To know the True God

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Jn 17:2-3

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

According to this passage of scripture, what comes first Knowing the True God or Eternal Life ?
 
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John 17 verses 2-3 ~ You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him. Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent.:)
 
According to this passage of scripture, what comes first Knowing the True God or Eternal Life ?

Jesus came to offer the earthly kingdom to the nation of Israel. Those for who this gospel applied were to trust that Jesus was their Messiah. They also were to keep the law. Upon resurrection, they would receive eternal life.

The gospel of grace that Paul was given for the gentiles required faith in Jesus's work on the cross to pay for sins. This results in being placed in his body and thus immediately receiving eternal life.

Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

There is a difference between the two groups as to when eternal life is obtained. However both groups require hearing before faith.

Rom_10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
 
According to this passage of scripture, what comes first Knowing the True God or Eternal Life ?

Jesus came to offer the earthly kingdom to the nation of Israel. Those for who this gospel applied were to trust that Jesus was their Messiah. They also were to keep the law. Upon resurrection, they would receive eternal life.

The gospel of grace that Paul was given for the gentiles required faith in Jesus's work on the cross to pay for sins. This results in being placed in his body and thus immediately receiving eternal life.

Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

There is a difference between the two groups as to when eternal life is obtained. However both groups require hearing before faith.

Rom_10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Huh ? I dont think you understood the question. Just look at Jn 17:3 and answer the question please.
 
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

This is not a sequential description of a process but the definition of a phrase. Eternal life might be defined as "knowing Christ".

know = ginōskō = to learn to know to come to know
 
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

This is not a sequential description of a process but the definition of a phrase. Eternal life might be defined as "knowing Christ".

know = ginōskō = to learn to know to come to know
When Christ gives eternal life it gives spiritual understanding and 1 Jn 5/20

20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
 
When Christ gives eternal life it gives spiritual understanding and 1 Jn 5/20

20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him
that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
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1 John 5 v 20 ~ We know that the Son of God is come and has given us understanding, so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
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Jn 17:2-3

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

According to this passage of scripture, what comes first Knowing the True God or Eternal Life ?
1.) What comes first is God's desire: 1Ti. 2:3-4

2.) Because of God’s desires, 1Ti. 2:3-4 God “seeks” ALL men. Rom. 1:18-21

3.) And because of God’s 1st seeking, every human who ever lived, starts their life out “knowing” God. Rom. 1:21

4.) “Therefore”, no man “not” coming to “saving faith” in Him has any excuse at all. Rom. 1:20

5.) It is men’s “choices” to suppress, reject and exchange the truth of God for a lie, He builds into every man who ever lived, choosing not to retain the knowledge of God any longer … that results in God’s consequences. See: “For this reason”, “Therefore”, “because” … in Rom. 1:18-32

6.) God will allow all those “headed for hell” to judge whether He was “Faithful” to get them everything they needed to come to saving faith in Him. Rom. 3:3-4 In every case, God will be fully justified in His actions, and every person believing differently will be proven to be a liar.

7.) Despite God’s desires 1Ti. 2:3-4, very “Few” men “Choose” to “receive a love of the truth so as to be saved” 2Th. 2:10-12, and thus to “eventually” receive “Faith in the truth” 2Th. 2:13 and be sealed “in Him” with the Holy Spirit. 2Th. 2:13, Mat. 7:7-12/Luk. 11:9-13, Eph. 1:13-14 God doesn’t always get what He desires. He states His desires, seeks all men and then lets men choose. Mat. 23:37, Luk. 13:34

8.) God’s “Second Seeking” of a “Few” men only applies to those who “choose” to receive a love of the truth. Joh. 4:23-24, 2Th. 2:10-13 God no longer “seeks” those who choose to reject “the love of the truth” that is offered to all men. Instead, all those rejecting what is offered receive a deluding influence, from God Himself, to believe lies are truth and the truth to be lies. 2Th. 2:11 All who reject the love of the truth will “Perish” 2Th. 2:10 and can never even see, let alone believe, the true gospel. 2Co. 4:3-4 Unless their choice in 2Th. 2:10-13 changes, and thus their ongoing “Fruits” pertaining to having received a love of the truth also change, there is no possible way for any of those making the wrong choice in 2Th. 2:10-13 to be saved.

9.) Only these, who made the correct choice in 2Th. 2:10, 13, and thus have the correct ongoing “Fruits” Mat. 7:15-20, 12:33, (And the rest of Mat. 7, as well), Mat. 13:23, Luk. 3:9, 6:43-44, 8:15, Joh. 15:8, … are the ones whom God “foreknew”, Rom. 8:29 Only these, whom He “Foreknew”, are “Predestined” to eventually hear Eph. 1:13-14 the correct gospel. As the rest cannot even see or hear it. 2Th. 2:10, 2Co. 4:3-4

10.) Only these will … eventually, arrive at saving “faith” in the “Truth” and will be sealed “In Him”, “In the Beloved”, “In Christ” with the Holy Spirit... eventually. Eph. 1:13-14, Mat. 7:7-12/Luk. 11:9-13, 2Th. 2:13
 
When Christ gives eternal life it gives spiritual understanding and 1 Jn 5/20

When one receives salvation (eternal life) through repenting and receiving the Holy Spirit baptism cleansing them of their sins, is just that: salvation. Spiritual understanding comes from the receiving of the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. Santification.

Read Paul's Epistles to fully understand this.
 
When one receives salvation (eternal life) through repenting and receiving the Holy Spirit baptism cleansing them of their sins, is just that: salvation. Spiritual understanding comes from the receiving of the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. Santification.

Read Paul's Epistles to fully understand this.
One cant do none of that until they know God. How you going to repent unto God and dont know God. Repentance comes after Eternal Life is given. Eternal life is Regeneration life. a person is dead to God when they are regenerated. Before that, all your religious efforts were dead works to a false god