It clearly states BY faith... not gifted faith.
Nah, a person receives/is declared justified after exercising faith in Christ Jesus and receiving the gift of salvation and ......... then the new believer has the peace WITH God.
Election by God Is According to His will, not man’s Will to believe
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It clearly states BY faith... not gifted faith.
Nah, a person receives/is declared justified after exercising faith in Christ Jesus and receiving the gift of salvation and ......... then the new believer has the peace WITH God.
It doesn't say that - you've inappropriately added to what the verse specifically states - stick to it as written. It says, "through our Lord Jesus Christ". It was His faith that brought/brings forth peace with God and salvation, not man's faith. Man's faith did not yield peace with God because it is an imperfect faith. Christ's faith, on the other hand, was perfect.
It does not say "gifted faith" because did not intend that. Otherwise, the involvement of man would be required for salvation even if gifted, but instead, it is all by Christ alone without man's participation
Good to see you no longer believe that man is a participant in obtaining his salvation (besides being the recipient) but instead that it is solely given between God the Father and Jesus Christ.
They do not like to admit that faith is a gift since it blows their self-exalting theology out of the water.
They prefer believing that man is a good guy and that he can produce good fruit from his incurably
wicked heart, even though Jesus said it was impossible, and Scripture says there are none good.
Scripture also says all good things come from above, from the Father of Lights. But no, they believe
they can change their wicked heart even though doing so is equated with a leopard changing its spots
or an Ethiopian the colour of their skin. Just like they say everyone hears when Jesus said otherwise.
If you ever need anyone to butcher Scripture for you, Heis is your person. According to them, God is not
even required in the process of coming to believe, and God is unfair for doing things thy way He does.
Well report me to a mod if you think I am here dishonestly but you know I am not.
You are just another person who cannot stand to have anyone question your false authority. You make things or try to
make things personal in order to avoid actually givng a responsible answer and then create a false narrative to attempt
to make the other person less credible.
You can quote scripture all day long, but they are not the lessons to others you think they are.
You are actually the 'they' you are sniping at.
Salvation is received as a complete gift through faith, that is what the scripture makes clear.
If initial/saving faith was a gift it would not be "through."
Paul is absolutely clear in the grammatical structure of Ephesians 2:8 that the gift IS salvation, not faith.
Without that verse all else is eiegesis and manipulations.
Magenta thrives on personal attacks. No, I have not been banned and saying I have is what is dishonest. It seems that certain
people here cannot address others that point out what they say is not exactly what scripture states without some kind of
nasty verbagge. Magenta excels at that which is why I usually ignore her.
Think what you want. The thread is not about me though is it. But you ahead and report me. Please .
You don't hand out the gospel but if you did, it seems it might be lacking grace.
Where is all the scripture that illustrates what you say you believe? I have not seen any from you....just those personal comments that have no basis in scripture but do seem to come from your personal beliefs which have no bearing on the actual gospel according to scripture.
You say alot with no explanations. Listen, if you call someone out as a false teacher, at least tell us all why. Point out the error, otherwise, if you can.
If you read what @Magenta wrote it is clear she is saying that the person requested that the account be deleted.
So making the comments you have made about me are ok? It's ok to spread a false narrative because a person who personally dislikes me got nasty to me?
Got it. Very charitable of you.
I don't deny that and I did not deny that. But why are you still talking about it? See how effective what did is?
That, was her intention all along. It's a red herring designed to make me dishonest ...because SHE said so.
When a person asks to have their account deleted, it's not dishonest nor is it somehow making them a liar.
Wake up and stop supporting the personal attacks. I won't hold my breath since you have followed me and at least
one other person around on this site liking any post that disagrees with me.
And some of you wonder why good people leave the site while the name callers and nasty replies fly around here, always from the same people.
The meaning of any word, including "world," depends on the context. In John 3:16 it refers to people.
You mean like this "None of that screams TULIP. Nicely taken out of context though."?