Calvinism is Gospel !

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Man is dead in sin , goal post that !

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

God does not force any gift on people. He does not force His Son and He does not force spirtual gifts. :)
 
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Your doctrine extends way beyond the limit of the word, that is the real problem.
Free will of the natural man is simply not in the Bible, and that is certainly a problem for you and your ilk
and likely why you lie so much. What is taught of the natural man in Scripture is rejected by so many here
like you, who wish to cling to their belief that man is not the creature he became in Adam, which you deny,
Adam who spread sin to the entire human race and death to all humanity. A multitude of verses have been
repeatedly given and exposited to show the truth of the natural man, and ignored regularly by those whose
opinions and man-made traditions mean more to them than the actual Word of God. The human will is
corrupted and in bondage to sin, which some (like you) call free, whereas Scripture teaches that it is in
Christ that we are set free. There are none righteous aside from Christ, but some (like you) will tell you they
did not need His help at all. Some will say that for God to move unilaterally in order to enable a person to
respond positively to God, that He has kidnapped you against your will, making Him an unjust tyrant and
His offer of repentance fraudulent. Or if they do not say it, they agree with those who say such things! Like you.
 
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The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians ch 2 v 14
 
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

God does not force any gift on people. He does not force His Son and He does not force spirtual gifts. :)
The Gift of eternal life is appled by the New Birth. When God gives it as a Gift the sinner is passive, its a sovereign invisible work. Its giving a new heart, creating a new man . Its not a offer. When Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, He supernaturally imparted physical life into him, he didnt offer it to him to see if he would accept it. Your focus is earthly and unspiritual.
 
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

God does not force any gift on people. He does not force His Son and He does not force spirtual gifts. :)
Who has argued otherwise and where?
 
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Jeremiah 17 verse 9 plus John 3 verses 19-20 ~ The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it? This is the verdict: The Light has come into the world, but men loved the darkness rather than the Light because their deeds were evil.
 
Who has argued otherwise and where?
She argued that I had claimed Calvinism did not exist when I had said Calvinist seemed to be
used mostly as an ad hom. She repeatedly claimed I said things I did not. That makes her a liar
but it is certainly not the first time she has lied about me and no doubt it will not be the last.

Like heishere who has a hard time distinguishing the fact that she is a liar for claiming I call
anyone who is not persuaded of my beliefs a liar. It is just another one of her many lies.

You and I have disagreed with each other. Have I ever called you a liar? I know I have not.

Perhaps these people should just stop lying. Would we be reasonable to expect such from these?

It gets to the point where really we can expect nothing better from them. They are entrenched in their lies.
 
Calvinism is the Gospel !
Will you exegete Matthew 23:37?

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing."
 
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It will happen 100%, but not to earthly Israel. You have the wrong Israel in view.

God is not done with Israel.
He has put Israel on hold until the fullness of the Church will be made complete.

But, Israel will be back once the Church is complete and taken to Heaven (the Rapture) to be with the Lord.

Here we go...

“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”
Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,

from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,

from the tribe of Gad 12,000,

from the tribe of Asher 12,000,

from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,

from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,

from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,

from the tribe of Levi 12,000,

from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,

from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,

from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.
 
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She argued that I had claimed Calvinism did not exist when I had said Calvinist seemed to be
used mostly as an ad hom. She repeatedly claimed I said things I did not. That makes her a liar
but it is certainly not the first time she has lied about me and no doubt it will not be the last.

Like heishere who has a hard time distinguishing the fact that she is a liar for claiming I call
anyone who is not persuaded of my beliefs a liar. It is just another one of her many lies.

You and I have disagreed with each other. Have I ever called you a liar? I know I have not.

Perhaps these people should just stop lying. Would we be reasonable to expect such from these?

It gets to the point where really we can expect nothing better from them. They are entrenched in their lies.

You are not being truthful. 'She' said no such thing. Why don't you quote the post where I said that but you won't because it
does not exist. And quote the post where someone called you a degenerate. Does that one exist?
There is no shortage of names I get called by false accusers who prefer their lies to the Bible Truths on which I stand.

Really? Would that be more than the names you post?

Who are you really? I am actually starting to wonder.
 
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He was a liar from the beginning. Remember Jesus calling out his accusers? Same reason. "...you are of your father the Devil."

Jesus said we would be hated just as he was hated.

Don't you love it when his teachings from thousands of years ago are shown to be relevant, revealing, today?

Do you understand that the Bible is not a physical companion to your compliance with anyone here?

Jesus said many many things....more than we find in scripture which scripture itself attests. Jesus is not hated by those
who are in His family.

You seem to think non-Calvinists here hate Jesus. Prove it
 
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She argued that I had claimed Calvinism did not exist when I had said Calvinist seemed to be
used mostly as an ad hom. She repeatedly claimed I said things I did not. That makes her a liar
but it is certainly not the first time she has lied about me and no doubt it will not be the last.

Prove it. Let's see the post where I ever called you or anyone else a liar. I do take notice when someone states things that
are not truthful, but I don't impuge their entire character by judging them to be liear.

Where is the post that will show I said what you claim?
 
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You are not being truthful. 'She' said no such thing. Why don't you quote the post where I said that but you won't because it
does not exist. And quote the post where someone called you a degenerate. Does that one exist?


Really? Would that be more than the names you post?

Who are you really? I am actually starting to wonder.

As of late. It has become apparent.
There is a bitterness there, combined with some self-pity.

She needs to be healed by getting herself into sound doctrine once and for all.
There has been too much nostalgia in what she believes.
That can not sustain one in the spiritual warfare we are finding ourselves in.

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Will you exegete Matthew 23:37?

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing."
That verse along with many others about free will have already been posted - because we are spoilt for choice when we have all the books of the Bible to choose from to prove the obvious. You are wasting your time, all the scriptures will be denied by the daffodils no matter if you post one or a thousand. Oh sorry I meant TULIPS
 
Will you exegete Matthew 23:37?

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing."
And ? I have no problem with that verse, I have explained it over 100 times before, but Im not going to explain it to you. Do your own study. Now you exegete it
 
Will you exegete Matthew 23:37?

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing."
The natural man can neither submit to God nor obey Him. Romans 8 v 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. That refers to any not in Christ, who do not belong to Christ, as per Scripture, do I need to give the verse citation? The world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth as per Scripture. Do I need to give the verse citation? Do you know who the world is? I will tell you in case you do not know. The world is those under the power and influence of the devil. Taken captive to do his will. Is it the devil's will that people believe? The world is blinded by, guess who? The god of this world. As per Scripture. Do I need to give a verse citation? Also as per Scripture, salvation is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. So inability of the natural man is clearly taught despite those that claim it is nowhere in Scripture. He is the one who is a slave to sin and lover of darkness defined as darkness itself refusing to come into the Light. That is the choice the natural man makes. Some call it freedom. I do not.
 
She argued that I had claimed Calvinism did not exist when I had said Calvinist seemed to be
used mostly as an ad hom. She repeatedly claimed I said things I did not. That makes her a liar
but it is certainly not the first time she has lied about me and no doubt it will not be the last.

Like heishere who has a hard time distinguishing the fact that she is a liar for claiming I call
anyone who is not persuaded of my beliefs a liar. It is just another one of her many lies.

You and I have disagreed with each other. Have I ever called you a liar? I know I have not.

Perhaps these people should just stop lying. Would we be reasonable to expect such from these?

It gets to the point where really we can expect nothing better from them. They are entrenched in their lies.
Her suggestion seems to be against irresistible grace, but doing so from the perspective of choice. Yet no one has said choice was irresistible, but that grace is. While the one affects the other, it just seems another example of the emphasis in salvation of the individual rather than God.
 
Her suggestion seems to be against irresistible grace, but doing so from the perspective of choice. Yet no one has said choice was irresistible, but that grace is. While the one affects the other, it just seems another example of the emphasis in salvation of the individual rather than God.
Well some of these great intellectuals will tell us that God convinced them and then
they got to choose to decide if they believed what they were convinced of. Sounds
totally illogical to me. If I am convinced of something I already believe it.
 
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God is not done with Israel.
He has put Israel on hold until the fullness of the Church will be made complete.

But, Israel will be back once the Church is complete and taken to Heaven (the Rapture) to be with the Lord.

Here we go...

“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”
Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,

from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,

from the tribe of Gad 12,000,

from the tribe of Asher 12,000,

from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,

from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,

from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,

from the tribe of Levi 12,000,

from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,

from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,

from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.

Yes, He is done with earthly Israel. The above actually represents the saved, the redeemed, the Israel of God, not earthly Israel: Read the following verses closely. Do you see they are the "congregation of saints", "redeemed out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation", and only the 144,000 who could learn that song? Ergo, the 144,000 and the saints are one in the samve.

[Psa 149:1 KJV] 1 Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, [and] his praise in the congregation of saints.
[Rev 5:9 KJV] 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
[Rev 14:3 KJV] 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth
 
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