How long have you been single?

[Lovette]

Right, so His example doesn't qualify under your definition.

His example is a match made in heaven!

 

[Magenta]

But it was perfectly reasonable to assume so, since Adam did accuse Eve of causing him to sin. Besides, men are usually more insterested in things than people, Adam was tasked to tend the garden, he had no idea of any other human being, since there wasn't any, why and how would he feel alone?

It was God who said it was not good for him to be alone, regardless of how Adam felt or what he thought of it. Get it?

Ah, I guess you prefer your hypothetical fantasy version...

 

[Lovette]

It was God who said it was not good for him to be alone, regardless of how Adam felt or what he thought of it. Get it?

Ah, I guess you prefer your hypothetical fantasy version...

Of course it was God, and I never refuted that. What are we even arguing about?

 

[Lovette]

It was God who said it was not good for him to be alone, regardless of how Adam felt or what he thought of it. Get it?

Ah, I guess you prefer your hypothetical fantasy version...

Look, the real consequential, hypothetical fantasy version is that Adam seeing all those animals paired up and mating with one another, and he'd got nobody, that provoked his envy and self pity, and for that God made him a mate. Everything I'd posted was to debunk that.

 

[RodColeman]

He did. Celibacy was a gift.

Uh, Jesus said not everyone can accept the calling of lifelong celibacy.

 

[RodColeman]

This statement is purely hypothetical and imaginary, when such "another Christian you share mutual attraction with" is nothing but a fictional figure to buttress your argument. That is a house not even built on sand, but on thin air. What would you do when there's no such person in your local church, only old retired seniors?

So you don't believe a healthy and happy romantic relationship or marriage among Christians is a real thing. And you say this as a single person who's never been married. Huh?

 

[Kainos]

Only is it abstract when you're yet single.

This is like seeing a picturesque spot in a distant location on Instagram and dreaming of yourself being there, yet you have no map, no guide, no money, no time, no transport, and when I point this out, you accuse me of trashing that spot as "abstract". Yeah, that place itself may not be abstract, but it's abstract to you. The right and reasonable reaction is to wake up.

In your own words, you said marriage itself was just an abstract concept, a neutral institution, and now you've changed your tune.

Have we established some consensus or are you contradicting yourself? Don't answer a rhetorical question.

What are you even talking about? Don't you see that the point is that no man's bothering with it? You can google similar speed dating or match making events in some large cities over here, similar outcomes, overwhelmingly women, very few men.

I thought it would've been painfully obvious, given the theme is abstraction.

I was drawing a parallel to identify and highlight the similarities between two distinct subjects. You know, a conceptual comparison, to help gain a measure of an abstract talking point by relating it to something else.

In simple terms. A dating statistic is as trivial as some saying from the Prophet Muhammad. They both set down a ratio of 50 women for every 1 man.

Nevermind.

 

[Lynx]

Look, the real consequential, hypothetical fantasy version is that Adam seeing all those animals paired up and mating with one another, and he'd got nobody, that provoked his envy and self pity, and for that God made him a mate. Everything I'd posted was to debunk that.

The root problem is you are seeing a problem, and in trying to counter it you are making another problem.

The problem you are seeing is that some people idolize marriage. This is a fact. Some people even idolize it so much that they will commit suicide if they get divorced, because they consider their lives to be over.

But in preaching against this problem you have gone so far the other way that you have made another problem. You are vilifying those who want to find a spouse. That is also wrong, and directly against what the Bible says.

The problem you saw is not going to go away, and the problem you're creating is not helping anything.

 

[Lynx]

What compounds this problem you're creating, and what is making a personal hell for you, is that you seem to be assuming everybody here idolizes marriage. (Well... JohnDB does, but we try to ignore him. He is a devout misogynist.)

I certainly don't idolize marriage, but you speak to me as though you think IIam propounding it as the only true way.

You are preaching a message that nobody here needs.

 

[Lovette]

Uh, Jesus said not everyone can accept the calling of lifelong celibacy.

Then don't and try your luck.

So you don't believe a healthy and happy romantic relationship or marriage among Christians is a real thing. And you say this as a single person who's never been married. Huh?

Real or not, ask yourself, is that what Christ died for?

 

[Lovette]

In your own words, you said marriage itself was just an abstract concept, a neutral institution, and now you've changed your tune.

Have we established some consensus or are you contradicting yourself? Don't answer a rhetorical question.

How have I changed my tune? If you're single, how is marriage more than an abstract concept to you? Your parents and other people's marriages are their own, their love stories are their own. As long as you're without a partner and a relationship to substantiate, marriage stays an abstract concept, a talking point, just like that Instagram picture.

I thought it would've been painfully obvious, given the theme is abstraction.

I was drawing a parallel to identify and highlight the similarities between two distinct subjects. You know, a conceptual comparison, to help gain a measure of an abstract talking point by relating it to something else.

In simple terms. A dating statistic is as trivial as some saying from the Prophet Muhammad. They both set down a ratio of 50 women for every 1 man.

Nevermind.

I do mind the gap, between what I reported as a real phenomenon, and what you had in mind as a sarcasm. Besides, those women showed up on their own, Muhammad enslaved his. There is no parallel at all.

 

[Lovette]

The root problem is you are seeing a problem, and in trying to counter it you are making another problem.

The problem you are seeing is that some people idolize marriage. This is a fact. Some people even idolize it so much that they will commit suicide if they get divorced, because they consider their lives to be over.

But in preaching against this problem you have gone so far the other way that you have made another problem. You are vilifying those who want to find a spouse. That is also wrong, and directly against what the Bible says.

The problem you saw is not going to go away, and the problem you're creating is not helping anything.

The conundrum is that the path to marriage is dating, yet modern dating is what's really directly against what the bible says, especially dating apps, where everyone is strictly judged by their appearances and profiles, and by design, such apps greatly favor short term hookups and disfavor long term commitments. If that's how you wanna find a spouse, and you think that's biblical, I really don't know what bible you're reading.

 

[Lynx]

The conundrum is that the path to marriage is dating, yet modern dating is what's really directly against what the bible says, especially dating apps, where everyone is strictly judged by their appearances and profiles, and by design, such apps greatly favor short term hookups and disfavor long term commitments. If that's how you wanna find a spouse, and you think that's biblical, I really don't know what bible you're reading.

Then stay off the dating apps. Duh!

I've never been on dating apps and people don't judge me like you think they are judging you.

And if you are preaching so hard against looking for a spouse, what are you doing on those dating apps anyway?

 

[Lynx]

The conundrum is that the path to marriage is dating, yet modern dating is what's really directly against what the bible says, especially dating apps, where everyone is strictly judged by their appearances and profiles, and by design, such apps greatly favor short term hookups and disfavor long term commitments. If that's how you wanna find a spouse, and you think that's biblical, I really don't know what bible you're reading.

(...where everyone is strictly judged by their...) Makes you sound like women have rejected you. A lot.

 

[Lynx]

By the way your response time sucks eggs. If you really want to debate stuff here, you need to be snappy.

 

[Lovette]

(...where everyone is strictly judged by their...) Makes you sound like women have rejected you. A lot.

You don't know me at all, pal. You know, comparison is the thief of joy, but nothing else is the thief of dopamine, the movitation hormone. Without a healthy baseline level of it, everythnig feels dull, nothing feels interesting.

 

[Lynx]

You don't know me at all, pal. You know, comparison is the thief of joy, but nothing else is the thief of dopamine, the movitation hormone. Without a healthy baseline level of it, everythnig feels dull, nothing feels interesting.

I don't know anything about you except what you have posted on the forum. And what you have posted sure makes it look like a lot of girls have rejected you.

 

[Lovette]

Then stay off the dating apps. Duh!

I've never been on dating apps and people don't judge me like you think they are judging you.

And if you are preaching so hard against looking for a spouse, what are you doing on those dating apps anyway?

What makes you think I am on it? Do I need to try and get stuck on a slot machine to know it's bad for you?

 

[Lynx]

What makes you think I am on it? Do I need to try and get stuck on a slot machine to know it's bad for you?

If you have never been on them, how do you know how people judge there?

I have no idea how people are judged, because I have never been on them. But you seem to know a lot about it...

 

[Lovette]

I don't know anything about you except what you have posted on the forum. And what you have posted sure makes it look like a lot of girls have rejected you.

Or how about it looks like I've never bothered with any girl at all? Why would I, when everybody is constantly glued to their screens?