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Thaddeus said:
Im unsure why exactly you are quoting from the bible. Where this subject is concerned you keep wanting to theologise to overturn the plain words of it. So, by that rule, nothing you quote can be taken as reliable
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You are blind to the scriptures because your head has been filled by Zionism and Anti-Christ Jews
 
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WayneNSO said:
That was fulfilled in Christ, plus I was to lazy to check if it was Ezekiel since you never referenced the book lol
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I assume you believe the following was fulfilled in Christ too. Perhaps you can explain:

In those days and at that time,
when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,
2 I will gather all nations
and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat.[<a
There I will put them on trial
for what they did to my inheritance, my people Israel,
because they scattered my people among the nations
and divided up my land.
3&nbsp;They cast lots for my people
and traded boys for prostitutes;
they sold girls for wine to drink.
4&nbsp;“Now what have you against me, Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia? Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done. 5&nbsp;For you took my silver and my gold and carried off my finest treasures to your temples.[<a 6&nbsp;You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem to the Greeks, that you might send them far from their homeland.

7&nbsp;“See, I am going to rouse them out of the places to which you sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. 8&nbsp;I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Judah, and they will sell them to the Sabeans, a nation far away.” The Lord has spoken.

9&nbsp;Proclaim this among the nations:
Prepare for war!
Rouse the warriors!
Let all the fighting men draw near and attack.
10&nbsp;Beat your plowshares into swords
and your pruning hooks into spears.
Let the weakling say,
“I am strong!”
11&nbsp;Come quickly, all you nations from every side,
and assemble there.
Bring down your warriors, Lord!
12&nbsp;“Let the nations be roused;
let them advance into the Valley of Jehoshaphat,
for there I will sit
to judge all the nations on every side.
13&nbsp;Swing the sickle,
for the harvest is ripe.
Come, trample the grapes,
for the winepress is full
and the vats overflow—
so great is their wickedness!”
14&nbsp;Multitudes, multitudes
in the valley of decision!
For the day of the Lord is near
in the valley of decision.
15&nbsp;The sun and moon will be darkened,
and the stars no longer shine.
16&nbsp;The Lord will roar from Zion
and thunder from Jerusalem;
the earth and the heavens will tremble.
But the Lord will be a refuge for his people,
a stronghold for the people of Israel.

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17&nbsp;“Then you will know that I, the Lord your God,
dwell in Zion, my holy hill.
Jerusalem will be holy;
never again will foreigners invade her.
18&nbsp;“In that day the mountains will drip new wine,
and the hills will flow with milk;
all the ravines of Judah will run with water.
A fountain will flow out of the Lord’s house
and will water the valley of acacias.
19&nbsp;But Egypt will be desolate,
Edom a desert waste,
because of violence done to the people of Judah,
in whose land they shed innocent blood.
20&nbsp;Judah will be inhabited forever
and Jerusalem through all generations.
21&nbsp;Shall I leave their innocent blood unavenged?
No, I will not.”
The Lord dwells in Zion! Joel3
 
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Revelation 11
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
 
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Thaddeus said:
7&nbsp;“See, I am going to rouse them out of the places to which you sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. 8&nbsp;I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Judah, and they will sell them to the Sabeans, a nation far away.” The Lord has spoken.
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Do you seriously think that in the future that people will be sold as slaves to Judah, who will in turn sell them to the Sabeans. In other words slave trading. You have a seriously sick mind if you think that.
 
Thaddeus said:
I assume you believe the following was fulfilled in Christ too. Perhaps you can explain:

In those days and at that time,
when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,
2&nbsp;I will gather all nations
and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat.[<a
There I will put them on trial
for what they did to my inheritance, my people Israel,
because they scattered my people among the nations
and divided up my land.
3&nbsp;They cast lots for my people
and traded boys for prostitutes;
they sold girls for wine to drink.
4&nbsp;“Now what have you against me, Tyre and Sidon and all you regions of Philistia? Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done. 5&nbsp;For you took my silver and my gold and carried off my finest treasures to your temples.[<a 6&nbsp;You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem to the Greeks, that you might send them far from their homeland.

7&nbsp;“See, I am going to rouse them out of the places to which you sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. 8&nbsp;I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Judah, and they will sell them to the Sabeans, a nation far away.” The Lord has spoken.

9&nbsp;Proclaim this among the nations:
Prepare for war!
Rouse the warriors!
Let all the fighting men draw near and attack.
10&nbsp;Beat your plowshares into swords
and your pruning hooks into spears.
Let the weakling say,
“I am strong!”
11&nbsp;Come quickly, all you nations from every side,
and assemble there.
Bring down your warriors, Lord!
12&nbsp;“Let the nations be roused;
let them advance into the Valley of Jehoshaphat,
for there I will sit
to judge all the nations on every side.
13&nbsp;Swing the sickle,
for the harvest is ripe.
Come, trample the grapes,
for the winepress is full
and the vats overflow—
so great is their wickedness!”
14&nbsp;Multitudes, multitudes
in the valley of decision!
For the day of the Lord is near
in the valley of decision.
15&nbsp;The sun and moon will be darkened,
and the stars no longer shine.
16&nbsp;The Lord will roar from Zion
and thunder from Jerusalem;
the earth and the heavens will tremble.
But the Lord will be a refuge for his people,
a stronghold for the people of Israel.

​

17&nbsp;“Then you will know that I, the Lord your God,
dwell in Zion, my holy hill.
Jerusalem will be holy;
never again will foreigners invade her.
18&nbsp;“In that day the mountains will drip new wine,
and the hills will flow with milk;
all the ravines of Judah will run with water.
A fountain will flow out of the Lord’s house
and will water the valley of acacias.
19&nbsp;But Egypt will be desolate,
Edom a desert waste,
because of violence done to the people of Judah,
in whose land they shed innocent blood.
20&nbsp;Judah will be inhabited forever
and Jerusalem through all generations.
21&nbsp;Shall I leave their innocent blood unavenged?
No, I will not.”
The Lord dwells in Zion! Joel3
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Thats to come, to understand the bible you have to know the difference between Israel and Judah in the prophecies. Notice it says Edom will be a desolate waste? Thats your precious Nation of Israel formed by the UN not God
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Do you seriously think that in the future that people will be sold as slaves to Judah, who will in turn sell them to the Sabeans. In other words slave trading. You have a seriously sick mind if you think that.
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You could always comment on the whole chapter and explain your view which I assume is, it was fulfilled in Christ
 
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