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Revelation 18
19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
 
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Mathew 23
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
 
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Anchorite said:
The Promised Land, often termed Canaan, has its geographical borders defined in the Bible, notably from the "river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates" (Genesis 15:18-21) and specifically within Numbers 34:1-12, which details boundaries from the Dead Sea to the Mediterranean and north to Lebo-hamath. These areas roughly correspond to modern-day Israel, Palestine, and parts of Lebanon and Syria.
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Fulfilled thousands of years ago

And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand. There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass. Joshua 21:43-45​

Solomon and David ruled over the entire area promised to Abraham, from the Euphrates River to the Nile River

David smote also Hadadezer, the son of Rehob, king of Zobah, as he went to recover his border at the river Euphrates. 2 Samuel 8:3​
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And at that time Solomon held a feast, and all Israel with him, a great congregation, from the entering in of Hamath unto the river of Egypt, before the LORD our God, seven days and seven days, even fourteen days. 1 Kings 8:65​

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Anchorite said:
Theologically, God gave the promised land to Israel. They are not stealing land from anyone.
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Theologically, God promised to give the land to Christ

In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: Genesis 15:18​
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Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. Galatians 3:16​
 
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Anchorite said:
Too bad no Islamic nations seem to want the Palestinians.

All this talk of Israel forfeiting their land in 70 AD, and their return in 1948 not being prophetic, is just bad theology from some antisemite pastor.

Isaiah 66:8

Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? Shall a nation be brought forth in one moment? For as soon as Zion was in labor she brought forth her children.
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"Too bad no Islamic nations seem to want the Palestinians.'

Money can accomplish a lot.
 
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Aussie52 said:
Yes, but because of Israel's rejection of Christ, they forfeited their right to the Land and were cast out AD 70 by the Romans. There are numerous warnings that this could happen through Moses and the OT prophets and Jesus Himself.
Their return in 1948 has nothing to do with Bible prophecy. Upon gaining nationhood they expelled 750,000 Palestinians from the land (the Nakba) and have since then, continually tried to rid the Land of all Palestinians.
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There are no "Palestinians." They're Arabs.
 
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Anchorite said:
Too bad no Islamic nations seem to want the Palestinians.

All this talk of Israel forfeiting their land in 70 AD, and their return in 1948 not being prophetic, is just bad theology from some antisemite pastor.

Isaiah 66:8

Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? Shall a nation be brought forth in one moment? For as soon as Zion was in labor she brought forth her children.
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These people don't want to debate theology, politics, they don't ask if it is true, they only throw you a name, anti this, anti that....
Same as the crowd put Jesus on cross, they called Jesus the same name. They refuse to listen to the truth, the way, the life.
Aussie52 said:
Isaiah 66:8 was fulfilled when Israel returned from exile in Babylon.
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The prophecy has not been fulfilled is in Zachariah, Jesus 2nd coming. They (jews) will mourn for who they pierced.
 
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NightTwister said:
There are no "Palestinians." They're Arabs.
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That entire area is call Palestine, including arabs, jews, Christians, muslims..... a mix pot. Roman empire, then ottoman, then later British.

Then zionist and Darby, Scofield coordinated politics and religion around exactly the same time.
 
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brightfame52 said:
Lets take a look of how the jews over there hate Jesus Christ right now !
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Blinded for a time!! What was your excuse for hating Jesus before you came to be saved?? Jews don't hate Jesus any more than any other lost sinner. YOU are supposed to be praying they come to Christ. smh
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
Blinded for a time!! What was your excuse for hating Jesus before you came to be saved?? Jews don't hate Jesus any more than any other lost sinner. YOU are supposed to be praying they come to Christ. smh
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Bingo, actually u said it. They are lost sinners, they are not children of God, not until they accept Jesus as their Lord and savior. Therefore they are as pagan as Muslims, atheist, buddist.... they don't get to claim the ot land, which was for the children of God, YHVH, even God's very name points to Jesus. Look it up, the old Hebrew.
 
Churchgoer said:
The prophecy has not been fulfilled is in Zachariah, Jesus 2nd coming. They (jews) will mourn for who they pierced.
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Where does it say that? John explicitly said in John 19:36-37 that Zechariah 12:10 was fulfilled when the Roman soldier pierced Jesus' side. Revelation 1:7 is speaking of the entire world.
 
Churchgoer said:
That entire area is call Palestine, including arabs, jews, Christians, muslims..... a mix pot. Roman empire, then ottoman, then later British.

Then zionist and Darby, Scofield coordinated politics and religion around exactly the same time.
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They are Arabs living in what is now called Israel. They aren't a separate ethnic race.
 
Mystery Babylon is not a mystery, it's obvious. One more time will the 'great city' be destroyed. The mother of harlots.

Rev 8
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 ;And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
Blinded for a time!! What was your excuse for hating Jesus before you came to be saved?? Jews don't hate Jesus any more than any other lost sinner. YOU are supposed to be praying they come to Christ. smh
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While they blinded Paul says this about them who Love not Jesus Christ 1 Cor 16:22

22 If any [jew or gentile]man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.
 
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