Calvinism is Gospel !

[Magenta]

Revelation 22 verses 11-13 ~ Let the unrighteous continue to be unrighteous, and the vile continue to be vile; let the righteous continue to practice righteousness, and the holy continue to be holy.” “Behold, I am coming soon, and My reward is with Me, to give to each one according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

 

[brightfame52]

Revelation 22 verses 11-13 ~ Let the unrighteous continue to be unrighteous, and the vile continue to be vile; let the righteous continue to practice righteousness, and the holy continue to be holy.” “Behold, I am coming soon, and My reward is with Me, to give to each one according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

Thats scary, because it indicates there is a time prior to His coming again , peoples destinies will be fixed, and no more conversions unless they are already legally righteous.

 

[Magenta]

See how easy that was, you the only one who gave a straight logical response, Thanks

You are welcome. We have seen for years how FWers have a terrible time acknowledging and affirming what
Scripture explicitly articulates, while they slander those who believe what the revealed written Word of God
says. It surely is a sad state of affairs when so-called Christians call us degenerates for believing the Bible.

But then they also say straight up Scripture is false teachings.

 

[Magenta]

Thank You, Jesus

 

[HeIsHere]

There is no lens. I read what is there. I see nothing of Paul telling the Philippians that they are representatives of the Gentile nations.

That would be because once again the context is pushed aside and the you becomes "you" rather to whom the letter was written.

The racial problems are very clear in many of he letters.

The verse is not stating that "belief " is a gift because is not the noun but the infinitive verb "to believe"

The Gentiles were given the privilege to believe as was God's plan all along.

The BDAG lexicon and more than a few Bible translations have affirmed, namely that God has gave the Gentiles the "privilege" (i.e. the opportunity) "to believe" in Christ and "to suffer" for His sake.

 

[Magenta]

Isaiah 41 verses 11-12, and 29 verse 20, plus 2 Thessalonians 1 verse 9a ~ Behold, all who rage against You will be ashamed and disgraced; those who contend with You will be reduced to nothing and will perish. You will seek them but will not find them. Those who wage war against You will come to nothing. For the ruthless will vanish, the mockers will disappear, and all who look for evil will be cut down. They will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction.

 

[Lamar]

Those given to Jesus come to Him. I don't see any ifs or maybes in that verse.

But these FWers call straight Scriptures false teachings.

They love their lies.

You are a little nutty, aren't you.

BTW, why do you hate the unchosen so very much?

Should you not have pity for them?

 

[WayneNSO]

Those who do not believe in free will should not get angry or even try to correct those that believe different to them because after all we are predestined to believe and say what we say. In the same regard anyone that gets upset at something someone says shouldn't, it is all pre-ordained

 

[HeIsHere]

Paul goes onto tell those Corinthians believers that they cannot receive his teachings because they are carnal. Do they have the Spirit? Absolutely, but the context is deep things of God.

Yes that is true.

The way they handle scripture, I feel embarrassed for them.

 

[GWH]

You are welcome. We have seen for years how FWers have a terrible time acknowledging and affirming what
Scripture explicitly articulates, while they slander those who believe what the revealed written Word of God
says. It surely is a sad state of affairs when so-called Christians call us degenerates for believing the Bible.

But then they also say straight up Scripture is false teachings.

What cc folks have seen from this FWer is acknowledgement of all Scripture and harmonization of them rather than settling for prooftexting, without lobbing ad hominem attacks.

I share those systematic studies mostly on the Resolving Problematic Interpretation thread.

 

[Cameron143]

Those who do not believe in free will should not get angry or even try to correct those that believe different to them because after all we are predestined to believe and say what we say. In the same regard anyone that gets upset at something someone says shouldn't, it is all pre-ordained

We're well aware why people say what they say. We're not upset. We are actually correcting you out of love as a parent corrects their children. You're most welcome.

 

[HeIsHere]

You are a little nutty, aren't you.

BTW, why do you hate the unchosen so very much?

Should you not have pity for them?

I think it must be hard to accept that you have not been uniquely, particularly and divinely selected for salvation.

 

[WayneNSO]

We're well aware why people say what they say. We're not upset. We are actually correcting you out of love as a parent corrects their children. You're most welcome.

Delusion is pre-ordained also

 

[HeIsHere]

What cc folks have seen from this FWer is acknowledgement of all Scripture and harmonization of them rather than settling for prooftexting, without lobbing ad hominem attacks.

I share those systematic studies mostly on the Resolving Problematic Interpretation thread.

My goodness the proof texting is beyond belief.

 

[Cameron143]

Delusion is pre-ordained also

That's clever, but also childish. You merely confirm and give veracity to the assessment.

 

[Magenta]

That's clever, but also childish. You merely confirm and give veracity to the assessment.

Slaves to sin are free in the FW theology. What else can we expect from those blinded to Truth
by the god of this world? People who are opposed to the spiritual things of God which they
can neither receive nor comprehend while hearing the gospel message as foolishness?

Not once does the Bible say the natural man's will is free... in fact, quite the opposite, since he is
a slave to sin and captive to to the will of the devil, blinded to truth, opposed to the spiritual things
of God, unable/incapable of submitting to God or obeying Him. But in the mind of free willer/Pelagian
heretics that is freedom. He hears the gospel as foolishness but the foolishness of free willers is that
that person will choose to believe even though Jesus said it is impossible. The natural man can no more
change his God hating heart than an Ethiopian can change the colour of his skin or a leopard his spots.
He is unable to hear, incapable of submitting to God, a lover of darkness, refusing to come into the light,
hearing the gospel as foolishness, unable to receive or comprehend the spiritual things of God, to which
he is opposed and to Whom he is hostile toward while under the power and influence of the devil, as is
the whole world, out of which believers have been called.

 

[brightfame52]

T.U.L.I.P.​

By David N. Steele & Curtis C. Thomas

The Five Points of Calvinism

Total Depravity

Because of the fall, man is unable of himself to savingly believe the gospel. The sinner is dead, blind, and deaf to the things of God; his heart is deceitful and desperately corrupt. His will is not free, it is in bondage to his evil nature; therefore, he will not–indeed he cannot–choose good over evil in the spiritual realm. Consequently, it takes much more than the Spirit’s assistance to bring a sinner to Christ–it takes regeneration by which the Spirit makes the sinner alive and gives him a new nature. Faith is not something man contributes to salvation but is itself a part of God’s gift of salvation–it is God’s gift to the sinner, not the sinner’s gift to God.
(Genesis 2:15-17, Romans 5:12, Psalm 51:5, 1 Corinthians 2:14, Romans 3:10-18, Jeremiah 17:9, John 6:44, Ephesians 2:1-10) https://reformedbaptistdaily.wordpress.com/t-u-l-i-p/ 7

 

[HeIsHere]

Delusion is pre-ordained also

Yes, the proof texting, the cherry picking and the mining for verses accompany the per-ordained delusion.

 

[Magenta]

Those without the Spirit of Christ do not belong to Christ. Scripture says so but FWers
reject, contradict, and deny a slew of Scriptures in favor of their opinions. Some of these
FWers call direct Scripture "false teachings." They love slandering Bible believers.

John 14 v 17a, Romans 8 v 6-9 ~ “Inability” in Bible. The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth. The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. Praise be to God for calling me out of the world.

 

[John146]

So you believe those blessed of the Father to inherit the kingdom prepared for them from
the foundation of the world are not His sheep? Wow. Whatever dude. You have very much
strayed from the Truth of Scriptures, as have most FWers, and I am not arguing that you are
not a sheep. I know Who my Shepherd is. I have heard His voice; He is the Overseer of my soul.

You still have provided zero scripture from the Apostle Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, where he or anyone else referred to them a sheep. And you accuse me of straying from the truth.