What they are blinded to is that God's holy nation was forever taken away from unbelievers and given to believers. Now only believers can be citizens of God's kingdom.
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What they are blinded to is that God's holy nation was forever taken away from unbelievers and given to believers. Now only believers can be citizens of God's kingdom.
The Gifts and Callings of God
Rom 11:29
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
For the gifts and callings of God are without repentance; and that's why for the Fathers sake there is a remnant [ Israel of God] in Israel [ National Israel], again that's why Paul, a benjamite, a hebrew of hebrews , was made to see[converted], and that's why he had a good hope that many more of his jewish brethren would be turned to the Lord, they too being of the foreknown of God and the election of grace, of which the rest were broken off in their unbelief.
Note: When God set aside the National Covenant with Israel as a Nation being the representation of the Kingdom of God on earth as His People, that did not mean He would not still save ethnic Jews by grace.
You see those that were blinded [ Jn 9:39] were made enemies for the gentiles sake, that the elect remnant of them [ see Acts 15:14-16] may be grafted into the Olive Tree, but in regards to the remnant according to the election of grace [in national Israel], they are beloved for the Fathers sake, because the gifts and the callings of God's own eternal purpose of grace [ 2 Tim 1:9] and not race.
For God did not repent of His purpose of Judicial blindness unto the nation of Israel [ Jn 9:39] nor of His purpose and calling of the election of grace of the gentiles for James says:
Acts 15:17-18
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
This blinding of national Israel and introducing of the gentiles into covenant relationship with the elect remnant of the jews, was all of Gods doing . Matt 21:42
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 2
Rom 11:29
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
For the gifts and callings of God are without repentance; and that's why for the Fathers sake there is a remnant [ Israel of God] in Israel [ National Israel], again that's why Paul, a benjamite, a hebrew of hebrews , was made to see[converted], and that's why he had a good hope that many more of his jewish brethren would be turned to the Lord, they too being of the foreknown of God and the election of grace, of which the rest were broken off in their unbelief.
Note: When God set aside the National Covenant with Israel as a Nation being the representation of the Kingdom of God on earth as His People, that did not mean He would not still save ethnic Jews by grace.
You see those that were blinded [ Jn 9:39] were made enemies for the gentiles sake, that the elect remnant of them [ see Acts 15:14-16] may be grafted into the Olive Tree, but in regards to the remnant according to the election of grace [in national Israel], they are beloved for the Fathers sake, because the gifts and the callings of God's own eternal purpose of grace [ 2 Tim 1:9] and not race.
For God did not repent of His purpose of Judicial blindness unto the nation of Israel [ Jn 9:39] nor of His purpose and calling of the election of grace of the gentiles for James says:
Acts 15:17-18
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
This blinding of national Israel and introducing of the gentiles into covenant relationship with the elect remnant of the jews, was all of Gods doing . Matt 21:42
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 2
God has not changed towards Israel
For God has not changed His purpose of Grace towards Israel, for He keeps His covenant faithfulness [ in spite of the rejection of Him by the jews of national Israel] He keeps His promise by converting the remnant according to the election of grace..That is Paul's point in Rom 11:2
God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. That means there were Jews in Israel He foreknew in their being chosen in Christ and predestinated to the Image of His Son per Rom 8:28
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
So God is Faithful in converting the Jews of the nation who are of the election, and He is Faithful in converting the gentiles of the nations who are of the election. And Gods plan entailed breaking off national Israel for the grafting in of the gentiles.
So in reality, it is those who believe in some kinda postponement theory [ jewish fable] that have no understanding of Gods immutability, for they fail to see Gods purpose in national Israel fall [ Matt 21:42-43 ] and the grafting in of the gentiles per Acts 15:17-18
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world
Notice how this calling of the gentiles is associated with the building up of the tabernacle of David vs
16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
This building again was in a spiritual way. Notice how the terminology of building is used by Paul with the adding of the gentiles to build the temple of God Eph 2:19-22
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit
We should all know that the temple was built after the pattern of the tabernacle.
So vs 29 of Romans 11 is emphatically stating that the gifts and callings to the remnant Jews, and the remnant gentiles are without repentance by God; for this is evidenced by the everlasting covenant to Israel has not been annulled by the reject and blindness of National Israel in part, because the election [ within the nation] hath obtained the promises of the everlasting covenant along with the elect gentiles in the world, and this was the Mystery, but now being revealed by the Gospel. 3
For God has not changed His purpose of Grace towards Israel, for He keeps His covenant faithfulness [ in spite of the rejection of Him by the jews of national Israel] He keeps His promise by converting the remnant according to the election of grace..That is Paul's point in Rom 11:2
God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. That means there were Jews in Israel He foreknew in their being chosen in Christ and predestinated to the Image of His Son per Rom 8:28
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
So God is Faithful in converting the Jews of the nation who are of the election, and He is Faithful in converting the gentiles of the nations who are of the election. And Gods plan entailed breaking off national Israel for the grafting in of the gentiles.
So in reality, it is those who believe in some kinda postponement theory [ jewish fable] that have no understanding of Gods immutability, for they fail to see Gods purpose in national Israel fall [ Matt 21:42-43 ] and the grafting in of the gentiles per Acts 15:17-18
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world
Notice how this calling of the gentiles is associated with the building up of the tabernacle of David vs
16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
This building again was in a spiritual way. Notice how the terminology of building is used by Paul with the adding of the gentiles to build the temple of God Eph 2:19-22
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit
We should all know that the temple was built after the pattern of the tabernacle.
So vs 29 of Romans 11 is emphatically stating that the gifts and callings to the remnant Jews, and the remnant gentiles are without repentance by God; for this is evidenced by the everlasting covenant to Israel has not been annulled by the reject and blindness of National Israel in part, because the election [ within the nation] hath obtained the promises of the everlasting covenant along with the elect gentiles in the world, and this was the Mystery, but now being revealed by the Gospel. 3
Romans 11:32
Rom 11:32
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all
This is one of the most misunderstood verses in romans, and the false teachers and followers of antichrist have a field day with it wresting it out of context. This verse is in the context of Paul's exposition of the mystery !
Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 16:25
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
Eph 3:3
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
And how the unbelief of national Israel [ the partial blindness] was ordered by God for the inclusion or grafting in of the gentiles into Covenant Israel.
Now by God doing this, the gentiles [ the church] would now be instrumental of God, to call by the preaching of the gospel, the elect Jews of the nation into fellowship with Jesus Christ, as well as the elect gentiles too..In other words, now that national Israel is cut off, the elect Jews in that nation will come to faith in Christ through the preaching of the church, which would now be mainly gentiles. So God has by succession plans concluded both Jew and gentiles under unbelief, in order to Have mercy upon all, all people groups..
For at first the gentiles for the most part were in unbelief and ignorant to God and the true way of salvation during the OT era. But now under the new covenant era the tide has changed, and now the Jews for the most part are under unbelief, and now God has mercy on the remnant Jews through the ministry of the gentiles or church..
This was intimated long ago in this prophecy Isa 61:6
But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.
remember back earlier in Rom 11 this statement ? Rom 11:12
Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
The enriching of the gentiles, will fall to the enriching of the elect remnant in national Israel, even though for the most part the many Jews of that nation were blinded..
But the gentile church, would be used of God up until the end, to call out of national Israel a people for His name sake, as He called out of the gentiles a people for his name sake see Acts 15:14..
So that's what Paul means in this verse, in having mercy on all.. He shut down earlier the gentiles in unbelief [ OT ] and under the NT He shut down the Jews in unbelief. And He will have mercy upon each people group, for both groups of people contain a remnant according to the election of grace, which are the vessels of mercy, not of the Jews only but also of the gentiles Rom 9:23-24
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
Rom 11:32
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all
This is one of the most misunderstood verses in romans, and the false teachers and followers of antichrist have a field day with it wresting it out of context. This verse is in the context of Paul's exposition of the mystery !
Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 16:25
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
Eph 3:3
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
And how the unbelief of national Israel [ the partial blindness] was ordered by God for the inclusion or grafting in of the gentiles into Covenant Israel.
Now by God doing this, the gentiles [ the church] would now be instrumental of God, to call by the preaching of the gospel, the elect Jews of the nation into fellowship with Jesus Christ, as well as the elect gentiles too..In other words, now that national Israel is cut off, the elect Jews in that nation will come to faith in Christ through the preaching of the church, which would now be mainly gentiles. So God has by succession plans concluded both Jew and gentiles under unbelief, in order to Have mercy upon all, all people groups..
For at first the gentiles for the most part were in unbelief and ignorant to God and the true way of salvation during the OT era. But now under the new covenant era the tide has changed, and now the Jews for the most part are under unbelief, and now God has mercy on the remnant Jews through the ministry of the gentiles or church..
This was intimated long ago in this prophecy Isa 61:6
But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.
remember back earlier in Rom 11 this statement ? Rom 11:12
Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
The enriching of the gentiles, will fall to the enriching of the elect remnant in national Israel, even though for the most part the many Jews of that nation were blinded..
But the gentile church, would be used of God up until the end, to call out of national Israel a people for His name sake, as He called out of the gentiles a people for his name sake see Acts 15:14..
So that's what Paul means in this verse, in having mercy on all.. He shut down earlier the gentiles in unbelief [ OT ] and under the NT He shut down the Jews in unbelief. And He will have mercy upon each people group, for both groups of people contain a remnant according to the election of grace, which are the vessels of mercy, not of the Jews only but also of the gentiles Rom 9:23-24
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
The Gifts and Callings of God
Rom 11:29
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
For the gifts and callings of God are without repentance; and that's why for the Fathers sake there is a remnant [ Israel of God] in Israel [ National Israel], again that's why Paul, a benjamite, a hebrew of hebrews , was made to see[converted], and that's why he had a good hope that many more of his jewish brethren would be turned to the Lord, they too being of the foreknown of God and the election of grace, of which the rest were broken off in their unbelief.
Note: When God set aside the National Covenant with Israel as a Nation being the representation of the Kingdom of God on earth as His People, that did not mean He would not still save ethnic Jews by grace.
You see those that were blinded [ Jn 9:39] were made enemies for the gentiles sake, that the elect remnant of them [ see Acts 15:14-16] may be grafted into the Olive Tree, but in regards to the remnant according to the election of grace [in national Israel], they are beloved for the Fathers sake, because the gifts and the callings of God's own eternal purpose of grace [ 2 Tim 1:9] and not race.
For God did not repent of His purpose of Judicial blindness unto the nation of Israel [ Jn 9:39] nor of His purpose and calling of the election of grace of the gentiles for James says:
Acts 15:17-18
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
This blinding of national Israel and introducing of the gentiles into covenant relationship with the elect remnant of the jews, was all of Gods doing .. Matt 21:42
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Rom 11:29
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
For the gifts and callings of God are without repentance; and that's why for the Fathers sake there is a remnant [ Israel of God] in Israel [ National Israel], again that's why Paul, a benjamite, a hebrew of hebrews , was made to see[converted], and that's why he had a good hope that many more of his jewish brethren would be turned to the Lord, they too being of the foreknown of God and the election of grace, of which the rest were broken off in their unbelief.
Note: When God set aside the National Covenant with Israel as a Nation being the representation of the Kingdom of God on earth as His People, that did not mean He would not still save ethnic Jews by grace.
You see those that were blinded [ Jn 9:39] were made enemies for the gentiles sake, that the elect remnant of them [ see Acts 15:14-16] may be grafted into the Olive Tree, but in regards to the remnant according to the election of grace [in national Israel], they are beloved for the Fathers sake, because the gifts and the callings of God's own eternal purpose of grace [ 2 Tim 1:9] and not race.
For God did not repent of His purpose of Judicial blindness unto the nation of Israel [ Jn 9:39] nor of His purpose and calling of the election of grace of the gentiles for James says:
Acts 15:17-18
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
This blinding of national Israel and introducing of the gentiles into covenant relationship with the elect remnant of the jews, was all of Gods doing .. Matt 21:42
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
1 Cor 10:18 Israel after the flesh !
1 Cor 10:18
18 Observe Israel after the flesh: Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
Israel after the flesh makes no sense in saying unless there is a Israel after the Spirit.
Rom 9:6
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 3
1 Cor 10:18
18 Observe Israel after the flesh: Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
Israel after the flesh makes no sense in saying unless there is a Israel after the Spirit.
Rom 9:6
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 3
Such plain, clear language, but when Christians, whose minds are under the spell of the whore of Babylon's wine, read those words this happens:
When any one hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes, and seizes that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. Matthew 13:19
He was a heretic if he said those things. Everything is about Jesus, not Israel
When was jesus crowned king in his first advent? I think scripture tells a different story.
Jesus comes back as the king of kings and yes he is my king but his first advent was to restore us to God.
You may see shadows of future events which will come to pass in the new testament .
Jhn 6:15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.
Probably on the mount when he was transfigured and Moses and Elijah appeared by his side. Thereafter as he approached Jerusalem his disciples lauded him as the king of Israel.
You didnt know ? He was born King Matt 2:2
Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
Is born is a aorist passive participle! Jn 1:49
Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
They wanted a earthly king that was not his first advent mission. Jesus is Lord of all not just Israel.
This is why renewing of the mind is so important.Whatever it is a mind of the spirit.Or a mind of the flesh,It takes a mind to understand a thing before you take it to the heart.
Those who are renewed in the mind and live according to the spirit are in the image of God.
But those who are carnal minded live according to the flesh are in the image of the beast.
Hi ChristRosefromthedead,
Love your name and I agree that only God can make Himself king and that everything is about Jesus, 100 percent. But at the same time, we cannot dismiss the fact that God (who is Jesus) made covenants with Israel that cannot be broken and they are the apple of His eye, Zechariah 2:8.
It also does not dismiss that while man cannot crown Christ king, only God can, God aka Jesus gave us the free will to accept Him as king, so it is our choice to crown Jesus as king in our hearts. If a person cannot accept Him as king, then He will not be king over his or her life. A surrendered life to the king, Jesus is the acceptance of His decisions over mankind and His Word. Once a person does this he or she can embrace Jesus's choice to choose the apple of His eye.
God didn't break the covenant; Israel did. God ended the old covenant by establishing a better covenant that made the old obsolete and useless, thus fulfilling his promises to the fathers and Israel through the prophets. We don't keep things around that are old, worn out and useless. Neither does God. This was written nearly 2000 years ago; the old covenant is long gone.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which is worn out and grown old is ready to disappear. Hebrews 8:10-13
The elect remnant are the apple of God's eye, as are all of his children. The part that was blinded is not the apple of his eye.
To us yes...... but to others not so much. There is coming a day when ...Every knee shall bow and tongue confess Jesus Christ is Lord.
but that hasn't happened yet.
As I siad there are shadows of things to come in the new testament. All will be fulfilled when he returns.