Calvinism is Gospel !
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According to you, the gospel is Calvinism. Calvin cannot help you so I guess the gospel, the real one, is hidden to you. You say that to be true with your own words.
The dissonance is resolved in the fact that God is creating stories, narratives.
God relates to His creation the way an author relates to a novel. The author doesn’t merely *predict* the story—he creates the entire narrative world, its characters, their motives, their choices, and the arc that gives those choices meaning. The characters are real within the story, and what they do genuinely matters because their actions are part of the plot the author has written. In the same way, God’s sovereignty means He authors the whole storyline of history and of each life, not as a controller overriding choices, but as the One who gives the story its shape, direction, and significance.
Fatalism says the outcome is fixed and nothing we do has any real significance; the end is set, and human action is irrelevant. Divine determinism is different. It says the outcome is fixed because God is writing the story, and within that story, human actions matter precisely because they are part of the way God brings His purposes to completion. Fatalism erases meaning; divine determinism establishes it. In a divinely authored narrative, our choices are not illusions—they are the very means through which the story unfolds.
Divine determinism also reframes the problem of evil by placing every dark thread inside a story with a good purpose. Evil is real within the narrative, but it is never random or outside God’s reach; it becomes part of the plot that ultimately serves His redemptive ends. Just as an author can use conflict, betrayal, or tragedy to move the story toward a meaningful resolution, God uses even sinful actions to advance the good He intends to reveal. Evil doesn’t disappear, but it is never the final word. In a divinely authored story, God’s purpose gives suffering and wrongdoing a place that leads toward good, not toward despair.
Notice you say, it can save but you fall short in saying that it does save ! Why is that ? Please explain
Good Im glad you admitted to the world, that Jesus death doesnt save, it makes saving possible ! Then who and what makes that possibility a realty ? That will be your saviour
Well you don't really believe that. As you believe Calvinism is the gospel, you believe that God creates....actually creates....people especially to throw into the lake of fire.
The god you believe Calvin defined, does not love people.
By the way, claiming God sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins, defines a huge error in Calvinsim. Jesus dying for the sins of mankind is not limited atonement. Whosoever will (Rom. 10:13) does not cut off anyone, nor does it describe God zapping people with salvation. The Gospel of Jesus, presents the way to salvation; it does not define who will be saved.
Touche!
I do. I used to hate myself, but God taught me to see the truth about myself. I am a sinner in need of grace. But that doesn't mean I am garbage. I'm just a vintage sports car with bad steering and I tend to run over the people that I love.
You are bothered by how I speak. Why is that?
No I found the scripture the Gospel is hid to them that are lost. Are people born saved of lost ?
By canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. Colossians 2:14
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18
And might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. Ephesians 2:16
and the easiest to understand:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
Calvinism has confused you. It is not the gospel and it does not save.
Yep! Im not backing down on that, you can forget it. And the Gospel is hid to them that are Lost
No, Jesus is the gospel. His life, death and resurrection .... the good news.
Calvinism presents a god who chooses and rejects. Yet, the Bible states whosoever will meaning anyone.
You do not comprehend this though because you believe Calvinism instead of salvation through Christ.
You have said it now, Jesus death doesnt save, it merely makes salvation possible ! Thats a horrible thing to say about Jesus Christ and all he endured to save sinners from their sins.
He's not saying repentance isn't part of salvation. He's saying repentance doesn't lead to salvation, but that salvation leads to repentance.
God is holding them accountable for the light that they had received, and rejected.
Already exegeted in context many times here and on other threads!!
I reject your secret system of salvation outright.
It is completely outside of the teachings of scripture.
Really it is your loss and you will be held accountable for your promotion of this false dogma.
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