But Jesus is not only fully God, but also, since His incarnation, fully Man. The very first temptation shows that the devil tempted Jesus in His manhood, trying to get Him to satisfy His hunger by turning stones into bread.
False teaching by separating Scripture from Scripture
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But Jesus is not only fully God, but also, since His incarnation, fully Man. The very first temptation shows that the devil tempted Jesus in His manhood, trying to get Him to satisfy His hunger by turning stones into bread.
Well you have hit on one of the major problems with the often claimed "inspiration of the HS", there are far too many claims of such when explaining scripture passages and far too many times, they contradict each other, not to mention the assortment of passages that the HS does not seem to be able to address and are left to feeble human imagination.
The Bible theaches that God has a sincere, moral desire for all people to be saved, but He does not eternally decree or intend to save every single person. Instead, He sovereignly chooses to save a specific group (the "elect") while passing over others for His glory.
To reconcile biblical passages that appear to clash between two aspects of God’s will, (the two wills of God), God’s Revealed (or Moral) Will: What God commands and what pleases Him in a moral sense. The Bible clearly states that God "desires all people to be saved" 1 Timothy 2:4 and takes "no pleasure in the death of the wicked" Ezekiel 18:23
God’s Sovereign (or Decree) Will: What God has eternally ordained to actually come to pass. Because God is omnipotent, whatever He ultimately decrees happens.
If it were God’s sovereign will to save every single person, universal salvation would be guaranteed. Since not everyone is saved, His sovereign will to save the elect takes precedence over His desire to save all.
1 Timothy 2:4 The phrase "desires all men to be saved" is referring to "all types of people." In context 1 Timothy 2:1-2, Paul is commanding prayer for kings and those in authority, encouraging the church that God saves people from all social ranks, ethnicities, and backgrounds.
2 Peter 3:9 The verse states God is "not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance." note, the preceding verse (v. 8) addresses the "beloved" (the church). Therefore, this verse refers to "any" of the elect—God is patient until all His chosen people have come to faith.
All humans deserve judgment because of sin. By saving some, God demonstrates His mercy; by passing over others, He demonstrates His justice.
So, you follow the "clearly biblical" teachings that dare all the way back to the 12th or 13th centuries. That is fine so long as you acknowledge that your position was not recognized as scriptural for better than half the life of the church to date. It also requires Sin to be a violation of God's decrees as opposed to the decrees of God being a recognition of basic truth. What do you do with the definite article that appears before both "truth" and "lie" in Romans 1:25 ("THE truth" and "THE lie" in the Greek, far too often "The truth" and "A lie" in translations").
Yes, resolving this problem is the main topic and goal on the Hermeneutics thread, as I know you know.
True. Jesus was tempted by the devil, but not with evil. He never lusted to do evil:
Jas 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: Every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
No Scripture says Jesus was ever tempted with lust to do evil; fornication, theft, murder, vile cursing, making lies, false accusations, dishonouring father and mother, blaspheming God and His name...
The temptations of Jesus Christ the righteous were trials of continued obedience, not lusts for unrighteous things:
Heb{5:8}
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Only as a man in the flesh, could God Himself learn how to obey in all things, and endure all natural and spiritual trials of this life:
1Pe 4:12
Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
Jas 1:2
My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing. Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
2Ti 2:3
Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
Good soldiers are not tempted with lust to betray their fellow-soldiers, but undergo natural trials to test their obedience in all things.
Jesus Christ had no lust of the world in His pure heart, and so never lusted for the sins of the world to do evil against God or man.
So it also now is with them that repent of doing evil for Jesus' sake, to have their own lust taken away with the newborn heart of a babe in Christ:
Ezek 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Jhn 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world
2Co 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ,
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
This is the great gospel promise of Jesus Christ, to walk as He walked without any lust and temptation to do evil.
2Pe 1:3
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
The unrepentant sinner trusting in faith alone to save him, continues with lust for the world untaken away, and continue with the temptations of the world to do evil.
The saints in Christ Jesus are now righteous sons of God and brethren of the Lord, who are tried like he was with the natural affairs of this life, and oppositions to obey the faith, yet without lust to commit ungodly works of the flesh.
Heb 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
And here we have the error of separating Scripture from Scripture: Instead of letting Scripture fulfill it's own narrative by combining Paul with Luke, false readers set Scripture against Scripture, as though one must be chosen over another.
This is what certain fault-finding disbelievers in the Bible do to attack the integrity of the Scriptural record. They especially appreciate the help of pseudo-believers that help them, by doing the same thing...
Luke's purpose by the Holy Spirit was to record Paul's dealings with the disciples and church leadership after his conversion: The Acts' account is not a detailed timeline of all that Paul did.
Paul's testimony is the timeline of all His personal actions following His conversion, which includes a trip to Arabia.
Taking both together with faith in Scriptural unity, we have the complete record between Acts 9 and Gal 1:
1. Ananias ministers to Saul of Tarsus, and was baptized.
2. Saul was with disciples for some days.
3. Saul goes to Arabia, and returns again to Damascus for 3 years
4. He preached Christ in the Jews' synagogues.
5. Saul escapes capture at Damascus.
6. Saul goes to Jerusalem to the disciples, but they were afraid.
7. Barnabas took Saul to the apostles, beginning with Peter and then James, but none other.
7. Saul preaches at Jerusalem to the Jews and Grecian proselytes.
8. Saul escapes capture again from Jerusalem to Caesarea, and then to Syria, and then home to Tarsus in Cilicia.
9. (Acts 11) Barnabas takes Saul from Tarsus to preach at Antioch for a year. This is when the converts to Jesus Christ are first called Christians...
By separating scripture from Scripture with the assumption of error, there are several places that the Bible fault-finders can accuse of error. Which of course is based entirely upon the fault-finding assumption of error, with letting Scripture fulfill it's own complete record.
Anyone can show any book of making internal errors. And many books do, which is why they seek help of editors.
But the Bible is the only Book written by so many people, over so much time, that does not have any errors. People can still look for them, without believing the Bible. But no one has been able to rightly accuse the Bible of error.
Allowing the Bible itself to defend and justify itself, is the good work of rightly reading, believing, and teaching the Bible.
Your belief in Bible error, is unbelief in Bible truth, which has no error.
Unbelief in any Scripture of Christ, is unbelief in Jesus Christ as Lord and God.
Delusion much. No one has faith in Jesus' words, who doubts any of His words.
This of course is different, and should be included in any efforts to change the translated words, without harming the Scriptures themselves.
So far, the way you've been acting, is that all you've done is side with the Bible fault-finders, by saying certain Scriptures have no place.
Already given the scriptures and sense of them. Accusing the teaching is false, without answering it's points, is just your own spoiled unbelief, not any true correction.
Already given. You just don't believe them without proving the teaching false.
Now that you've begrudgingly accepted the sensible teaching of the scriptures, you appear to ask a reasonable question: When does the hair cover the head, as a woman ought, and when is the hair cut short to uncover the head, as a man ought. I.e. what's the difference between women trimming their long hair, and men getting a man's haircut...
Sense Scripture does not give a specific line on the head between them, then God leaves it up to His faithful people to have sense enough to know the difference between women's long hair, and men's haircuts.
And if someone still has a 'problem' figuring that one out, then ask any objective child, who knows when he's looking at a person with women's hair, and a person with a man's haircut.
And since your questioning is mostly mockery, then for you:
2Ti 2:23
But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
Typical response of the disobedient and lawless. Especially by those faith-alone self justifiers, called OSAS Christians.
Pharisees taught things not written at all from the law of God. Rejecting what's written in the Scriptures for believers to do, is disobeying the rule of Christ.
James{1:22}
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
Tit 1:10
For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers...
Right. You're just a translator critique. So, where's the translation error in 1 Cor 11?
Or, is it just as you said, that certain Scriptures in 1 Cor 11 don't 'belong' in the Bible.
1Ti 6:4
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
So, is this another 'translation' objection, or you just don't like being rebuked for doting questions about how long women's long hair is, and how short men's short hair is?
Rev 9:8
And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
Unless you have a translation issue here, what is it that causes Christ to say the hair is the hair of women? Color? Curly? Style? Or length...
The most shaky non-biblical theological argument is actually based not on a single verse but no verse at all.
Faith Alone Regeneration Theology is based on a surmised understanding of general verses about salvation.
The theology is based totally on conjecture and is at odds with multiple passages in the Bible.
It is even the polar opposite on James 2:24. Which is a rather straight forward verse.
Okay, please address the following specifics.
1 and 2) Acts claims Saul interacted with fellow believers before he went to Arabia. In Galatians 1, Paul DENIES having interacted with other believers before going to Arabia. Pleased explain this.
3 and 6) You claim that Saul returned to Damascus where he preached for three years. In Galatians 1 Paul merely states that after 3 years he visited Damascus, not that he preached there for three years, and that after that he went to Syria/Cilicia for 14 years before going to Jerusalem.
7a and 8 (you have two 7's) Paul never mentions Barnabas being involved in his decision to go to Jerusalem. and never mentions having to escape Jerusalem.
You also avoid the question of who did Saul/Paul have to escape from in Damascus, Acts claims it was Jews, Paul claims it was Arabs and Paul also claims that he was only in Damascus one time, so if you want to make two escapes, justify the second.
Simple as those who do His words, vs those who only profess them. And of course those that reject them outright.
Oh. So you were speaking for yourself, when talking about disobeying the Lord's words? I'm not interested in anyone's Christian religion for unregenerate sinners.
If any transgressor seeks the salvation of Jesus Christ to stop being a sinner just like the rest of unregenerate mankind. Then all they need to do is repent of their sinful transgressing for Jesus' sake, and he will take away your lust and sin, to make you able by His faith and power to do only His good will and pleasure.
Jhn 8:29
And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
2:13
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Here we go again with RADICAL faith-alone unregenerated Christian religion. Why do people think that making unbiblical superlatives, somehow convinces people they are preaching Biblical gospel??
In any case, the phrase 'and such were some of you' means what it says: and some of you were doing such things, but no more...
1 Cor 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind…Gal 5:19 and such like of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Eph 4:28
Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
The power of Jesus Christ's salvation from sinning, is to completely wash, sanctify, and justify the repentant from all their lust and sin together...
1Co 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
2Co 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ,
Paul reminds believers that we are still judged by our works, and not by what we believe alone.
Rom 2:3
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?...For there is no respect of persons with God.
Whether it's 'identity' sexual orientation, or 'Identity' Christian religion, people can identify themselves as whatever they want, but what we do is who we are before God:
1Sa 24:13
As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked:
1 Peter {1:15}
But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man’s work, pass the time of your sojourning in fear:
No one transgressing His commandments has any standing in Christ Jesus:
2Ti 2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Transgressors standing by their faith-alone, are standing by themselves alone.
Jhn 8:29
And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
Christ does not make any person in the image of the devil, nor forms sinners from the womb to do evil.
Jhn 1:2
The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men…That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Jas 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
That's an old lie of the devil, that it's God the Creator, and Jesus Christ the Maker, that is at fault for people lusting after their own sin. That lie is willingly believed by some unrepented transgressors, that want to justify themselves: "It's not my fault God made me this way..." and also, "it's my body's fault..."
And the worst offense is unrepented sinful Christians doing so by their own unregenerate faith-alone...
Correct. Progressive gradual sanctification of transgressors, rather than whole hearted repentance from all transgressions, is the unregenerate religion of the world, not the pure religion of Jesus Christ:
Ezek 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Jhn 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Jas 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God is not sinning; but he that is begotten of God is keeping himself, and that wicked one is not touching him.
Much better than all those RADICAL faith-alone bromides, that preach justification with transgressions.
You were in desperate need of heart, life, and soul. And rather than blaming God, the world, or pity yourself, you look to Jesus, and He gave you repentance from your own sins and trespasses, that got you to your knees before Him.
Now you walk by His faith to do only His good will, with love and power of the Spirit from a pure heart.
But, if any such Christian continues to transgress His commandment from time to time, then their repentance is incomplete with a double heart. Jesus Christ can wholly deliver even the double minded unto full complete washing, sanctification, and justification from lust and sins of the world:
Rom 7:24,
O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:4
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
This is true. Separating Scripture from Scripture especially includes purposely separating a teaching from any specific verse, that itself proves the teaching must be false.
For any teaching of Scripture to stand true, then they must continue to agree with all Scriptures taken together. But just one verse of Scripture, that cannot be read any other way than written, can prove the whole teaching false, no matter how many other Scriptures 'appear' to support it.
The single destroying verse proves all the apparent agreement from other verses, is just a string of false teachings to support a lie.
A good example one verse destroying a false teaching from meaning verses, is that John 1:1 destroys any heresy of a created Christ-angel. John 1;1 must either be ignored or destroyed of it's plain meaning, in order to continue trusting in a Christ-angel to save them. Though they do have many Scriptures appearing to confirm their false Christ.
Faith-alone justification is the same, which also appears to have many Scripture favoring it as the gospel of Jesus Christ. However, James 2:24 destroys it as any possible gospel of saving faith in Christ Jesus.
And so, several faith-alone Christians either ignore James 2 altogether, or likewise try to destroy it's plain meaning. The problem is that they dig themselves into an even worse ditch than before.
Some say, that the faith in James 2 is not saving faith, which 2:1, 14 proves otherwise, but rather they say, that the faith in James 2 is only to justify their faith with men: To prove to men that their faith-alone is 'real, genuine, and true' saving faith... I.e. their works justify them with men, but not with God.
Jhn 5:44
How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
Matthew{23:5}
But all their works they do for to be seen of men:
Mat 15:14
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
This pitfall of hypocrisy in only seeking to be justified with men by their works, and not with God, is what happens when people try to preach faith-alone justification without any works, and then also try to preach works to justify their faith.
They want to be justified by their faith-alone like all transgressors, and yet they want to at least have some works of progress to justify themselves.
Faith-alone justification is the same, which also appears to have many Scripture favoring it as the gospel of Jesus Christ. However, James 2:24 destroys it as any possible gospel of saving faith in Christ Jesus.
And so, several faith-alone Christians either ignore James 2 altogether, or likewise try to destroy it's plain meaning. The problem is that they dig themselves into an even worse ditch than before.
Some say, that the faith in James 2 is not saving faith, which 2:1, 14 proves otherwise, but rather they say, that the faith in James 2 is only to justify their faith with men: To prove to men that their faith-alone is 'real, genuine, and true' saving faith... I.e. their works justify them with men, but not with God.
Jhn 5:44
How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
Matthew{23:5}
But all their works they do for to be seen of men:
Mat 15:14
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
This pitfall of hypocrisy in only seeking to be justified with men by their works, and not with God, is what happens when people try to preach faith-alone justification without any works, and then also try to preach works to justify their faith.
They want to be justified by their faith-alone like all transgressors, and yet they want to at least have some works of progress to justify themselves.
Only to major false doctrines of Christianity. Of which there have been, and are many, from the beginning of Jesus Christ's resurrection from the dead.
You've missed the point entirely. Doctrine and prophecy of Scripture is not written in every verse, nor needs to be.
False teaching is only when certain verses applying to the same teaching and prophecy are excluded, in order to teach some verse or verses falsely out of context.
Although you miss the point, you are trying to make a point, that appears to apply. However, who has ever mistaken Phillip's transportation by the Spirit from the Gazan desert road to Azotus, as though that were a rapture of the church?
It's called making an absurd point to unnecessarily complicate a good rule and teaching.
False. Such divisions and heresies began when the apostles were writing doctrine and prophecy of Christ, and there were many.
And furthermore, this isn't just a good Bible rule for reading and teaching in context, but is the common standard of teaching and critiquing all books. It's basic literary comprehension 101. It begins in grade school, when the students are taught not to take things out of context, nor come up with something the author never intended to write.
Oh well, now we see the main objection: The rule also destroys a major false doctrine among some Christians, called 'Oneness'. I.e. the Father is the Son is the Spirit, and the Spirit is the Son is the Father, where all the Godhead is the same one Person.
Which of course separates John 10:30 "The Father and I are one", from John 17:11 & 22, where Jesus prays the Father, that His people be made one, even as They are one.
Jhn 17:11
Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
Jhn 17:22
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
We see how Christ in Scripture always gives verses to prove or disprove any doctrine taught by man, whether it be from all the applicable Scriptures of God, vs the errors of man separating certain Scriptures from others, that pertain to the same thing: The Godhead unity of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
It's impossible for the Father and Son to be the same one person, when all the sons of God in Christ Jesus are made to be one, even as the Father and Son are one: Which would make all the sons one person, not many members of the body of Christ, but only the same one member.
It's those not applying this standard literary rule, that change all manner of writings and books, that they don't agree with, into something different than the author intended and wrote.
Such as Oneness teachers separating certain Scripture on unity of the godhead from other Scriptures isolated out of context: The Father and I are one, is in itself commonly understood as unity, since the Son on earth could not also be the Father in heaven. Nor does he simply say, I am the Father. Or, I am the Son and the Father.
Even the ones falsely accusing Jesus of blasphemy for calling Himself the Son of God, understood He was making Himself equal to God, not saying that He was the Father from heaven:
Jhn 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
So your object confesses your own major error is one of those destroyed by taking all Scriptures together in context, that pertain to the Godhead of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
And, I will also point out, that all such major errors, are many times only used as a front cover for the real secret agenda of certain sects of Christians. The Oneness doctrine is only used for Acts 2:38 water baptism: Which is made into a codified formula for baptism, that excludes any other Christian baptism immersions in water. Unless the exact words of Peter's directive on water baptism, then all other baptisms in the name of the Lord are rejected as false. And all Christians confessing Jesus Lord are excluded from salvation by faith.
Even as the old Judaizers say, that no one can be saved without outward circumcision, so these oneness Christians declare no one can be saved, not just without water baptism, but without the 'proper' water baptism liturgy of "In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ"
So, what if someone errs and 'only' says, In the name of the Lord Jesus." Does that count to save the confessing believer in Jesus Christ? Or, when Paul baptized certain disciples in the name of the Lord? Or, when Jesus says to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost?
All such erroneous doctrines by separating Scripture out of context, most always result in foolish practices, that are meant to exclude one certain sect of Christians from all others in salvation and justification of Jesus Christ.