Calvinism is Gospel !
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Thats to Gods elect People, and they didnt choose to be elect. It has nothing at all to do with Salvation
Calvin had an inverted Flip Wilson effect? "The Holy Spirit made me do it!"
This might be made into a plaque and placed on my wall someday.
We are witnessing to it right here.
Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
but whoever hates correction is stupid.
Proverbs 12:1
but whoever hates correction is stupid.
Proverbs 12:1
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I answered the question. as for Christ, remember it id BY HIS WORDS that we shall be judged, be sure to follow him and not a man made false doctrine. as for the attitude mine was correct to denounce your false accusation here i quote you directly:
"So, even with your name of 2Christ, you don't believe that Christ alone is Savior (even though He is clearly identified as such in Scripture), but instead, a response is required from people to become saved, bypassing Him? If so, wouldn't that mean He isn't the Savior?"
Start with the beginner verse, John 3 16.
Cross reference to Jesus last super. And entire Bible every time a blood covenant is mentioned.
The blessings of the covenantal Blood in Christ Death doesnt have to be accepted, it efficaciously produces its effects Rev 5:9-10
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood[of the covenant] out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
You sound like if one doesnt accept it, they wont benefit from it, thats not right if that's what you meant.
Thread is about Calvinism. You don’t think the miserable life and personality of John Calvin are relevant? It is good to know about the man upon whom the theology is based.
Its about the Gospel, Calvinism is just a scoff men have put upon it, but its purely scriptural, it has nothing to do with the life of calvin
Calvinism is not the gospel. I have already proven how unscriptural TULIP is. Calvinism has much to do with the kind of person John Calvin was.
Yes it is, you will see on Judgment day. You should be looking at the scripture support for the acronym TULIP, instead of complaining about some mans life
Accepting Jesus blood is an outcome of His saving grace.
For anyone who rejecting of Jesus, they are not in the covenant with Jesus, not until they accepting Jesus as Lord and savior.
Believing in Jesus is the outcome
See now you making acceptance the deciding factor on whether or not the blood of the covenant is effective. Thats works
Reformed adherents do generally like to hide the historical truth regarding John Calvin.
He was indeed a tyrant in Geneva and this is well documented even how he treated his own parishioners.
You face a logical dilemma: Christ cannot be THE (singular) Savior and yet salvation still be dependent upon something, anything, that man must do to secure it outside of it being completely from Him. These are two mutually exclusive doctrines - it is logically impossible both are true. You say you believe that Christ is Savior, yet by making salvation dependent upon any of man's actions - which you said by stating that to become saved requires man's response - you effectively remove Christ as Savior who alone grants salvation without contribution from anyone else and is given as a completely free gift.
If you find this post upsetting to your fragile sense of propriety, then don't bother to reply.
[Tit 3:5-6 KJV]
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Mark 1:14,15
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the Kingdom of God is at hand. Repent ye and believe the Gospel.”
Jesus commanded people to do something, in fact two things: (1) repent (2) believe the gospel.
Romans 10:9,10
that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Yes, we are saved purely by grace, not by works, but this does not mean we have no conditions to meet. We must confess and believe. That is not working for salvation, that is choosing to comply with a required condition.
We do not suddenly get zapped by God into salvation, without us hearing and responding to the gospel.
Ephesians 2:8,9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Romans 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
The phrases "purely saved by grace" and "conditions to meet" are altogether at odds with one another. If conditions must be met, salvation cannot be solely of grace.
read the words of Jesus carefully cameroni you need to, did Jesus set conditions for salvation,? you bet he he did. you have to find the text I wont give it to you yet perhaps later. ill write a post on it most likely
I understand that you are trying to be helpful, but before we examine the words of Jesus and scripture as a whole, it is important to establish certain truths. So let's begin here:
Can salvation be both solely by grace and based upon conditions that must be fulfilled by the individual?
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