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Jesus already told us who His children are, in the verse I quoted. It is very plain and clear, there is no confusion.
Yes, you’re willfully not getting it.
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Yes, you’re willfully not getting it.
MM thought it was Sarah (free) vs Hagar (bondwoman) --son was Isaac from Sarah and Ishmael from Hagar. Ishmael went away and became a hunter and married an Egyptian woman. Isaac married Rebekah a fellow Hebrew.
Which one are we? Isaac and Ishmael had the same father Abraham - different mothers.
With Rebekah, it was same mother for the twins, Isaac the father of both of them, but for the twins, one son a hunter (Esau) was favoured by Isaac, and one son a homebody (Jacob) by Rebekah. It was Jacob who deceived or tricked Esau into giving up his birthright, for famously a 'mess of pottage' or venison stew. So Jacob ended up getting blessed by Isaac instead - and after wrestling with God (or his angel) changed his name to Israel and had twelves sons (and one daughter) to two women Rachel and Leah and their handmaidens. They are the patriarchs of the nation of Israel.
Leah was in the lineage of Jesus who was a descendent of her son Judah. (From whom are named the Jewish people)
And here we are today.
So it's complicated - but the spiritual inheritance and blessing goes to the descendants of Abraham, (Israel conditional on if they behaved and kept the covenant) while Jesus sets free all those who were in bondage. Out of Egypt I called my son, says God.
In a nutshell, it's complicated, but in the end Jesus blood and sacrifice on the cross can override whatever bondages we had because he created a NEW covenant with God. So from the original family tree (Israel) who'd branches got broken off we, the wild ones outside it, can be grafted in.
Which one are we? Isaac and Ishmael had the same father Abraham - different mothers.
With Rebekah, it was same mother for the twins, Isaac the father of both of them, but for the twins, one son a hunter (Esau) was favoured by Isaac, and one son a homebody (Jacob) by Rebekah. It was Jacob who deceived or tricked Esau into giving up his birthright, for famously a 'mess of pottage' or venison stew. So Jacob ended up getting blessed by Isaac instead - and after wrestling with God (or his angel) changed his name to Israel and had twelves sons (and one daughter) to two women Rachel and Leah and their handmaidens. They are the patriarchs of the nation of Israel.
Leah was in the lineage of Jesus who was a descendent of her son Judah. (From whom are named the Jewish people)
And here we are today.
So it's complicated - but the spiritual inheritance and blessing goes to the descendants of Abraham, (Israel conditional on if they behaved and kept the covenant) while Jesus sets free all those who were in bondage. Out of Egypt I called my son, says God.
In a nutshell, it's complicated, but in the end Jesus blood and sacrifice on the cross can override whatever bondages we had because he created a NEW covenant with God. So from the original family tree (Israel) who'd branches got broken off we, the wild ones outside it, can be grafted in.
If you meaning everyone that's human and walks on two legs is Gods children simply because from the very beginning humans were created in God's image, then yes that is true. We aren't God's pets (animals/creatures) we are related to Father God and resemble Him. But do we know Him as a Father, or is He just a faceless God. Allah isn't a Father and it's believed he had no son....
Wait was Queen Vashti killed?
Was this a Rebecca situation? Huh never knew. I just thought she was banished..but yea it makes sense, I mean Henry the eighth was known for beheading his wives when they couldn't give him children and that's nothing new.
Hagar was just bondwoman (maid) to Sarah who was free.
Islam doesn't grant much freedom to women if any.
Although some christian sects also enslave their women, for the most part, we are free, and if nobody marries us, the Bible (New Testament) says we can have a happy life. We are not called to bondage.
Was this a Rebecca situation? Huh never knew. I just thought she was banished..but yea it makes sense, I mean Henry the eighth was known for beheading his wives when they couldn't give him children and that's nothing new.
Hagar was just bondwoman (maid) to Sarah who was free.
Islam doesn't grant much freedom to women if any.
Although some christian sects also enslave their women, for the most part, we are free, and if nobody marries us, the Bible (New Testament) says we can have a happy life. We are not called to bondage.
I'm not bored..just find the history of the origins of Islam kind of interesting, as it came after Christianity was rejected by Muhammed - an Arab. Hagar was Egyptian but was seen by God. Moses married an Ethiopian woman. In the NT the Ethiopian eunuch was shown scripture that testified to God and Jesus.
Not saying that Arabs are the same as Ethiopians but they were both not Hebrews/Jewish. And also remember Jesus Mary and Joseph took refuge in Egypt when they were threatened by King Herod, who was Roman but passed himself as Jewish.
Not saying that Arabs are the same as Ethiopians but they were both not Hebrews/Jewish. And also remember Jesus Mary and Joseph took refuge in Egypt when they were threatened by King Herod, who was Roman but passed himself as Jewish.
My depiction of Vashti being killed was colored by having watched "One Knight with the King" exercised a poetic license of Vashti being dethroned in the form of execution to influence the peril of the risk that Hadassah, otherwise known as Esther, found herself in when faced with 'breaking protocol.' This is not that much of a stretch considering it not illogical to think that, if Esther risked life and limb simply by approaching the King without being called, why would he be any kinder to a queen that refused to come when he did actually call her to come. All because I 'failed' to take time away from constructing the central message, the main point of my post, for 'precision.'
At any rate, it was a piece of meat that somebody found on bone to pick out of all of the context of the material of the intended message... which is now probably completely shredded because someone sniffed out a hanging sinew.
I'm not begrudging anyone of be bored. I mean, I become bored often, just not that bored to go back to a message I'd already read and pick at it, a month later.
Was Muhammed an Arab? Artaxerxes was Persian. I don't think that Arab. Is it?
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Scripture doesn’t say that she was killed, only that she no longer went before the king.
“If it pleases the king, let a royal decree go out from him, and let it be recorded in the laws of the Persians and the Medes, so that it will not be altered, that Vashti shall come no more before King Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal position to another who is better than she.”
Esther 1:19 NKJV
No it doesn’t make sense, since Rebecca was from a different era.
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What church group enslaves their women? This would not be a church (members), but a cult!
You need to give the verses you’re referring to.
I appreciate your intention to foster peaceful cooperation and mutual love amongst the peoples of the world. I respect your desire to inspire a deeper understanding of how humanity should cease dividing, fighting, and waging war.
However, unfortunately, some of your statements are not biblically correct.
The god of Islam is not the same Creator of Christianity. Islam claims that their Allah god has no son.
Thus, we who worship God through His Son Jesus Christ are not brothers and sisters from the same origin as Muslims.
1 John 2:23
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
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Surah An-Nisa Ayat 171
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Quran
Surah Al-Anam Ayat 101
[He is] Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing.
Quran
Surah Al-Ma'idah Ayat 72-75
They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.
Quran
Surah At-Taubah Ayat 30
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
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God the Father created all things through Jesus Christ, His Son.