Calvinism is Gospel !

[Aussie52]

Oh? Where have you been? I am making specific claims about specific people. Get with the program.
Lying, slander, blasphemy etc are common occurrences with these people.

I could make the same claim about Calvinists. Making God the cause of sin. Unjustly picking some out for salvation and sending others to hell without them having any choice in the matter. This I believe to be slander and blasphemy against the nature of God.
Peace.

 

[Magenta]

I could make the same claim about Calvinists. Making God the cause of sin. Unjustly picking some out for salvation and sending others to hell without them having any choice in the matter. This I believe to be slander and blasphemy against the nature of God.
Peace.

Psshhh. I am not a Calvinist. They even lie about and slander Calvin and don't care. Anything is fodder for their hatred.

Do you agree that for God to act unilaterally would make Him an unjust tyrannical
monster kidnapping people against their so called free will? That is the type of thing
some of these free willers say. They contradict and deny Scripture and slander those
who uphold it. We have even been told that divine intervention/God is not necessary.
in the process of coming to believe. That is about as far from Scripture truth as one can get.
They tell us God is unfair if He reveals Himself differently from one person to the next.
You know what? That sort of ignorance makes me wonder if they have ever even read the Bible.

 

[Genez]

I would like to see a Scripture verse articulating the free will of the natural man,

The natural man is devoid of God's grace.

God's grace enables free will.

We were all natural men before we were saved.

 

[Magenta]

As It Is Written

 

[Genez]

Doesn't mean nothing, he was dead physically after he died. How did he receive life to become physically alive again ?

He was being spiritually alive while physically dead.
You keep missing the importance of that life.

The life we have been given is destined to reign inside our resurrection body just like the Lord's.
Our physical life is like a rental car.
A car that we do not own, but are given to use until we reach our destination.

Even though we are physically alive?

​

I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but ​

Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh ​

I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave ​

Himself for me.​

​

Galatians 2:20​

 

[frederickdoc]

I only know Jesus Gospel but I like Light so here enjoy samples

• Proverbs 4:18-19: "But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day. The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble."
• Daniel 12:3: "And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."
• Matthew 5:16: "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven

 

[Aussie52]

Psshhh. I am not a Calvinist. They even lie about and slander Calvin and don't care. Anything is fodder for their hatred.

Do you agree that for God to act unilaterally would make Him an unjust tyrannical
monster kidnapping people against their so called free will? That is the type of thing
some of these free willers say. They contradict and deny Scripture and slander those
who uphold it. We have even been told that divine intervention/God is not necessary.
in the process of coming to believe. That is about as far from Scripture truth as one can get.
They tell us God is unfair if He reveals Himself differently from one person to the next.
You know what? That sort of ignorance makes me wonder if they have ever even read the Bible.

There is much Pelagianism in the Evangelical Church today that denies God's gracious initiative in conversion. God is always previous and we can only come to Him as a result of His grace acting upon us. I write this as a Wesleyan-Arminian who certainly believes salvation begins and ends in God.

 

[Anchorite]

Says the "Christian" woman with purple hair, having a tattoo of a dragon on her arm, and petting a mythical Unicorn?

Esotericists know that the unicorn is not a Christian symbol, but an alchemical one, hence its appearance in indices of "magical" creatures. In occult lore, the unicorn's singular horn is a projection of the Third Eye.

In the realm of sorcery and witchcraft, the unicorn is a complex phallic symbol representing the pure, untamed spiritual force, the transmutation of base consciousness, and the synthesis of dualistic energies. Rather than just a fairy tale, esoteric traditions view it as an emblem of forbidden, hidden, occult wisdom.

In Renaissance alchemy, the unicorn represents the fiery, active masculine spirit, while its traditional companion—the maiden or a white stag—represents the passive, intuitive feminine soul. Together, they represent the "sacred marriage" or the mystical merging of spirit and matter necessary to achieve occult enlightenment.

Unlike the modern, new age, gentle interpretation of the creature, ancient and medieval occultists viewed the unicorn as a fiercely wild and untamable beast. Its purity is not passive naivety; it is an incorruptible state of being. The legend that the wild beast could only be tamed by a virgin represents the subjugation of raw instinct by absolute celibate sexual purity.

When the Bible mentions "unicorns," it does not refer to the mythical, horse-like creature of fairy tales. Instead, translations like the King James Version (KJV) use the word to translate the Hebrew re'em—a fierce, untamable, and powerful horned beast, most likely a wild ox, rhinosaurus, or aurochs.

Dragon is a traditional symbol of Satan.

Throughout Christian history and art, the dragon represents cosmic chaos, spiritual disorder, and vicious evil. The legend of Saint George slaying the dragon is a well-known metaphor for Christian faith conquering the devil.

Rather than mythological creatures, scriptural "dragons" are used metaphorically to depict spiritual darkness, rebellious kingdoms, or violent worldly empires (such as Egypt or Babylon) that oppose God’s order.

 

[brightfame52]

Chosen how? ........ In Christ!

For the 1000th time Chosen by the Father is how Eph 1:4

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
The He is God the Father, the word Chosen here ἐκλέγομαι:

to pick out, choose, to pick or choose out for one's self

Its in the middle voice meaning He chose them for Himself and then He put them in Christ, and so 1 Cor 1:30 says

30 But of him[Tje Father] are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption

and the reason back to Eph 1:4 to be holy and without blame b4 Him in Love. That come through the redemptive work of Christ. Eph 5:25-27

 

[brightfame52]

He was being spiritually alive while physically dead.

Again how did he become physically alive from physical death ? You ever heard of resurrection ?

 

[Genez]

For the 1000th time Chosen by the Father is how Eph 1:4

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
The He is God the Father, the word Chosen here ἐκλέγομαι:

That is Who chose us.

For where? In Him.

The Bride of Christ is now in Him, awaiting to be revealed by the resurrection!

When we are resurrected the Lord can look at us an say something 'similar' to What Adam said.


“This is now bone of my bones
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”

 

[HeIsHere]

I could make the same claim about Calvinists. Making God the cause of sin. Unjustly picking some out for salvation and sending others to hell without them having any choice in the matter. This I believe to be slander and blasphemy against the nature of God.
Peace.

Anytime a person denies that a person can respond positively to the Good News, be persuaded by its truth and power

unless God regenerates/gives hem a new heart/makes they able .. I would say they are firmly in the "Reformed" camp which derives

much its system from some the things Calvin wrote.

Do they ever want to deal with the special privilege of bequeathed ability they received and why others do not...rarely

 

[brightfame52]

That is Who chose us.

And thats how the elect were Chosen, by the Father

 

[HeIsHere]

There is much Pelagianism in the Evangelical Church today that denies God's gracious initiative in conversion. God is always previous and we can only come to Him as a result of His grace acting upon us. I write this as a Wesleyan-Arminian who certainly believes salvation begins and ends in God.

The point is ..that grace is not limited to a few, nor is it an internal work as in >>>> a changed heart or regeneration only for some prior to faith, and the charge of Pelaganism is meaningless and I rather doubt it has been mobilized in the churches the way stealth Calvinism has been over the past 40 years.

Calvinism harms the Good News of Christ Jesus.

 

[Genez]

Again how did he become physically alive from physical death ? You ever heard of resurrection ?

At the Great White Throne Judgment?
Even the spiritually dead (unbelievers) will have their own resurrection.
Resurrected into a body of this world.


Those on the second resurrection will face the Lord for their judgment.
When that body hits the Lake of Fire?
That body will be destroyed.
As a result?
They will die a second time!

Hence... "The Second Death."

​

“Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves
will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live,
and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned."​

John 5:28-29

 

[Genez]

And thats how the elect were Chosen, by the Father

Chosen to give His Son his Bride!

 

[brightfame52]

At the Great White Throne Judgment?
Even the spiritually dead (unbelievers) will have their own resurrection.
Resurrected into a body of this world.


Those on the second resurrection will face the Lord for their judgment.
When that body hits the Lake of Fire?
That body will be destroyed.
As a result?
They will die a second time!

Hence... "The Second Death."

​

“Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves ​

will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, ​

and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned."​

John 5:28-29

Again how did he become physically alive from physical death ? You ever heard of resurrection ?

 

[Aussie52]

The point is ..that grace is not limited to a few, nor is it an internal work as in >>>> a changed heart or regeneration only for some prior to faith, and the charge of Pelaganism is meaningless and I rather doubt it has been mobilized in the churches the way stealth Calvinism has been over the past 40 years.

Calvinism harms the Good News of Christ Jesus.

Pelagian or Semi-Pelagianism is rife in our Churches. We see it in a denial of original sin, total depravity, a come to Jesus when you want mentality. Much of the Cross less Gospel, cheap grace and easy believism comes from Semi-Pelagianism.
I have seen this doctrine in Youth For A Mission (YWAM) and other para church organizations.
Pelagian /Semi-Pelagianism is just as destructive as Calvinism as it denies the need of the grace of God in salvation.

 

[brightfame52]

The point is ..that grace is not limited to a few

Yes it is, called a remnant Rom 11:5-7

5 ;Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

 

[Magenta]

There is much Pelagianism in the Evangelical Church today that denies God's gracious initiative
in conversion. God is always previous and we can only come to Him as a result of His grace acting
upon us. I write this as a Wesleyan-Arminian who certainly believes salvation begins and ends in God.

There are a number of Pelagian heretics here.