Old Testament Israel was one thing under God; however, secular Israel today is quite another.
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The message is clear. You just refuse to see it.
"It's the Jooooos." Tale as old as time. I've personally seen the camps. I know what happens.
Jesus is not the only way. There are other way to salvation, especially the little golden calf, oh, let's all bow to the golden calf, because we threw gold in the fire, and the little golden calf just came out.
Let's all bow to the calf.
A political and religious system that persecute Jesus, Christians, that celebrate pedophile, sexual immorality, abortion, murdering, rubbing other people s homeland, that kicked refugees to Europe and America to change the western culture, ....yeah, let's support that with money, weapon, church teaching....shouting....
When Jesus was on the cross, the crowd was shouting, crucify Him, crucify Him, let's be that crowd today. Don't worry about following Jesus, just do everything opposite of Jesus teaching.
Do people really think it was the Jewish crowd that crucified Jesus? No, Jesus used that crowd to fulfill His plan. However, God will hold that crowd responsible for what they do, did.
Repent, when you still have time.
When Jesus was on the cross, the crowd was shouting, crucify Him, crucify Him, let's be that crowd today. Don't worry about following Jesus, just do everything opposite of Jesus teaching.
Do people really think it was the Jewish crowd that crucified Jesus? No, Jesus used that crowd to fulfill His plan. However, God will hold that crowd responsible for what they do, did.
Repent, when you still have time.
Now in Light of these different Israels, which one would you suppose has the Glorious future ? Remember, the prophets of the OT , though they used language steeped in Jewish tradition and understanding, yet it was said later of Peter that they really prophesied of the grace that would be shown to believers in Christ, the church. Lets read 1 Pet 1:9-11
9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
With this in mind, What are the Promises that seem to show a Glorious future for National Israel i.e Ezk 37:21-28..
Is that really National Israel, the physical descendants of Abraham in view here ?
I do not believe so, and I will show why in post to follow. 4
9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
With this in mind, What are the Promises that seem to show a Glorious future for National Israel i.e Ezk 37:21-28..
Is that really National Israel, the physical descendants of Abraham in view here ?
I do not believe so, and I will show why in post to follow. 4
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Thaddeus
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Again the word of the Lord came to me: 17“Son of man, when the people of Israel were living in their own land, they defiled it by their conduct and their actions. Their conduct was like a woman’s monthly uncleanness in my sight. 18;So I poured out my wrath on them because they had shed blood in the land and because they had defiled it with their idols. 19;I dispersed them among the nations, and they were scattered through the countries; I judged them according to their conduct and their actions. 20And wherever they went among the nations they profaned my holy name, for it was said of them, ‘These are the Lord’s people, and yet they had to leave his land.’ 21I had concern for my holy name, which the people of Israel profaned among the nations where they had gone.
22“Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.
24“‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. 28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God. Ezekiel 36:16-28
22“Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.
24“‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. 28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God. Ezekiel 36:16-28
Exactly, notice, new heart, clean water.... that's born again true Christians.
Jesus says to mark and nechodamius, who were both jews, unless born again, you will not see kingdom of God, Jesus is the way, no one get to the father except through Jesus, the way.
If Abraham s blood can save his offspring, then Jesus no need to come and die on cross. No need. Everyone try to marry Abraham offspring.
Dry bones... Israel will repent. In fact Israel is the only one that will have national repentance. Many people use that when they talk about the US, it's not talking about the US.
That's true, when Jesus 2nd coming, the entire nation of Israel (whoever left) will mourn, for the one they pierced. In Zechariah 12 10. Please read the entire book z to understand.
Jesus will fulfill the big plan, but He does not want us to be the crowd shouting "crucify him, crucify him".
Jesus want us to be like Mark, Paul, Jeremiah, to tell the truth, even the truth hurts.
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Thaddeus
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Well the verses clearly pertain to the nation of Israel. I agree with you, ye must be born again. And, if our sovereign God, desires to turn Israelites en masse to his son at a time yet to come, and they are therefore then born again, who is to say God cannot do it if he so wishes?
The prophecy of dry bones has already been fulfilled in Christ Jesus....He is the restoration!
You are correct. God can do whatever His plan, such as putting Jesus on the cross.
But we are not called to help putting Jesus on the cross.
Jesus 2nd coming will save the remnant of ethnic jews, but we are not called right now to help ethnic jews to persecute Christians, bomb people out of their homes, spreading immorality idol worshippings....
You mean America? Whole lot of Americans don't believe in Jesus. The Bible tells us the Jews have been blinded until the Gentiles come in. What is our excuse in America?
I assume you mean "robbing" when did that happen exactly?
Jesus still loves the Jewish people today, He is calling to them and He is calling them home.
THAT crowd, not every Jew in history. That's like black people demanding reparations today. God holds people responsible for their own sin.