Anyway what you talking about ? People Don't like the truth ,they undestand exactly what is spoken, normally they just stay away cus they don't want the Truth .
what is Speaking in tongues
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Exactly my point.
Attempting to use scripture to prove the existence of New Testament tongues today is impossible.
Yet you and Wansvic are insisting that since tongues were being used during the New Testament it must be going on today.
If you insist that tongues must exist because scripture demands it, then Christianity is a fraud.
It was in two separate conversations on construction jobsites. I often discuss scripture with others. And the first story resulted in the guy leaving the church building. Another guy followed him outside. It was the second guy that told me the story. The one who followed the first outside. The other story I heard about over the years. But the first story was about 35 years ago, and the second story was after that. In the conversation with the first guy, it did not lead to comfort. No result that I am aware of.
Prob not, it was not of the spirit. i seen people and discomfort leave . Did the second guy that followed get the same feeling? Or did he sometimg beyond normal . But i know things like that happen i myself still think in stuff similar .That i see First hand just like if i was in the same space with you arms reach. I once went out but it was fear in a young man at an music event I guess I was an usher at the event .The young man just needed reassurance but another usher said it's time to collect and made me stop talking with the boy
And then I realized it wasn't about the Lord anymore. Also something comes up when the Lord is trying to work. There is alot angles cause i seen different situations but it alway The lord blessing and the devil trying to steal it away.
Best scenario whatever was going on that day the devil wasn't bound first ! I walked into this one time but years laters im still learning a bit at a time ,is was a great event i dont share it but pieces maybe
I read in english "New" Tongues in this one scripture in mk.
Mark 16:17: "And these Signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they Will speak with new tongues how many more fo you want to see . The gispel is living and i hope all will also be found it it 2000 + years later!
Faulty logic. The scriptures teach that the Spirit gives these and other gifts as He wills, and hasn't cancelled the scripture. Where does the Bible specifically say that grace for salvation is available in the 21st century... and specifically mention the 21st century?
Why does it have to say that?
This brings whole thought process full circle. The Ruach is the exact reason why the world cannot see or understand the Spirit, but those who are "in Christ" can:
- The Wind blows where it wishes: Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3:8, "The wind [Ruach/Pneuma] blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." Far ss i know He holy Spirit has not retired or shorted up his work but really when the Seed of the Gospel is not given then that work is done ,until then stop hindering The Lord And His Own,!
Frederickdoc, just wondering, how do you view Rev. 12:5. Who is the one taken to heaven, and who is his rod?
Jesus and his "rod" is an iron scepter representing absolute sovereign authority and divine justice. Psalms 2:9
She is Isreal nation
why the question relation to Isaiah ? Here one if s few.
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders." Both passages link the vulnerability of a newborn child directly to the ultimate governing of the nations. You know jesus has All kindoms Earth king birth rt and Heaven king
people seem to Not know jesus took it All legal And Lawfull thats why its all laid old thro,ugh history
Isaiah 11:4: "He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth; with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked."
- The Connection: In Hebrew prophecy, the "rod" or "scepter" is an instrument of executive authority. While Isaiah emphasizes the spoken word of Christ as the rod that judges, Revelation combines this by showing that the weapon coming out of His mouth is the iron scepter used to rule the nations (Revelation 19:15).
Thank you. I hoped that you knew the metaphorical application. Because, you are so well versed in the Savior's doctrine. And I, not knowing the depth as you do, but I do know the metaphorical meaning. It is the author of the book, John, and his 144,000. Nevertheless, I do not believe that you do not know this. Thank you for your great work.
They are men appointed to be judges. But they must be washed in the blood of Jesus to be pure. Virgins is metaphor for being clean. For example the ten virgins are a tithe of the saints of God. They are clean. But not really virgins, but clean.
I think fee things are mixed
you seem to be talking about yeo different groups
Group 1: The 144,000 (The Sealed Remnant)
In the first half of the chapter (Revelation 7:1–8), John hears the number of an exclusive, structured group.
Immediately after, in Revelation 7:9–14, John turns around and sees a totally different group. This is where the quote actually comes from:
crowd so massive that "no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language." This is completely opposite to the strict, numbered limit of 144,000.
you seem to be talking about yeo different groups
Group 1: The 144,000 (The Sealed Remnant)
In the first half of the chapter (Revelation 7:1–8), John hears the number of an exclusive, structured group.
- Who they are: They are explicitly called 12,000 from each of the specific twelve tribes of Israel.
- Their description: They are marked with a protective seal on their foreheads so they can endure the wrath on earth.
Immediately after, in Revelation 7:9–14, John turns around and sees a totally different group. This is where the quote actually comes from:
crowd so massive that "no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language." This is completely opposite to the strict, numbered limit of 144,000.
- Their description: An elder explicitly asks who this international crowd is, and the answer is given in verse 14: "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."