Calvinism is Gospel !

[pinebeach]

And you choose to believe she lies?

Is there something wrong with your ability to comprehend? Magenta calls those not persuaded of her beliefs liars.

Get it straight dude. It's not that hard. smh

 

[pinebeach]

Supporters of Calvinist theology that are not Calvinist... I seems that is either the latest fashion trend, or crazy.
Speaking of crazy, I do wonder how many sock puppets are in circulation.

I'm currently wondering who the mouse is. Seems like backup support for the ever angry magenta.

 

[pinebeach]

Don't be surprised when these folks freely choose to falsely accuse you of all manner of things.

These folks, are believers in our Lord Jesus Christ.

But, let's make something clear. You call us liars while you outshine every one of us in this thread by a great deal.

I never said you did pm the mouse...I distinctly said IF. But that does not support your false accusations so you pretend I said something different.

 

[pinebeach]

Supporters of Calvinist theology that are not Calvinist... I seems that is either the latest fashion trend, or crazy.
Speaking of crazy, I do wonder how many sock puppets are in circulation.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it's a duck.

Just use the word Calvinist in place of duck. But you know that.

 

[Genez]

Even Jesus says we are like sick people in need of a physician.

Calvinists take the metaphor in a literal way and then create tall sorts of false doctrine.

Made an excellent point.

Sick people are not dead.
Sick people need a doctor to make them well.

A doctor can not make a dead person well.
Calvinism calls in Dr. Frankenstein to the rescue.

 

[HeIsHere]

You will be waiting forever

So you concede the verse does not exist and therefore the tenet is not supported by scripture?

 

[pinebeach]

Just more Scripture that they reject, contradict, and outright deny. Par for the course for these FWers.

That one in particular, with her Darwinian new age views layered into her Pelagian heresy.

Well, God knows we do not deny His Son and the gospel. You, are judged by the words you use to judge others which you do in frequency and with great nastiness.

You are judged, because you do not judge righteously. You judge people's hearts and that is not your place. God looks on the heart and no matter how right you think you might be, you have no business calling others names and accusing them because you disasgree.

Are you having fun?

 

[Genez]

Don't be surprised when these folks freely choose to falsely accuse you of all manner of things.

False? ...
Like presenting a Christian motif of a purple haired girl with a dragon tattooed on her arm?
Walking next to a unicorn?
That is paganism. True or false?

But? On the positive side?
That can be used to attract those involved with paganism to take a peek.

So there you go.

Just make sure the message is right.

 

[pinebeach]

They do the same with my Scripture panels.

Well you can quote scripture and create what you think are opportunities to be admired, and post AI songs and think it's worship, but I don't find what you do inspiring or creative.

 

[pinebeach]

It seems the Arminian ideology of Conditional Election affords the same supposition on God's part as does Unconditional Election.

God predestined whom he will Save. Others are destined to live and die in their Sins.

The Arminians difference is,they believe they can elect to refuse Salvation when God predestined them to be called into it.

While Calvinists think to themselves, who could possibly hear God's invitation into His grace and willingly choose to say,no thanks, I prefer Hell.

Well that's not so at all.

Arminians, of which I am not one, put no conditions on salvation.

If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
Romans 10:9-10

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 14:6

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.
Acts 4:12

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23

 

[pinebeach]

The Arminians difference is,they believe they can elect to refuse Salvation when God predestined them to be called into it.

While Calvinists think to themselves, who could possibly hear God's invitation into His grace and willingly choose to say,no thanks, I prefer Hell.

Yeah, your understanding is not what those who understand how salvation works, is not correct.

Arminians, again of which I am not one, do not believe God predestined them to accept or reject His off of salvation.

 

[HeIsHere]

That was directed towards self righteous Pharisees who thought they were well and healthy,

He is not defining the absolute ontological limit of human depravity there.

• Scripture explicitly states that we are "dead in trespasses and sins" (Ephesians 2:1). A sick man can take medicine; a dead man cannot. If Paul wanted to say we were just "spiritually sick," the Greek language has plenty of words for illness (astheneia, kamno). Instead, the Holy Spirit chose the Greek word νεκρός (nekros), which means a corpse. [1, 2, 3, 4] AI

Your doctrine extends way beyond the limit of the word, that is the real problem.

Oh with this verse it suddenly becomes important to whom Jesus was speaking, the old shifting of the goal post when it suits the system.

So by your logic Jesus only pointed out their illness, but forgot to mention they were also dead.
So inconsistent is the system!!

 

[pinebeach]

That the Gospel predates John Calvin.

Who extrapolated teachings of a Christ so to make a concise encapsulation of what Jesus taught throughout the 3 New Testament Books of Matthew,Mark,and John.

Yes,this threads title reads just so.

However, my point is, Calvin gleaned his understanding,and created a doctrine attributed to him later, from the teachings of Jesus.

No different than what today are Methodist teachings attributed to John Wesley. Or, Presbyterianism, attributed to John Knox, who studied under John Calvin.

"A" Christ?

I believe in THE Christ, the only begotten Son of God who is eternal, who is Spirit and has no beginning or end.

Those who cling to Calvinism, may be guilty of putting him before God. I don't know, of course, but there is the possibility

You should really read the post I created about the beginnings of Calvinism. He was not the first to deny the actual gospel and
attribute salvation to God, or really 'a' god, that does not decide who will be saved. He KNOWS who will be saved because he knows all things.

Do you know anything about High Calvinsim? Try studying about the false doctrine. If you cannot or do not want to do so, don't
try telling others what they believe because you have now illustrated you do not actually know.

 

[pinebeach]

They love obsessing about my avatar and making up stuff about me because of it.

Some talk back and forth to each other about it, even.
Like that one you met earlier, among others.

They do the same with my Scripture panels.

I have never given your avatar one thought. Sorry. As far as your ladies with lots of make up go, I don't care about those either.
Suffice it to say I don't care for them but I'm saying it straight to you. I think some may like them, but I don't find them inspiring.

What do you care anyway, if you believe you are doing God's work for Him? Those who have something to say about your art and songs and avatar must just not understand great art when they see it. I'm just an art critic so don't mind me. Oh...music too actually

 

[brightfame52]

So you concede the verse does not exist and therefore the tenet is not supported by scripture?

It doesnt exist for you

 

[brightfame52]

Your doctrine extends way beyond the limit of the word, that is the real problem.

Oh with this verse it suddenly becomes important to whom Jesus was speaking, the old shifting of the goal post when it suits the system.

So by your logic Jesus only pointed out their illness, but forgot to mention they were also dead.
So inconsistent is the system!!

Man is dead in sin , goal post that !

 

[Magenta]

Is there something wrong with your ability to comprehend? Magenta calls those not persuaded of her beliefs liars.

Get it straight dude. It's not that hard. smh

Is there something wrong with your ability to comprehend?

I call liars, liars. Like you, who is a false accuser.

Get it straight dude. It's not that hard. smh

Right back atcha. Now go lie about someone else for a change.

 

[Magenta]

Man is dead in sin , goal post that !

It is like it must be repeated in every verse for her, but even then she would probably just mock and scoff at it as she
already does. Telling those she disagrees with to go preach in cemeteries, and then lying about having done that.

 

[pinebeach]

More of his lies. They lie about Calvin too and then defend Paul doing the very same thing.

Well now. You have certainly provided posts that just demand a response from all of us non-Calvinists.

Calvin had people executed in painful ways, some being tortured because we know that is how Christ Himself would do things, AFTER he supposedly quit the Catholic religion he had been spawned and brought up in. Although he certainly kept some vestiges of that religion such as the practice of infact baptism. I don't believe that formula was practed by John, Jesus cousin, cause babies can't swim and John gave everyone a full dunking in the Jordan. Do you believe babies should be dunked in an available source of water? Or is the head sprinkling good enough? shrugs

About Paul. Paul was not a believer in Christ when he persecuted those who were. After conversion, after his encounter with
Jesus in which his eyes lost sight temporairly, he never persecuted any believer in Christ again, although he certainly wrote
enough letters correcting the bad and sinful or just incorrect behavior of many.

See the difference? Just in case you don't, let me show you.

1. Calvin killed or had killed believers in Jesus who did not accept his own doctrine. He did this, having supposedly been a convert to Christ himself. ouch

2. Saul, who became Paul, gave the rest of his life to preach the actual biblical doctrine of salvation and God sent him to the Gentiles....non-Jews. Praise God

I hope that helps clear up your comparison that does not actually bear comparison

 

[pinebeach]

Is there something wrong with your ability to comprehend?

I call liars, liars. Like you, who is a false accuser.

Get it straight dude. It's not that hard. smh

Right back atcha. Now go lie about someone else for a change.

You call everyone a liar if they don't kow tow to you. We would expect nothing less from you by now. You argue with everyone for some reason

You really have no fear of what you say to others. Scary stuff.

Do you really need to defend your little friend? Are you a tag team?