Calvinism is Gospel !
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Should have waited for his last post before commenting.
Are you ever demon influenced?
You believe he is referring to people he agrees with?
Why didn't he point out that what I thought he was saying wasn't what he was saying?
He rants and raves about phalluses and third eyes and a bunch of other demonic garbage. Sounds like he just came out of a coven. He is a manipulative bully who wants to pretend it is because of my beautiful avatar. He does this because he cannot refute Scripture, so he attacks me instead like others slanderers here; they can’t stand that my theology is Bible‑anchored, not personality‑anchored, not tradition‑anchored, not “hive‑mind” anchored or based on traditions of men. So they assign motives I don’t have, invent beliefs I don’t hold, accuse me of things I’ve never said, twist my avatar into something sinister... again and again while pretending they know my influences so they can project their perversions onto me. It’s spiritual gaslighting. And it’s wicked. He is a liar.
Can God forget? seems like a very answerable question.. Question is why is it being dodged?
Notice how faith is framed in this verse, contrary to how Calvinist/TULIPISTS/Reformed claim.
Romans 9:31-32 NKJV -
Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law.
They are conned for not seeking righteousness by faith.
Belief/Faith is a passive act of the will.
And it determines what we pursue and how.
If faith is just a gift, then you would not be condemned for what we don’t have.
But Israel is condemned, not for what they don’t have, but how they pursue righteousness.
Romans 9:31-32 NKJV -
Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law.
They are conned for not seeking righteousness by faith.
Belief/Faith is a passive act of the will.
And it determines what we pursue and how.
If faith is just a gift, then you would not be condemned for what we don’t have.
But Israel is condemned, not for what they don’t have, but how they pursue righteousness.
The Book of Romans does not teach TULIP.... no sovereign election for salvation anywhere.
The purpose of Romans 9.
You cannot claim your family lineage as why you should get heaven.
Romans 9:33 KJVS
As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumbling stone and rock of offense: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
The purpose of Romans 9.
You cannot claim your family lineage as why you should get heaven.
Romans 9:33 KJVS
As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumbling stone and rock of offense: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
No one seeks God ≠ Inability to respond to the truth inherent in the Good News of Christ Jesus.
It always confuses me when Calvinist/Reformed read a passage and bring so much baggage into it.
Neither can they see the baggage .. time to find a real (non Reformed) Bible teacher.
It always confuses me when Calvinist/Reformed read a passage and bring so much baggage into it.
Neither can they see the baggage .. time to find a real (non Reformed) Bible teacher.
I certainly agree that family lineage will not get anybody to heaven. I don't agree that Romans doesn't teach the Doctrines of Grace. Romans 8 says:
(Rom 8:28 NKJV) And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.
(Rom 8:29) For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.
God foreknew, God predestined.
Having condemned these heresies, Paul declares that the source of our salvation is God showing mercy - only God showing mercy; he proclaims that salvation depends upon God showing mercy - only upon God showing mercy. This is the message of Calvinism; and because it is, our defense of Calvinism is a bold, uncompromisingly, unashamed defense. We say of Calvinism what B. B. Warfield once said of it: "the future of Christianity - as its past has done - lies in its hands."
We repudiate the false accusations made against Calvinism, and the caricatures made of it. Men say of Calvinism that it is destructive of good works and of the law of God, that it produces careless Christians. Men say that it is destructive of zeal for preaching and missions. Men say that it is terrifying to poor consciences, that it is cold and hard, and that Calvinists are all head and no heart. These are old charges, hoary with age. You will find them, almost word-for-word, lodged against the apostle, Paul, and the Gospel that he preached (cf. Romans 3:8; 3:31; 6:1f.; and 9:19ff.).
Would that men were not so ready to accept the caricature of Calvinism contrived by its enemies, but rather let Calvinism speak for itself, in its confessions. Read the Heidelberg Catechism, or the Westminster Catechisms, and see for yourself whether Calvinism is hard and cold and cruel, or whether it is warm and comforting. Read the Belgic Confession, or the Westminster Confession of Faith, and see whether Calvinism goes lightly over the law of God and over the good works of the Christian man, or whether it trembles before the law, stresses sanctification, and insists on the necessity of good works. Read the Canons of Dordt, the Reformed creed that is unsurpassed in its statement of predestination and in its defense of salvation by grace alone, and see whether Calvinism cuts the nerve of a lively preaching of the Gospel, including the serious call of the Gospel to all who come under the preaching. See also the tenderness of the Reformed Faith towards penitent sinners, and its deep pastoral concern for afflicted consciences.
At the same time, we Reformed people and churches must refute the caricatures of Calvinism by our life and deeds. This also belongs to an "apology for Calvinism." We do well to take heed to ourselves, as well as to our doctrine. Are we zealous for good works? Are we ready to preach the Gospel to every creature and to give an answer to every man that asks us a reason for the hope that is in us? Do we manifest ourselves as joyful, hopeful, confident saints? This we will do, by God's grace, if we live out of the truth of Calvinism, that is, the Gospel.
Calvinism is the Gospel
We repudiate the false accusations made against Calvinism, and the caricatures made of it. Men say of Calvinism that it is destructive of good works and of the law of God, that it produces careless Christians. Men say that it is destructive of zeal for preaching and missions. Men say that it is terrifying to poor consciences, that it is cold and hard, and that Calvinists are all head and no heart. These are old charges, hoary with age. You will find them, almost word-for-word, lodged against the apostle, Paul, and the Gospel that he preached (cf. Romans 3:8; 3:31; 6:1f.; and 9:19ff.).
Would that men were not so ready to accept the caricature of Calvinism contrived by its enemies, but rather let Calvinism speak for itself, in its confessions. Read the Heidelberg Catechism, or the Westminster Catechisms, and see for yourself whether Calvinism is hard and cold and cruel, or whether it is warm and comforting. Read the Belgic Confession, or the Westminster Confession of Faith, and see whether Calvinism goes lightly over the law of God and over the good works of the Christian man, or whether it trembles before the law, stresses sanctification, and insists on the necessity of good works. Read the Canons of Dordt, the Reformed creed that is unsurpassed in its statement of predestination and in its defense of salvation by grace alone, and see whether Calvinism cuts the nerve of a lively preaching of the Gospel, including the serious call of the Gospel to all who come under the preaching. See also the tenderness of the Reformed Faith towards penitent sinners, and its deep pastoral concern for afflicted consciences.
At the same time, we Reformed people and churches must refute the caricatures of Calvinism by our life and deeds. This also belongs to an "apology for Calvinism." We do well to take heed to ourselves, as well as to our doctrine. Are we zealous for good works? Are we ready to preach the Gospel to every creature and to give an answer to every man that asks us a reason for the hope that is in us? Do we manifest ourselves as joyful, hopeful, confident saints? This we will do, by God's grace, if we live out of the truth of Calvinism, that is, the Gospel.
Calvinism is the Gospel
That is a major problem for some of the free willers in this thread since they do not
believe God to be merciful, in fact they blaspheme Him, calling Him an unjust tyrannical
monster kidnapping people against their so-called "free will" and telling us He is unfair
to do the very things He does. With some, God is not even required in the process of anyone
coming to believe, which is about as far from Biblical truth as one can get.
@Magenta ...
Matthew 5 : 10-12
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12;Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
One should never refer to Calvinist TULIP teachings as the “Doctrines of Grace”. The TULIP teachings are the Doctrines of Limited Grace.
Have you started reading the Bible yet?
Please let me know when you get to the 2nd chapter of Genesis.
Specifically verse 17.
If you believe what the Bible says, you will then agree with me.
that is a interesting point. I have been told my many Calvinist when confronted about those who received the Gospel message yet did not get saved.
They said: That was due to the fact God did not choose them.
I was Told by many Calvinist that they refused to believe that the Blood of Jesus IF was for those who heard the Gospel would have saved them.
Therefore Calvinist refuse to believe the Blood of Jesus would be wasted and ineffective to save one who is NOT to BE saved.
That is an opinion Not seen in the word of God.
Faith without works is dead?
There is a twofold justification concerning faith.
We are saved automatically from Hell by having faith.
For belief in Jesus Christ saves us from Hell.
But, if we refuse to walk and operate by faith?
To make growing in grace and knowledge our way of life?
Our lives here on earth are not justified before God.
Producing works which should become a natural way to do things.
Failing to transform into our second nature, which should become our first?
We will not, in that case, be saved from the evils in this world.
Therefore...
Faith without works is dead concerning how we conduct ourselves in this lifetime.
We will not be justified before God in how we live our present life.
Just the same...
Having faith in Jesus Christ after hearing the Gospel?
That faith saves us from the Lake of Fire.
That is why we are saved by faith!
But, faith without works?
Is dead!
grace and peace .........
Literally nowhere does it say that God regenerated first, and then faith comes.
Where does it say... regeneration happened, then faith in Christ happened afterwards?
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