word of God, and not know I’d done this at the moment. Think about this! All Christians are learning! None have all the Truth, none know all things. Because of this it has become evident that all Christian religions condemn each other with heresy? Only because they do not understand the three fold covenant? I trust Jesus, who is the Christ, Son of the living God. And the ONLY ONE who revealed Jesus to me, is God, our Father who is in Heaven. Flesh and blood did not reveal Jesus to me. If it were not for these three parts, I would not be standing on a foundation which cannot be broken by anyone, not even Satan. If you'd rather me post this some other place in the Christian Chat, I'd be glad to because I know that anyone who carefully considers this will know I am telling the truth.

yaright · Aug 29, 2011

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 A subtle difference between prophecy and law

I would like to share with you something that's been a puzzle among Christians.

There is a New Testament language concerning donkey's which Jesus said in one parable to 'loose them' the foal and the donkey

and He rode them into Jerusalem and gave His life.

In another New Testament language, Jesus asked for the foal of the donkey, and He rode the foal into Jerusalem and gave His life.

They are both worded correctly;

One is the fulfillment of prophecy

The other is the fulfillment of law

Both parables apply to each of us on a personal level.

I know what they mean...
but I am learning how to express it

There are two parts to each of us: That which is flesh, and that which is spirit. One is temporary, the other is eternal.

Some say the Hebrew language is translated. Some say problems come in the way it is interpreted.

What many do not know; The Hebrew language and culture continually and completely use the things we can see (natures of creation 'according to each kind') which speak of things we cannot see according to the things which seem right to us. The evidence of this can be found in many ways; but none more stark than when Jesus said, "If you say you can see, you remain in your sin." In other words, these things need to be revealed.

The sacrifice of a lamb; most Christians understand as the sacrifice of God's Son. The phrase, 'sacrifice of a lamb' is found in biblical Egypt, the Book of the Priesthood, the Book of Laws; And words of the prophets which spoke of the carelessness in the way these things were done;

And the New Testament,

Which revealed the spiritual meaning of the the Last Supper in our own personal land of sin (our Egypt). A land of the dead, where there was no inheritance for the first born of those who live in sin. This was, and is, the purpose of the preparation of the Last Supper in a land of sin, just before the crossing over into the presence of God, who called us from that place we chose in sin.

 Re: A subtle difference between prophecy and law

The donkey and its first born (foal) are the least of the servants according to creation language. Who ever the rider is, is the teacher. Is it the reasoning of men who belong in the seat of authority? Jesus said to loose the foal upon which no man has sat (in the place of authority). Jesus then rode the foal of the donkey into Jerusalem, and gave His life. This is the fulfillment of law which lives even to this day, states; the sacrifice of a lamb to redeem the foal of a donkey. This language answers many questions on a personal level; especially when compared to the fulfillment of prophecy in a similar New Testament language.

Old Testament prophecy, which lives even to this day, states; The obedience of God's people is to fasten the donkey to the vine (the needs of the flesh); and the foal of the donkey to the Choice Vine (the needs of the spirit of a man). Both of these serve under the One who holds the scepter; the lion of Judah; a lion's whelp.

When Jesus asked for THEM (foal and the donkey), He is the the lion of Judah and a lion's whelp (the Son of); and He rode THEM into Jerusalem and gave His life. This is the obedience of His people; that both the flesh and the spirit of a man is under His authority. According to the obedience of His people, Jesus could not take one without taking the other into Jerusalem; He rode them.

But!

Law reveals only one part of you can be redeemed the (foal), the first born who belongs to Him. (loose the foal upon which no man sat)

This is creation language. Understanding comes by the teaching of natures found within.

This is why it is written; Jesus rode triumphantly into Jerusalem......, because He brought you with Him, and redeemed you with His blood.

yaright · Sep 16, 2011

Concerning the teaching of swine, I give personal testimony;
Deuteronomy 14;
You are the children of the Lord your God; (Matthew 18;3)  “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven."

“You shall not cut yourselves for the dead..”
(Mark 5;5) And always, night and day, he was in the mountains and in the tombs, crying out and cutting himself with stones.

(Deut. 14;8) “The swine is unclean to you, because it has cloven hooves, yet does not chew the cud; You shall not eat their flesh nor touch their dead carcasses......”

In Proverbs 11;22 "As a gold ring in a swine's snout.... There is a clear distinction between God’s purpose, and the nature of a creature who does not carefully consider (lacking discernment of God’s purpose) the Word of God as food for His people.

Mark 5;1 thru 20, Concerning law and words of the prophets: Both speak of a man’s nature who does not carefully consider God’s Word as food for the eternal soul of His people. Jesus revealed through parable creation language how this specific form of sin overcomes a man who does not carefully consider God’s will. This is the nature of a creature which is illegal for God’s people to partake of. But make note! Jesus reveals another facet of that law. That nature which does not carefully consider God’s Word is in fact a legal place for demons to enter into. This is what takes place within a man who has made himself a legal place for demons to enter. He does not casually walk towards his death That creature ran as if down a hill to it’s own death! Though it has cloven hooves, the direction the swine takes is according to the things that seem right to it.

All biblical language of the swine in both Old and New Testament speak from this same wisdom given by the hand of God. It is not until that creature nature is slain by the Word of God and tried by fire (the Holy Spirit) that a man is made clean. Evidence of this: “What I have made clean no man shall call unclean” and “rise Peter, kill and eat.” Jesus did not come to destroy the law; He came to fulfill the law. Concerning teaching of law in regards to the swine; Jesus reveals to us how it is possible by God’s will this law can be fulfilled in each of us from within.

Concerning specific creature natures in biblical language, this is similar understanding of a cloven hoof that measures (discernment) in the walk that;
does
or
does not
carefully consider God’s Word as food for the soul.

The creature nature that does not carefully consider its food (chew the cud) is not only written into law, Jesus reveals the intent of this law, andhow this law speaks of a demon like nature found in a possessed man who did not carefully consider the Word of God as food for his own soul; until in his suffering that man ran to Jesus to worship Him.

The teaching of the demon possessed man reveals why it is illegal for God’s people to partake of a creature nature that does not carefully consider its food. This specific nature is a legal place for demons to enter into; and speaks of the things that take place in a man when he does not carefully consider God’s Word as food for his own eternal soul.

Jesus brought evidence of the nature of a creature plagued by the affects of sin and joined that understanding with the creature nature of swine that does not carefully consider its food, and, why the Law was given to God’s people concerning the swine. But Jesus teaches how that man can be made clean.

yaright · Sep 20, 2011

*Feeding Bread And Fish To The Thousands
This is a letter given between two people concerning a spiritual matter; I am 'L'
L
I made note of something *concerning the bread Jesus fed to the thousands; enough was given for all to eat. What we do not comprehend until we see it in our own witness, that the food we offer in spiritual terms is not like bread we make with our own hands, with a leaven which gives very little increase; When it is eaten, there is no more; Or fish, when given according to the teaching (leaven) of men; there is no more. But in Christ who fed both bread and fish to thousands, there was far more than what was needed to feed the thousands. Jesus said He is the bread of life. Now, carefully xamine your own life language and see that those things which are of the Spirit in you, are not limited, but continually, abundantly give beyond what we give naturally. *When a fish is killed and tried by fire, it becomes food? The spiritual things I have shared with you were not limited, but after you partook of this spiritual food, there came from you even more; An abundance the flesh cannot perceive. *So allow me this moment to reacquaint you with the things I've shared with you, and examine closely to see if this bread and fish was of men, or of the Spirit.
K
"Now this leaven reminds me of the knowledge that attempts to exalt itself Above the knowledge of God that you know and have known...another truth that reveals what is really happening in the invisible.*** Anyway, I was able to write some things to John that even surprised me....I can usually write some inspiring things when I really feel a heart for what someone is struggling over, because I reach inside for heart of Spirit toward them....but this time was so special, for the things I was able to write, and John was*very encouraged then he told me...and came to peace again....
And it occurred to me that all these things you have helped me to see have given me so much more to be able to reach into someone else's heart with....and I didn't think you would mind if I took on that spirit and even some of the words you have by that spirit for the sake of someone else....and I thought again of how it has seemed to me before that maybe the knowledge yes...but also the spirit in another God imparts to you...and in this way the things God has himself given you do not end in you....or even in just the people you personally minister to.....but the very spirit in you is passed on...."
L
What you have given witness to opens parable language to you. *As you speak, don't you also learn so much more? *And when someone hears your witness, are they filled all that much more that they have in their hearts an abundance not limited by the reasoning of men? **Do you remember the teaching of the fish; a creature nature which you were as you wandered as if you had no master over you....

yaright · Sep 20, 2011

"I am like a green olive tree in the house of God. I trust in His mercy forever." Each tree has a specific nature and a specific purpose in biblical terms. The trees of the field are people who live in the ways of the world. The knowledge of trees will open understanding on a personal plain for those who desire it.

When the olive tree raised up in the ways of our Lord; From young to the days it begins to produce a full abundant harvest, is a covenant period of about forty years. Some who planted olive trees, did this for their children, knowing that in the parent’s life time, they likely would not see a full harvest from the trees they had planted. All these years the olive tree needs to be cared for, in a spiritual manner of the image of covenant period of learning in God's presence. The term “forty” (whether days or years) is a covenant period in a place separated from the ways of the world; not taking anything into account (of this world) according to the things that seem right to a man. This is called ‘fasting to our Lord’. After the first baptism according to the flesh, Jesus was moved by the Spirit to a (seemingly undesirable ‘place’ according to the flesh), a desolate place, where He fasted forty days. That covenant period is also a place of being tempted by Satan, having been removed from the ways of the world which the flesh desires, is a spiritual matter. Jesus did not partake of any desire that He was tempted with. Again, this is called fasting to the Lord. Afterward, it is said Jesus hungered. Most tend to miss this spiritual application. Jesus did not hunger for a sandwich, which some teach to this day. Jesus hungered to do His Father's will. It is at this moment that Jesus began His ministry. This is the long way to understanding the olive tree, but it is worth the time to carefully understand spiritual matters on a personal plain. The term 40 is about a covenant period set apart from the world; in the presence of God. This 'place' does seem desolate according to the things we had become used to in the flesh. This desolate place is within each of us as we were set apart to be shown the wisdom of God. I will give you an outward example of the inward experience. When Israel was called by God to follow Him out of the land of Egypt. a lamb or sheep had to be sacrificed and eaten in the last supper of the last day in that land of sin, before they crossed over into the presence and teaching of God in a seemingly desolate place (with God!). In this desolate place, Israel was being taught the ways of God; and at the same time they were tempted in their flesh. Does any of this sound familiar to you in the early part of your faith? These things needed to take place as a witness of the things which happened to you when God called you. In spiritual terms, the sacrifice of the lamb of God took place in our lives in the last meal of the last day we lived in a “place’ / land of sin. It was then we crossed over into a covenant period in the presence of God and we were surely tempted in this seemingly desolate land, saying “What is this place!” Some are so distraught in this experience, longing in their heart for the things they left behind; No different than Israel. To put it bluntly, this is the sin nature of all men. I've heard it preached concerning how wicked Israel was. That cannot be argued, but to think somehow that we are better would be a lie.

So now, back to the covenant period of carefully preparing the olive tree, whose very nature takes 40 years of grooming before it is prepared to have a nature over flowing of anointing oil. When Jesus went through the covenant period, after that was done, He began His ministry. He was then prepared, even as the olive tree is carefully prepared for God's purpose found in the The Olive Garden. This is where Jesus took His disciples to pray and sing praises to His Father in Heaven. This is the gathering of the anointed. There is more; When the olive tree is prepared, it brings the power of the anointing oil which is used for light, it is used for medicine, and it is used for food. All three of these are images of spiritual matters. What Jesus did when He began His ministry was bring light to where there was darkness, He healed the sick and became food for those who seek the Kingdom of Heaven. The caregiver is the husbandman who you have heard of. Jesus healed the nature of a man who was spiritually blind. But after that man was healed, Jesus asked him what he saw; And the man replied, “I see men like trees walking.”
When we look out at the world for signs, we are saying that we can see. Jesus said, "If you say you can see, you remain in your sin." Jesus is saying we are made blind by our sin. So when Jesus healed the eyes of the man, that man gave witness of spiritual things that cannot be seen according to the flesh. The olive tree is one of the trees walking in the nature of an anointed man. It’s an awesome experience for a person to be able to see the hidden language which takes place from within. What a powerful thing to experience a personal relationship that teaches us who we are and why we are that way in God’s sight! Look for the teaching of young olive trees around the table of our Lord, and tell me what you see.

Ramon · Sep 20, 2011

AMEN!!! WOW!! This says it all. When I woke up this was with me. I saw Jesus as the olive tree, but I also was reminded of the two olive trees that I believe Daniel saw.

At the same time, I see David also expressed it! I also saw myself as an olive tree, but really?

Now, today, I doubted, and I am thankful that the Lord gave you the confirmation that I did not go to say.

About Israel and the lamb and the eating.

Between you and I, did Israel eat the Passover lamb?

Also, I see that after the 40 days he hungered, but on the cross he thirsted.

Anyhow. May Jesus bless you.

yaright · Oct 3, 2011

Re: King James Bible vs. Modern Translations (Honoring The Deity of Jesus Christ)
I have come to understand that a person who is overtaken by the inward conviction of God's Truth, repents and begins to follow in the teaching of His Word; that all things great or small will be examined closely by the Spirit within; So that these things which are not perfect will fall under God's grace, which is sufficient. All Christian bibles have flaws; but the indwelling Spirit has a perfecting nature.

If we are personally tempted to raise ourselves above a brother or sister in Christ, over issues of imperfection, we have brought a disservice even to our own choice between imperfect bibles. The greater witness comes as we speak of these things that teach us who we are and why we are that way in God's sight.

So, if in the beginning of Christ's ministry, a person considers the Word. "Repent, pick up your cross and follow Me" All argument of imperfection will fall at the feet of Jesus in the time of His choosing. If a person understands this, than all creatures that follow Jesus will know that He is Sent; and all imperfection is under His authority.

yaright · Oct 20, 2011

Hi Ramon, I need to take the time to say hi and thank you for the encouraging words. They did not go unnoticed.

In spite of a sin nature, if you had the chance to share, what is the one thing that crosses your mind that you would like your friends and your community to know about your purpose in life today?

Everyone has a past, and there are many who wouldn't hesitate to gossip, attempting to dismantle the things a person does because of his or her faith. I love to reflect on a thought in times of troubling, "Put your hands on the plow, and do not look back." No matter how crooked the furrow a person has laid up to this point, there is nothing he or she can do to improve what is already done.

The most powerful gift a person has to share is the authenticated witness of having asked to be forgiven, and was set free from the burdens which held that person like chains anchored in the past.

Never give up. The ground you walk on in faith, is worth fighting for...

Ramon · Oct 21, 2011

yaright said:

AMEN!!

You know, if I saw it as a war, then it is much like fighting for ground. Whoever controls the most territory has the greater advantage, at least in the wars of men.

But even in the days of David, the ones who had the advantage were the ones that the Lord God protected and fought for.

Even when some of Israel went out to fight, if the Lord did not permit it, they were slaughtered, and lost ground.

Jesus owns the throne of David. His victory is final, and when we are with him, we have the advantage.

Even like David, when David had lost his own personal battle, straying away from the Lord to do his own will, he humbled himself, and beat his breast, and was in sackcloth and ashes before the Lord.

I really do believe that in beating his chest, he was trying to get at his soul, and in the sackcloth and ashes, he was trying to show how much of dust he is (how low he had been made).

This is a place of mourning I have been many times. As low as the dust, getting at my soul.

Or maybe he was judging his own heart, which is what anyone who has come to the Lord does constantly. I would rather be judged now than later. I would rather repent now, than later. Because then there will be no mercy.

David, when he had counted Israel, and was judged, said that he would rather be judged by God than to be subjected to the mercy of his enemies, which wasn't mercy. But he knew God would look on him again after he had judged him. WHAT FAITH!!

In the same way I say, LORD TRY MY REIGNS AND MY HEART!! TAKE OUT ANY INIQUITY THAT IS AN OFFENSE TO ME!!

May Jesus bless you.

yaright · Oct 21, 2011

Ramon said:

Thank you for taking this another step; and please allow this to continue further....

In the battle for our lives, we speak of spiritual matters which could not be known without the evidence of things that perish in this world.

I've been shown that in a state of being humbled, and that same person casting ashes on his own head, is a language that depicts the house that man built was consumed as if by fire. The house a man builds is all that seems right to him until the Day of Visitation (God's Truth). There is similar language given in the New Testament where the Apostle Paul spoke of the work of our Lord's followers are tested by fire (The Spirit of God's Truth). The things of God will not perish from the man; but the things which are consumed by fire are not of God and are removed from the man by His Truth. In this manner it is written that a man than is saved, even as if by fire. But as I've said before, as a follower, I've suffered to understand. Not as if our Lord is destroying me, but as a tree is pruned to produce a better yield, so too are the Old Testament words; "I am like an olive tree in the house of God. I trust in His mercy forever.

These are spiritual matters pertaining to a man's heart; Pertaining to the Kingdom of Heaven being built up within him.

"From now on let no one trouble me, for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus."

SandCrabby · Oct 21, 2011

that was talking about fruitfulness, and giving to and observing the hebrew faith, and being liable for it forever and the consequences otherwise .your following remarks make no sense at all. where did you get that from?
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Ramon · Oct 23, 2011

yaright said:

When a stranger tries to listen to a foreign language, it sounds like babel to him, simply because he does not speak that language. Although it makes perfect sense to those who understand the language.

You make the most sense than most people I know, as the Lord has revealed to us this precious language, that we are always learning about. A language that reveals to us the nature of God, and the nature of man, and the nature of His Christ Jesus, who brought about the means of salvation to the nature of man.

It is like water my friend. LOL!! It is like that oasis in a desert!! Water in a dry and thirsty land!

It is because of his mercy my friend that he tends to his vineyard. And he waits for the precious fruit of the earth!! HALLELUJAH!!

I do want to speak about the blood of Jesus Christ, but I will post it in new thread. May Jesus bless you.

yaright · Oct 23, 2011

Ramon said:

When a stranger tries to listen to a foreign language, it sounds like babel to him, simply because he does not speak that language. Although it makes perfect sense to those who understand the language.

You make the most sense than most people I know, as the Lord has revealed to us this precious language, that we are always learning about. A language that reveals to us the nature of God, and the nature of man, and the nature of His Christ Jesus, who brought about the means of salvation to the nature of man.

It is like water my friend. LOL!! It is like that oasis in a desert!! Water in a dry and thirsty land!

It is because of his mercy my friend that he tends to his vineyard. And he waits for the precious fruit of the earth!! HALLELUJAH!!

I do want to speak about the blood of Jesus Christ, but I will post it in new thread. May Jesus bless you.

What's really awesome about this post....
That we wouldn't have known there was an oasis if it weren't for the palm trees carved in the entry ways of the temple.

Ramon · Oct 23, 2011

yaright said:

Okay. I had to look this up too. AMAZING!!

1 Kings 6, and maybe more.

One more thing I saw when I looked it up is that Jericho was called the city of palm trees. And then later there was made a reference to the city of palm trees, but I would not have known that it was speaking of Jericho off hand.

We have spoken of the fowls of the air and the beasts that roam across the earth, and the fish of the sea. These things we understood, but there is more to it than that.

And we spoke of his revelation in the things that are made, being clearly seen.

But more than every, the revelation of cities, and kingdoms and kings, and princes, and nations and peoples. These things are very important also.

They reveal mysteries of the things NOT seen.

We heard this revelation in reference to Sodom and Gomorrah, which are spiritually called Sodom and Gomorrah. And of Israel and Jerusalem, even of Nineveh.

And very clearly in the life of David and of Joseph and Daniel. Kings, and kingdoms and nations and people.

But Jesus reveals these things to us. You and I both know that his authority is not just on earth, but in heaven also, over all powers and principalities, all kingdoms and all nations. He has dominion over it all!! The war we fight is not of flesh and blood like the wars of David's time, nor of Abraham's time.

I will post in another reply something I am reminded of.

Ramon · Oct 23, 2011

I don't know where it is, but it is the parable of the eagle that mounted atop a very high tree, and was lifted up, and the people took comfort in that tree, and in it's shade and its fruit,

I believe this was a message of the king of Babylon, which was cut down later because it was lifted up. But the eagle rested atop another tree.

This is not a message only of The King of Babylon, but of the nation of Babylon also.

I wonder if Babylon was a magnificent place. It might have been, even as great as Egypt. But although they were magnificent for the people of those nations, for Israel they were bondage.

The Lord has not yet revealed to me all about this, but maybe he will.

May Jesus bless you.

yaright · Oct 24, 2011

Ramon, friend in Christ; I've quoted someone's work on the internet. I know it's a bit long, but I'm asking you to take the time to consider this;

Was Nebuchadnezzar healing from his old ways, or was he insane? The person 'copied' the work of biblical scholars who did not know creation language. I know this because he mentioned Nebuchadnezzar as being insane for seven seasons after he was cut down by the Word of God. The Holy Spirit taught me concerning the beginnings of a nature of a creature that chews grass (hint) Chews the cud. I was also taught the meaning of the birds of the air by their various natures (according to each kind). Let me know what you see.

quote;
The Bible in Daniel chapter 4 states that Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, had a dream that troubled him. So he called in the prophet Daniel to interpret his dream. Daniel told him that the following would happen to the king because of his pride:
"This is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the Most High, which has come upon my lord the king: They shall drive you from men, your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make you eat grass like oxen . . . ,
and seven times (seasons) shall pass over you, till you know that the Most High
rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He chooses . . . your kingdom shall be returned to you, after you come to know that Heaven rules." Daniel 4:24-26

One year later as Nebuchadnezzar was walking about his royal palace the dream became reality:The Bible records in Daniel 4:30 that the king spoke with great pride saying: "Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for a royal dwelling by my
mighty power and for the honor of my majesty?"
While the word was still in the king's mouth, a voice fell from heaven: "King Nebuchadnezzar, to you it is spoken: the kingdom has departed from you! . . . and your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field. They shall make you eat grass like oxen; and seven times shall pass over you, until you know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He chooses." That very hour the word was fulfilled concerning Nebuchadnezzar."

A quote of Nebuchadnezzar has been found outside the Bible that is almost identical to his statement in Daniel 4:30. The inscription known as The East India House inscription, records Nebuchadnezzar's building activities in Babylon and states the following:

"My name will be remembered throughout history for all time because I turned Babylon and Esagila into a mighty fortress."

The greatness of Babylon was also mentioned by the Greek historian Herodotus, who traveled to Babylon some ninety years after the reign of Nebuchadnezzar. In his writings he said that he was overwhelmed by the large quantity of gold amassed in Babylon. He said many of the walls of Babylon were covered with gold overlay.

Nebuchadnezzar believed that it was by his own hand that he created such a magnificent city and that he reigned supreme.

But God caused this mighty ruler to go insane for seven seasons to teach him the lesson that GOD reigns Supreme.

Actual Babylonian records from Nebuchadnezzar himself, also record the seven seasons.

"For four years my kingdom gave me no joy. During this time, not one building of any importance did I issue to be built. And in Babylon itself, no building was erected to pay tribute to my name or to give me glory. I did not sing praises to Merodach, my god, nor did I provide his sacrificial table with offerings, nor did I clean any of the waterways."

Note: In Babylon they counted only two seasons, Summer and Winter. Thus (seven seasons) equals 3 1/2 years. And Nebuchadnezzar stated he did not delight in his kingdom for 4 years. Wow! Nebuchadnezzar finally learned to humble himself before God, as his dad, Nabopolassar, had learned before him. Nabopolassar, speaking on his humble beginnings recorded: "As to my origins, I was born the son of a nobody . . . In my opinion, I was considered to be the least desirable among men, being held as unimportant in the eyes of others." End quote

Many scholars neglected to see that King Nebuchadnezzar was becoming SICK with power. They actually thought Neb was rich with power before he was cut down; In this way they could say that Nebuchadnezzar became insane when God separated Nebuchadnezzar from the things that seemed right to him? What in the world were these scholars thinking?

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