If you study the history of the matter you will find that this is a latter day development.
Originally the line was patrilinear.
Find out what Fruchtenbaum has to say on the matter.
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Originally the line was patrilinear.
Find out what Fruchtenbaum has to say on the matter.
What Paul is saying (consistently) is that SALVATION and the manifold blessings of the Church age New Covenant (including gifts of the Spirit!) do not discriminate between Jew and gentile. They are both equal in this regard.
Paul NEVER says that gentiles are Jews ethnically or any other way. Not once. Nor does any other person who penned Scripture.
On the contrary, Paul is CONSTANTLY calling Jews Jews and gentiles gentiles and defining them as unique ETHNIC components.
Get a clue and actually read your bible with eyes wide open and take off the supersessionist goggles.
I think that the "fake Jew crew" are obsessed with conspiracy theory nuttery and are running three sheets to the wind.
Heh it's not as wordy and intellectual, but gigachad grandpa Dean's point about them being brainwashed their liberal professors is probably way closer to it.
That prescience, retroactive thumbs up indeed. God bless the grey hair of the Boomers, praise Jesus.
What is this guy's problem? No more merc $$$ from Iran is my guess. The perpetual war business model is broken much to his chagrin.
This sounds very similar to the discussion Stephen had with the Pharisees... Even to the gnashing of the teeth (and elsewhere false accusations such as "pushing replacement theology", when it is the Pharisees trying to replace Jesus' promises to Christians with the unbelieving).
Acts 7:51-54
Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
Matthew 3:9
And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Luke 8:21
And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.
Galatians 3:16
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
The New Testament harmonizes with those things, but certainly puts it in a different light.
We can accept the New Testament or we can accept the alternative.
On the contrary, it is supersessionism that impugns God character and trustworthiness.
Only 2 out of the 8 covenants are now obsolete. And this one is certainly in force as are the remaining five.
Gen 48:3
And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me,
Gen 48:4
And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people; and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession.
"when it is the Pharisees trying to replace Jesus' promises to Christians with the unbelieving)."
You are telling us that Christians aka the Bride, inherit the land promised to Abraham?
Are you saying Paul was wrong?"when it is the Pharisees trying to replace Jesus' promises to Christians with the unbelieving)."
You are telling us that Christians aka the Bride, inherit the land promised to Abraham?
Gal 3:7 “Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.”
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
The patrilininear definition also runs into trouble with the New Testament.
If these three thousand Jewish men who were saved at on the day of Pentecost were to all live to age 76 and produce 2 sons by the age of 45, and the grandsons all continue to do the same until today, the number of Christian men from that lineage would now be 7.9x100000000000000000. I used ai to do the math.
The problem is that they do not identify as Jews, and only would identify that way if they belonged to a particular religion.
We are still left with a religious definition.
Why are you are wasting your time trying to pass counterfeit coin to the mint?
Your Biblically illiterate currency is worthless to me.