How long have you been single?

[Lovette]

You sure do seem to like them straw man type arguments. You set them up, then you knock them down, but nobody else is saying those things you set up to knock down.

Just like nobody else is saying they are so desperate for marriage that they would either like to have a spouse or be allowed to die. You set that one up, then you knocked it down. But nobody else here was saying anything even remotely close to that.

I was only being reciprocal. That guy is the one who repeatedly deployed strawman tactics by insinuating me of demonzing marriage as inherently bad and idolatrous, and I've clarified that it all depends on the character of you and your partner; it's like the value of a smartphone is largely determined NOT by its case, screen, circuit, battery and other compotents, but by the contents and apps in it; the value of a bag, even a Gucci or a Hermès bag, is largely determined NOT by its own design and glamor, but by the contents it carries; or a more glaring example, an exquisite vintage jewelry box with encrusted gems and filigree, yet no jewels in it. That's what it is like when you desire for marriage while still in singlehood. Is it really that hard to understand?

 

[Lovette]

Each animal lived in community with other animals. But Adam was alone. It seems like God wanted Adam to recognize his aloneness before God before God created a wife for him. Perhaps God saw it as necessary for Adam to feel his need in order for the fulfillment to be actually satisfying.

If Adam and Eve had been created at the same time, this aspect of human community or companionship wouldn't have been as conspicuous. The man’s solitary existence was the only thing called “not good” in all of creation.

It is as good as you've made up. There's absolutely nothing mentioned about the pairings of animals. Adam was tasked to name the animals, which in biblical context symbolizes his authority over the animals, which further foreshadows the Messiah's authority over all nations. Good or not was determined by the Almighty God himself, not Adam or any circumstance. Adam felt none of what you assume he ought to feel, he wasn't like the monster demanding Dr. Frankenstein for a monster bride.

You fail to realize that Adam was not any orinary man, he was THE first human being, made in the very image of God, tending the Garden of Eden as its governor, and possibly tended and assisted by angels. Was God lonely in heaven? Did God the Father need Goddess the Mother? If not, then neither was Adam sulking in aloneness. This argument is invalid.

 

[Lovette]

Yeah, I did the exact same thing in Clark County in downtown Las Vegas, Nevada.

Was your wedding officaited by Elvis? If so, what happened in Vegas ought to stay in Vegas.

 

[Lovette]

Possibly because the men needed a LOT of help.

I will lift up my eyes to the hills—
From whence comes my help?
My help comes from the Lord,
Who made heaven and earth!

 

[Lovette]

If this is your definition of chit-chat then I would hate to see your idea of a contentious argument .

Seriously.... are you aware of how aggressive you are coming off? I assumed you knew but maybe you don't .

Not as aggressive as some, to whom marriage is cursed as a prison to enslave otherwise free spirits in thankless servitude; or others, to whom marriage is a trap to suck you dry and spit you out with nothing but despair; or an other focus group, to whom marriage is a civil right that must be made available to all loving unions, not only man with man, woman with woman, but also adult human with animal, AI, kid or themselves.

 

[Magenta]

You're absolitely right, I doubt it too, for it was God determined it was not good, not Adam himself! He was pretty happy and preoccupied with tending the garden. If you're burned with passion, that'd be you yourself being taken over my your own lust of flesh, not the will of God.

And? The reason was not to be alone.

 

[Lovette]

And? The reason was not to be alone.

The point is that Adam himself never complained for being alone, he probably preferrred to be alone, since right after he ate the forbidden fruit, he hid from God and later subtly accused God for giving him Eve.

 

[Magenta]

The point is that Adam himself never complained for being alone, he probably preferrred to be alone, since right after he ate the forbidden fruit, he hid from God and later subtly accused God for giving him Eve.

LOL more of your contradictions: do what God wants, you say, then uphold Adam's view against God's.
Or more accurately, what you fantasize Adam's view to have been. <= prior to Eve having been made.

 

[Lovette]

LOL more of your contradictions: do what God wants, you say, then uphold Adam's view against God's.
Or more accurately, what you fantasize Adam's view to have been. <= prior to Eve having been made.

What contradition? What "Adam's view"? Prior to Eve having been made, there was no "Adam's view". "No worthy and equal partner" was God's view, not Adam's. I fantasized nothing, while whoever suggests or implies that all these other animals were paried up and provoking Adam's envy is truly fantasizing.

 

[RodColeman]

Did either allow fornication? And why did God even create Eve for Adam, knowing she'd cause him sin, as Adam latter accused her and subtly accused God of bringing her to him?

So now Adam and Eve fornicated when they had sex as husband and wife before sin entered the world? Huh? Adam chose to sin. Eve did not force him to sin.

 

[RodColeman]

It is as good as you've made up. There's absolutely nothing mentioned about the pairings of animals. Adam was tasked to name the animals, which in biblical context symbolizes his authority over the animals, which further foreshadows the Messiah's authority over all nations. Good or not was determined by the Almighty God himself, not Adam or any circumstance. Adam felt none of what you assume he ought to feel, he wasn't like the monster demanding Dr. Frankenstein for a monster bride.

You fail to realize that Adam was not any orinary man, he was THE first human being, made in the very image of God, tending the Garden of Eden as its governor, and possibly tended and assisted by angels. Was God lonely in heaven? Did God the Father need Goddess the Mother? If not, then neither was Adam sulking in aloneness. This argument is invalid.

"There's absolutely nothing mentioned about the pairings of animals." You're right, there's not. So, uh......how did these animals repoduce, exactly?

Also, God said it wasn't good for Adam to be alone, remember?

 

[Lovette]

So now Adam and Eve fornicated when they had sex as husband and wife before sin entered the world? Huh? Adam chose to sin. Eve did not force him to sin.

You're strawmanning. We don't know whether they did it or not, but since the first thing they did outside of Eden was doing it, while nothing about it was written in the narrative of Gen. 2-3, more likely than not, they didn't do it. They were supposed to do it, to "become one flesh", yet they ate the forbidden fruit instead, that wrecked God's plan for them to "subdue and fill the earth".

 

[Lovette]

"There's absolutely nothing mentioned about the pairings of animals." You're right, there's not. So, uh......how did these animals repoduce, exactly?

You're as erroneous as the Sadduccees, not knowing the Scripture. Death was the wages of sin, spread into the world through Adam after the Fall. There was no death in Eden, therefore no need for reproduction.

Also, God said it wasn't good for Adam to be alone, remember?

But Adam himself didn't say it, nor was he aware of it.

 

[Lynx]

I was only being reciprocal. That guy is the one who repeatedly deployed strawman tactics by insinuating me of demonzing marriage as inherently bad and idolatrous, and I've clarified that it all depends on the character of you and your partner; it's like the value of a smartphone is largely determined NOT by its case, screen, circuit, battery and other compotents, but by the contents and apps in it; the value of a bag, even a Gucci or a Hermès bag, is largely determined NOT by its own design and glamor, but by the contents it carries; or a more glaring example, an exquisite vintage jewelry box with encrusted gems and filigree, yet no jewels in it. That's what it is like when you desire for marriage while still in singlehood. Is it really that hard to understand?

It's hard to decide which is worse, your syntax or your similes. Phones don't work that way, and neither does the word insinuate.

 

[RodColeman]

You're as erroneous as the Sadduccees, not knowing the Scripture. Death was the wages of sin, spread into the world through Adam after the Fall. There was no death in Eden, therefore no need for reproduction.

But Adam himself didn't say it, nor was he aware of it.

Well, yes, you're right, it doesn't explicitly say they had sex in the Garden. However, in 1:28, we see God tell them to "be fruitful and multiply" and populate the Earth. Was there a way for Adam and Eve to do that without having sex?

And what does it matter if Adam was unaware of it, or didn't say it? Maybe the words of God have more weight than those of the puny human He created? The same God who created marriage and sex in the first place, as part of his original design for a perfect world?

 

[Lovette]

It's hard to decide which is worse, your syntax or your similes. Phones don't work that way, and neither does the word insinuate.

If a phone has no internet connection, no cell service, no valuable contents stored in it, it's no better than a paperweight, to most people.

 

[Lovette]

Well, yes, you're right, it doesn't explicitly say they had sex in the Garden. However, in 1:28, we see God tell them to "be fruitful and multiply" and populate the Earth. Was there a way for Adam and Eve to do that without having sex?

You do know that Eden was just a small speck on the whole earth, right? The most probable scenario is, they were supposed to consummate their marriage, but they ate the forbidden fruit first, and they abandoned their God given mission to be like God themselves, that's the problem.

And what does it matter if Adam was unaware of it, or didn't say it? Maybe the words of God have more weight than those of the puny human He created? The same God who created marriage and sex in the first place, as part of his original design for a perfect world?

It matters because since you acknowledge God as the creator of marriage and sex, it is God himself who joins man and woman together into marriage; it was God who created Eve and brought her to Adam, not Adam realizing his aloneness and pursuing or demanding for a mate. Therefore it is unbiblical to desire for marriage while single, and acting on your own to chase girls accord without God bringing anybody to you, doing so undermines God's authority.

 

[Lynx]

If a phone has no internet connection, no cell service, no valuable contents stored in it, it's no better than a paperweight, to most people.

All that can be easily remedied. It's much harder to change the phone's hardware, and if it doesn't have the right hardware it can't handle the latest networks and apps.

Your similes need work and I really hope you don't work at an AT&T store.

 

[Lynx]

Actually scratch that. I do hope you work at an AT&T store, and please tell me which one so I can profit from it.

 

[Lovette]

All that can be easily remedied. It's much harder to change the phone's hardware, and if it doesn't have the right hardware it can't handle the latest networks and apps.

Your similes need work and I really hope you don't work at an AT&T store.

The phone is a medium that connects you with the outside world as much as marriage unites you and your partner.