Some thoughts on the Sabbath...

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What you are not understanding is the logic of these verses of scripture and the heavenly sanctuary, God's Gospel Plan, ...

There is no need for a "Third Temple" from God's perspective. A Third Temple is something that the Catholic Church wants built to gain control of the Holy Lands, Satan wants to control the Holy Lands....for his agendas ... Remember the Crusades !!! these "so called" Jewish people, many of whom are not descendants of Abraham, but Khazarian / Ashkenazi Jews .. not blood related to Abraham, and not related to God's first covenant people to inherit "The Holy Lands. Which they claim to justify their holocaust, and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, with the full support of Trump, the US of A, ~> the second land Beast of Rev. 13. ( but that's another story )

Khazar/Irano-Turko-Slavic Hypothesis: A significant portion of the ancestry is traced to converts from the Khazar Khaganate and surrounding regions, including Slavs, Alans (Iranian nomads), Greeks, and the Gok-Turks (Ashina tribe). Thse groups converted to Judaism in the 6th and 8th centuries

This whole Zionist Movement since the early 1900s has been a Mesonic / Catholic Jesuit ( Anti-Christ ) construct, to gain control of the Holy Lands, among other agendas.

I'm NOT antisemitic !! I'm anti- Antichrist !! I'm an Adventist Christian, a True Protestant Christian, like ALL the classical Protestant Reformers where, Protesting the Catholic Church for being AntiChrist, pointing out her false doctrines, and practices, being BABYLON,
of Revelation 17-18: Babylon the Great, a corrupt world religious system opposed to God.

Revelation 17:5
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And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.(KJV).
"Harlots" = these apostate Protestant Churches.


YuP !! " Apostate Protestantism" = the "false prophet" of Rev 16:13 ...
It would do you well to watch the second video in my sig ... it explains this better than I do ....

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"Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves." Matthew 7:15

That describes you and your false interpretations of God's word. You slander God's elite servants, some of whom sacrificed everything for the gospel.

Paul wrote to the Galatians and what he said applies to you and your ilk:

"I am amazed how quickly you are deserting the One who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— which is not even a gospel. Evidently some people (you!) are troubling you and trying to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse."

Can you not see how ignorant and foolish your words are? Can you not see that the Church, even with its problems, had spread far and wide centuries before SDA appeared? Christians went to China in 645. Do you not see that SDA was founded on a false prophecy? At least Miller had the decency to repent.​
 
I do not see grace as doctrine or power. Strong's also defines it as kindness, the kindness of God.
In the New Testament, grace (from the Greek charis) is defined as God's unmerited favor—a free, generous, and completely undeserved gift. It is God actively showing kindness and doing for you what you could never accomplish on your own, making it the absolute opposite of earning something through works. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Grace as Understood in Key Passages
  • Ephesians 2:8-9: As you noted, Paul writes that "by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God". This means that salvation—deliverance from sin and eternal life—is completely a product of God's grace. Your faith is merely the empty hands accepting the free gift, rather than a payment or a good deed.
  • Acts 15:11: During the Jerusalem Council, Peter declares: "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, in the same way as they also are." This establishes that both Jewish and Gentile believers are justified entirely by the grace of Jesus, entirely apart from keeping the Old Testament Law. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.
 
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In the New Testament, grace (from the Greek charis) is defined as God's unmerited favor—a free, generous, and completely undeserved gift. It is God actively showing kindness and doing for you what you could never accomplish on your own, making it the absolute opposite of earning something through works. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Grace as Understood in Key Passages
  • Ephesians 2:8-9: As you noted, Paul writes that "by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God". This means that salvation—deliverance from sin and eternal life—is completely a product of God's grace. Your faith is merely the empty hands accepting the free gift, rather than a payment or a good deed.
  • Acts 15:11: During the Jerusalem Council, Peter declares: "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, in the same way as they also are." This establishes that both Jewish and Gentile believers are justified entirely by the grace of Jesus, entirely apart from keeping the Old Testament Law. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

I can not understand it in this form.

Here is what I have come to understand.

by the kindness (grace- same word) of the Father, He sent His Son to die, to pay our penalty of death, each have earned.

He sent His Son to this horrendous painful death --- out of kindness -- while we all were evil unrepentant sinners.

Who dies for murderers, people that can murder infants and children or even for pedophiles? not me, I could push the button on these folks.

this is the grace of God, this is the only way I can understand this word.
"Grace" also seems to ignore or even hides the Sacrifice Christ made for us.

This is FACT: if Christ had not come and died as our Passover --- not one human would ever live again.
That one event --- is grace, is kindness, is love, far far beyond the ability of man.

and I believe there are very few that understand what Christ gave up to become our Passover. On second thought there are none!
 
I do not see grace as doctrine or power. Strong's also defines it as kindness, the kindness of God.

Grace might be given in kindness. But it does not mean it is kindness itself.
Stongs is good, but too limited for 100% of what he provided.
For in his day? He, too, had his own bias that we need to recognize.
By understanding in the ever-growing and maturing body of Christ.

Grace?
It is power! ENABLING power.
Grace enables us to do and to be what we can not accomplish in our natural selves.

For grace makes us to be, and to become, what God desires of us to be!

But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”
Therefore, I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may
rest on me." 2 Corinthians 12:9​
But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect.
No, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me."
1 Corinthians 15:10​
Note! Grace is enabling power!
I worked harder than all of themyet not I, but the grace of God that was with me."

Grace and peace!
 
Grace might be given in kindness. But it does not mean it is kindness itself.
Stongs is good, but too limited for 100% of what he provided.
For in his day? He, too, had his own bias that we need to recognize.
By understanding in the ever-growing and maturing body of Christ.

Grace?
It is power! ENABLING power.
Grace enables us to do and to be what we can not accomplish in our natural selves.

For grace makes us to be, and to become, what God desires of us to be!

But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”
Therefore, I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may
rest on me." 2 Corinthians 12:9​
But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect.
No, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me."
1 Corinthians 15:10​
Note! Grace is enabling power!
I worked harder than all of themyet not I, but the grace of God that was with me."

Grace and peace!
My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”

my kindness is sufficient for My power (by MY Spirit in you)
is made perfect in (your) weakness ----
From the O T to new N T it is God's Spirit, God IS SPIRIT


This is not saying grace is power, if that were the so, then grace should have come down on the 120 at Pentecost

3Then there appeared to them https://biblehub.com/nkjv/acts/2.htm#footnotesdivided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

grace did not do any thing it is simply the Kindness of God
 
My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”

my kindness is sufficient for My power (by MY Spirit in you)
is made perfect in (your) weakness ----
From the O T to new N T it is God's Spirit, God IS SPIRIT


This is not saying grace is power, if that were the so, then grace should have come down on the 120 at Pentecost

3Then there appeared to them https://biblehub.com/nkjv/acts/2.htm#footnotesdivided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

grace did not do any thing it is simply the Kindness of God
The unmerited favor which is kindness... grace did it all through christ action on the cross
 
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I can not understand it in this form.

Here is what I have come to understand.

by the kindness (grace- same word) of the Father, He sent His Son to die, to pay our penalty of death, each have earned.

He sent His Son to this horrendous painful death --- out of kindness -- while we all were evil unrepentant sinners.

Who dies for murderers, people that can murder infants and children or even for pedophiles? not me, I could push the button on these folks.

this is the grace of God, this is the only way I can understand this word.
"Grace" also seems to ignore or even hides the Sacrifice Christ made for us.

This is FACT: if Christ had not come and died as our Passover --- not one human would ever live again.
That one event --- is grace, is kindness, is love, far far beyond the ability of man.

and I believe there are very few that understand what Christ gave up to become our Passover. On second thought there are none!
Grace is so much more than kindness.

Acts 20:24
But I do not consider my life of any account as dear to myself, so that I may finish my course and the ministry
which I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify solemnly of the gospel of the grace of God.

Galatians 1:6
I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel.

Philippians 1:7
For it is only right for me to feel this way about you all, because I have you in my heart, since both in my imprisonment
and in the defence and confirmation of the gospel, you all are partakers of grace with me.

Legalism is utterly contrary to the gospel of Jesus Christ because it replaces the finished work of the cross with
human performance. It forces believers to earn their standing with God, whereas the gospel offers unmerited favor,
transforms the heart, and gives a secure identity as God’s children.

The New Testament highlights several foundational reasons why legalism fundamentally opposes the gospel of grace:

It Nullifies the Work of Christ.
The core claim of legalism is that faith alone is insufficient and must be supplemented by rule-keeping to achieve
righteousness. The Apostle Paul directly addresses this in the Book of Galatians, stating.

Galatians 5:4
You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

To rely on the law for salvation is to claim that Christ’s sacrificial death was inadequate for salvation.

It Makes Faith About Fear Instead of Love Under Grace, obedience flows out of gratitude, love, and a transformed heart.
The Apostle John writes, "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear" (1 John 4:18). Legalism reverses this
completely. Its primary motivators are the fear of punishment, fear of rejection, and the anxiety of constantly falling short.
It reduces a vibrant, Spirit led relationship with God into an oppressive list of do's and don'ts.

It Promotes Self-Righteousness over Surrender.

Legalism feeds human pride and the flesh by allowing people to measure themselves against others. It creates a competitive environment where individuals view their moral performance as a way to boast before God or condemn those around them. The gospel, conversely, completely dismantles human pride by declaring that no one is justified by works of the law (Romans 3:20,) centering all the glory on God's grace.

It relies on will power instead of the Holy Spirit Living under grace does not mean an excuse to sin. Romans 6:14 famously declares, "For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace."

Legalism attempts to restrain sin using external rules and sheer human exertion. The gospel, however, defeats sin through the internal power of the Holy Spirit, who writes God's desires (love) on the believer's heart.
 
My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”

my kindness is sufficient for My power (by MY Spirit in you)
is made perfect in (your) weakness ----
From the O T to new N T it is God's Spirit, God IS SPIRIT


This is not saying grace is power, if that were the so, then grace should have come down on the 120 at Pentecost

3Then there appeared to them https://biblehub.com/nkjv/acts/2.htm#footnotesdivided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

grace did not do any thing it is simply the Kindness of God
Grace is what saves us.

Ephesians 2:8
By grace through faith...

Colossians 1:21-23
And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, yet He has now reconciled
you
in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach
if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel
that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister.

From start to finish in the Christian life is all about the grace of God.
 
My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”

my kindness is sufficient for My power (by MY Spirit in you)
is made perfect in (your) weakness ----
From the O T to new N T it is God's Spirit, God IS SPIRIT


This is not saying grace is power, if that were the so, then grace should have come down on the 120 at Pentecost

3Then there appeared to them https://biblehub.com/nkjv/acts/2.htm#footnotesdivided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

grace did not do any thing it is simply the Kindness of God
The very fact you can know Jesus is God was by grace.
Kindness does not make you know things.
 
The very fact you can know Jesus is God was by grace.
Kindness does not make you know things.
I agree, the kindness I have been shown by the Father for calling me to Christ is beyond comprehension.
For the Father to allow Christ to die for my sins, when I was unrepentant, actually an eager sinner? is impossible to understand.
 
I agree, the kindness I have been shown by the Father for calling me to Christ is beyond comprehension.
For the Father to allow Christ to die for my sins, when I was unrepentant, actually an eager sinner? is impossible to understand.

Kindness is one thing.
Grace is different reality.

When you were a baby?
Typically, you took your first steps when kindness was shown to you.
Beckoning you to walk towards a person holding out his hands to catch you.
But, the kindness did not make you able to walk.

Likewise... God's grace gave our spiritual legs the strength needed to walk when God said were ready to walk in faith.
 
I agree, the kindness I have been shown by the Father for calling me to Christ is beyond comprehension.
For the Father to allow Christ to die for my sins, when I was unrepentant, actually an eager sinner? is impossible to understand.
Not impossible.

It is only impossible as long as we remain ignorant of the needed Bible doctrines that would make us able to see, and put the big picture together.
 
Not impossible.

It is only impossible as long as we remain ignorant of the needed Bible doctrines that would make us able to see, and put the big picture together.
so you have the mind of God?
you understand how the Father thinks?
can you explain why He called me, me, a worthless piece of garbage that He was charis enough to let the death of His ONLY Son pay for my sins so I did not need to die.
 
so you have the mind of God?
you understand how the Father thinks?

We have been given the mind of Christ! (1 Corinthians 2:16)

Yes.... We are to learn how the Father thinks.


can you explain why He called me, me, a worthless piece of garbage that He was charis enough to let the death of His ONLY Son pay for my sins so I did not need to die.

A worthless piece of garbage? :mad:
Why do you keep seeing yourself according to what you were before he saved you?

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation;
old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
2 Corinthians 5:17​

The Greek we see translated 'new creation' had a specific meaning.
It meant we have become not only something new.
But something entirely new, like nothing else that existed before it.
Something entirely new and different.....

For we are a new spiritual species that can become transformed into His image with ever increasing glory.

So, are you still a worthless piece of garbage, to God now?
 
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And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."
Your quotation is out of the context.

Jesus was speaking to the Jews and they were under the Mt Sinai covenant (Exodus 24) to obey all the law.

The Gentile nations were not in covenant to obey the law.
 
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America is looking like the Beast of ...​

  • Revelation 13:14-15: Describes the second beast compelling people to make an image of the first beast, which is given breath to speak and cause death to those who refuse to worship it.
  • Revelation 14:9: Warns against worshipping the beast and his image.
  • Revelation 15:2: Mentions those who are victorious over the beast and his image.
  • Revelation 16:2; 19:20; 20:4: Further discuss the consequences of relation to the beast's image.

Rededicate 250: If You Still Don’t Believe the Image Forms in America

  • Sunday exalted as the “Christian Sabbath”
  • The Biblical seventh-day Sabbath dismissed as merely a “Jewish” tradition instead of an explicit command from God
  • Protestant leaders embracing the very traditions the Reformers once protested against
  • American civil and religious identity merging together under a common spiritual banner
"The termChristian Sabbath” is not found in Scripture. It is a term rooted in Roman Catholic traditiona system that openly claims authority over the change from the seventh day to Sunday. The Reformers gave their lives resisting the union of church and state and exposing the authority claims of Rome. Yet today, modern Protestantism increasingly stands shoulder-to-shoulder with the very power their forefathers fled from in search of religious liberty.Like Israel gathering around the golden calf, America is attempting to create a form of worship and national unity God never commanded:"

“This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.” — Matthew 15:8

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its the same grace, it is an attribute of the godhead

Legion

Let me run something by you

the children of Israel could not obey God for the 40 years
Then when in the promised Land they still could not
up to the time of Christ -- still can't obey
why?
The O T did not offer eternal life or the Holy Spirit
the N T Christ came to confirm -- that means get it signed on dotted line
What does the N offer? eternal life and the Holy Spirit

again why?

The Holy Spirit is not part of a trinity it is the ONE Spirit of the Father and when put into a person it then gives the power of God to that person and THEN they can begin to obey.

Christ had the Spirit without measure -- thus HE obeyed perfectly -- not one sin
To day the Father's spirit is given in small measures, just enough so we can struggle against sin and over a life time sin less and less

Bottom line -- Grace does not mean no one needs to obey, which is why it is so popular,
obedience is required and the Father gives us the power to obey --- it is The Father, not us obeying, it is impossible for humans to obey with out the Holy Spirit.

this doctrine of grace has been twisted to allow folks to think -- obeying God is not required -- lie!