Calvinism is Gospel !

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brightfame52 said:
I believe it is, the Rom 11 olive tree proves it to me

Same Place Abe and other heirs were looking for Heb 11

14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.

15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.

16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
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If anything? How you implied, would mean you are Jews, and not the church!

Gentiles have been grafted into the "blessings" of the Jews.

John the Baptist differentiated between the Church and OT believers.
John the Baptist did not live to be entered into the Church.

Here is what qualifies the difference...

The bride (Church) belongs to the bridegroom. The friend who attends the bridegroom (i.e. John the Baptist)​
waits and listens for him, and is full of joy when he hears the bridegroom’s voice. That joy is mine, and it ​
is now complete. John 3:29​
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OT saints will be friends of the Groom! Not the Bride of Christ!​

There will be resurrected Jews and Christians in eternity!
 
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p_rehbein said:
Good luck on that day when all appear before the Judgement Seat. I hope your courage of your convictions are as strong as mine. Oh, wait, they may not be since you could not answer my direct question to you.

Simple thought:

IF Calvins teachings are true, then I was predestined to NOT believe them.

If Calvins teachings are not true, then by free will and the spiritual teachings of the Holy Spirit, I reject them as flawed theology. Either way it will all be revealed on that day.
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On Judgement Day, Jesus will stand in my place.
 
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The 5 point T,U,L,I,P doctrines of Calvinism are wrong.. Simply wrong.. One needs to ignore a lot of the Bible to believe in the 5 pillars of Calvinism..

God did not create one person to burn in hell for eternity and create another person to have eternal life, Neither of them having any opportunity to have a different outcome.. If you think that somehow glorifies God then you have to have a distorted sense of greatness..
 
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Aussie52 said:
Where in the New Testament does it say you have 'Christ's righteousness'?
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Philippians 3:9
(Philippians 3:9) "And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:"

2 Corinthians 5:21
(2 Corinthians 5:21) "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him."
 
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Adstar said:
The 5 point T,U,L,I,P doctrines of Calvinism are wrong.. Simply wrong.. One needs to ignore a lot of the Bible to believe in the 5 pillars of Calvinism..

God did not create one person to burn in hell for eternity and create another person to have eternal life, Neither of them having any opportunity to have a different outcome.. If you think that somehow glorifies God then you have to have a distorted sense of greatness..
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[1Pe 2:7-8 KJV]
7 Unto you therefore which believe [he is] precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, [even to them] which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
 
Adstar said:
Philippians 3:9
(Philippians 3:9) "And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:"

2 Corinthians 5:21
(2 Corinthians 5:21) "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him."
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That would be the righteousness of 'God' not Christ.
 
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Adstar said:
The 5 point T,U,L,I,P doctrines of Calvinism are wrong.. Simply wrong.. One needs to ignore a lot of the Bible to believe in the 5 pillars of Calvinism..

God did not create one person to burn in hell for eternity and create another person to have eternal life, Neither of them having any opportunity to have a different outcome.. If you think that somehow glorifies God then you have to have a distorted sense of greatness..
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That's double-predestination, or hyper-Calvinism. That's a fringe belief you won't likely find here.
 
NightTwister said:
Are you Catholic? There believe in imparted, not imputed righteousness. They're wrong, as are you. 2 Cor 5:21.
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No, I am not Catholic. The Bible teaches both imputed and imparted righteousness. The first is our acceptance or right standing with God, the second is the out working of our sanctification or holiness.
 
Adstar said:
Don't you know The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are ONE.... :oops:

This is Christianity basics 101 man...
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The Bible mentions in many places the 'righteousness of God' in relation to the believer. It does not ever mention any righteousness of 'Christ' being imputed to the believer.
And yes, I believe in the Trinity.
 
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