We will get nothing if the Democrats are elected.........But maybe a "Trump" will be elected in the future.......Insecurity for the terrorists is a good deal.We spent a ton of money to bomb Iran, what have we gotten in return?
We will get nothing if the Democrats are elected.........But maybe a "Trump" will be elected in the future.......Insecurity for the terrorists is a good deal.We spent a ton of money to bomb Iran, what have we gotten in return?
Have you responded Israel fighting a seven front war? Are you addressing one and ignoring the other six? You mean hiding behind women and children. Putting them at risk by setting up shop in schools and hospitals. Making them targets. Also using little boys and some little girls as human mine sweepers with their bodies and giving them keys to heaven prior to sending them off to be blown up.I do not usually respond to these "human shield" arguments, because I understand them to be self defeating.
Right right it is all Israel's fault. Blame the Jews for the gas ovens WW2.The fact that they are used already shows that the IDF is running low on moral talking points.
Facts do not care about emotions and we can logically build gas ovens to gas Jews.You repeat them often, so I will now respond.
Lets try a more logical and less emotional approach.
They are cowards and watch Glory, the movie, how they carried flags to their death and did not hide behind women and children.Consider that you are a ordinary dad in Southern Lebanon, but your village is being carpet bombed.
Your instinct is to defend your family home and now that Hezbollah is in the area you have access to pretty good weapons.
So you are now in Israel's eyes a terrorist militant.
Would you bother to wave a Hezbollah flag just so the enemy will not call you a "coward"?
I am not going to look up all your claims on my night off because there is a lot of misinfo out there and Hamas, Hezbollah discredits themselves when they resort to such tactics as this, and if you vote in the Nazis, then you get what you got. It is not impossible for Palestinians to peacefully coexist and prosper in Israel.They are already in your country with tanks and planes.
They obviously do not wish to die either and you owe them nothing.
Now lets consider the Israeli perspective.
Lets say that you want to take out Hezbollah operatives but you genuinely wish to save civilians.
Would you be using bombs and missiles in crowded places, or would you consider other options?
How about Mossad agents in Lebanon? Selling RFID tagged Hezbollah uniforms? Satellite surveillance and small drones? Poison food in army supply lines?
Defense against what? They can have peace with Israel. They do not want it. Besides, the Bible predicts the enemies of Israel will be destroyed.Iran has engaged multiple countries and caused widespread damage in their defense effort.
Ignoring population differences? Multiple wives in Muslim sects with multiple children?Use your trusted sources to find out how many civilians they have killed.
Back to when? How bout 1935? Was it 6 million Jews, including helpless women and children? The Mufti, the muslim 13th Waffen Mountain Division or the SS. 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg. .Now compare that number to Israels civilian victims.
Overall one of the better posts i have read here.Israels objectives are not what you have been led to believe.
The "Greater Israel" badge on the IDF uniforms should tell you that much.
The shame is on you!You should view all nations as equally guilty and you would be much better off in understanding great power politics.
It isn’t when your bias is towards Terrorists, FOR Sure!As you were the first to mention Hamas using civilians as shields, the burden of proof lies with you.
As for any Palestinian narrative, Big Brother here at the Forum appears biased towards Israel.
I posted a lengthy piece on the Nakbar of 1948. The post went off for 'approval' and has not been seen since.
So, any fair discussion on the Israeli/Palestinian crises is not possible.
They don't get it right away like they are carrying themselves away with in their propaganda, but let them think it. They have to comply with their surrender on two very critical points, opening the Strait of Hormuz and ending their nuclear shia doomsday program and turning over and having their entire stockpile degraded in front of their eyes with the IAEA as witnesses.I get that $300 billion is in Iran's interest, and recognizing Iran's control over the Strait is in their interest. What I don't get is what was the US interest? We spent a ton of money to bomb Iran, what have we gotten in return? I get that the damage to the oil market will cause a global depression and famine, but was that the goal for the US?
Have you responded Israel fighting a seven front war?
So you prefer that Mr Trump green lights the Iranian regime to kill 100,000 of its own citizens, after telling said citizens that they should revolt because the Cavalry is on the way. How humanitarian.Trump has more humanity and sense than you do
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I know that you are full of bitterness and resentment against Israel, but why do you have to push a false narrative about the Iraq war? It was not Israel who lied about WMD. It was expat Iraqis who wanted to get back in power after Saddam was removed. And Bush and Blair were happy to go in. So were the vast majority of Iraqis. The problem is the way that Rumsfeld dealt with the peace after the war. He refused to allow the American forces to restore proper order to the country. Unlike the way America and the allies rebuilt Germany and Japan, America failed miserably to restore order to Iraq.Oh Yes.
Aggressive mob aren't they?
Most countries have to get on with their neighbors to survive but "Israel" thinks it has the back-up of the American military and does not try.
Do you understand that whenever there is a war there is always many false stories around to shame the enemy or to rally troops against them?
Remember the "weapons of mass destruction"?
That was Israeli "intelligence".
We fought the war on Iraq for "Israel", and the Israeli death toll was zero.
....and still that number keeps getting bigger.kill 100,000 of its own citizens
As you were the first to mention Hamas using civilians as shields, the burden of proof lies with you.
As for any Palestinian narrative, Big Brother here at the Forum appears biased towards Israel.
I posted a lengthy piece on the Nakbar of 1948. The post went off for 'approval' and has not been seen since.
So, any fair discussion on the Israeli/Palestinian crises is not possible.
And Mr Trump, who knows nothing about the real world and warfare, condemns Israel for defending itself.
Unfortunately, Big brother has not approved my post.I would be interested to see what you have on 1948 if you don't mind.
If Mr Trump has had a victory, I'd hate to see what defeat looks like.I am not sure that you get it.
Trump has had a "victory" that leaves him with very few options.
According to the latest reports, the $300 billion is fake news. It never made sense. While the "deal" is pathetic, Iran's nuclear ambitions suffered a severe setback because of the bombing. There was also the elimination of many who committed crimes against humanity. They got the martyrdom that they longed for. A good deal of Iran's military capability was destroyed.I get that $300 billion is in Iran's interest, and recognizing Iran's control over the Strait is in their interest. What I don't get is what was the US interest? We spent a ton of money to bomb Iran, what have we gotten in return? I get that the damage to the oil market will cause a global depression and famine, but was that the goal for the US?
I am going to sneak into Iran so I can hear the Gospel. Iran preaches, teaches the Gospel . No need to hide in a hole like we need to in THE USA.
SARCASM.
I agree there has been so much fake news around this thing and you have to blame Trump for that. He could have kept quiet, he could have said they would have a big announcement on Friday, he could have done many things but instead as usual he stokes the fires of fake news.According to the latest reports, the $300 billion is fake news. It never made sense. While the "deal" is pathetic, Iran's nuclear ambitions suffered a severe setback because of the bombing. There was also the elimination of many who committed crimes against humanity. They got the martyrdom that they longed for. A good deal of Iran's military capability was destroyed.
I don't know why Mr Trump took the pressure off Iran. There may be something behind the scenes that forced his hand. One day, all will be made clear. For now, America looks weak, Mr Trump is once again "TACO", once again he negotiates conditions without including an affected party and once again abuses anyone who dares to disagree with him. And this is making America great?