Have the times of the gentiles ended in 1967?

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Well, if in fact 2,520 years from Cyrus 538BC to May, 14 1948 can be proven to work (and it works perfectly) you wasted about 15 minutes of your present existence writing that anti-Israel rant.

The Biblical truth (however disparate it may be of your opinions), is that prophetically Israel MUST be in the land BEFORE Christ returns. Oh yes.....a Temple must be erected beforehand as well.

And something else..... defying God's will in this matter is sheer folly and is bound to fail.

I'm not "anti-Israel", ~~~ as the physical nation does not exist, ~~~ I'm rather anti- "Antichrist" , which make me PRO- GOD ... a believer and follower, of Truth, The Way to Life. Which is why I'm out here "barking" the Truth ... Warning an End Times People, the Laodicean Church, Rev 4:14-22 ~ ~ "rich and in need of nothing", ... Not Even our Lord the Christ Jesus.

I'm pretty familiar, with Bible Prophecy, and I'm sure that the 2300 year prophecy, of Dan 8, is the longest time prophecy there is during these 6000 + years. Don't bother explaining it to me... cuz I'll not believe anything other than a "thus saith the Lord", where our God presents, 2-3 witnesses, establishing a matter and that have "types and shadows" proving His "Truth".

... and yes sir ! "defying God's Will in this matter is sheer folly and is bound to fail." ... I'm not out to say anything of my own accord, just explaining this Middle East Palestinian situation, from God's point of view, which I believe I did well enuf in my original post about "the nation of Israel" ending in 34AD and God's people, His Church being spiritual Israel, Here & NOW.

These people occupying the Holy Lands have a world political, religious origin, developed by the papacy and the Rothschild family, primarily. Do your own historical research. There is much documented historical evidence of this collusion, this one world, one religion agenda, initiated by the powers of the world, ... AND we know who THEY ARE:) ... The kings of the world, in cahoots with the UN-Holy Trinity .. The Dragon, The Beast & The False Prophet of Rev 13. ... Just sayin'.... Blessings Folks !

Today, the covenant promises are inherited by spiritual Israel—those who have the Faith OF Jesus and obedient to God's commandments. Rev 14:12

The Covenant Was Conditional
  1. Exodus 19:5–6 – “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure…”
  2. Deuteronomy 28:1–2, 15 – Blessings and curses based on obedience.
  3. Jeremiah 11:3–4, 10 – “Cursed be the man that obeyeth not the words of this covenant… they are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers…”
National Rejection of Christ
  1. John 1:11 – “He came unto his own, and his own received him not.”
  2. Luke 19:41–44 – Jesus weeps over Jerusalem, foretelling its destruction due to not recognizing “the time of thy visitation.”
  3. Matthew 21:43 – “The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”
The Outward Signs Lost Their Power
  1. Daniel 9:26–27 – The Messiah will “cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.”
  2. Hebrews 10:1–10 – The sacrificial system was a shadow of Christ’s offering; with His sacrifice, it became obsolete.
  3. Matthew 23:38 – “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.”
Modern Jews Are Not Spiritual Israel
  1. Romans 2:28–29 – “He is not a Jew, which is one outwardly… but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly…”
  2. Galatians 3:28–29 – “If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
  3. Romans 9:6–8 – “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel…”
The Sabbath and Covenant
  1. Exodus 31:16–17 – “Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath… for a perpetual covenant.”
  2. Isaiah 56:2–6 – Promises to the foreigner who keeps the Sabbath and holds fast God’s covenant.
  3. Ezekiel 20:12, 20 – “Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them…”
Continued Responsibility to Evangelize
  1. Romans 1:16 – “To the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
  2. Romans 10:1 – “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.”
  3. Acts 13:46–47 – Paul and Barnabas preached first to the Jews, then to the Gentiles after rejection.
Reverence for Their Past
  1. Romans 3:1–2 – “What advantage then hath the Jew?… unto them were committed the oracles of God.”
  2. Romans 9:4–5 – “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants… and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came…”
  3. Matthew 5:17 – “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets…”
Each of these verses harmonizes, that God’s covenant was never meant to be inherited by lineage alone, but through faith and obedience to Christ.
  • Do you see the Character of Christ, His Righteousness, being represented in these people, calling themselves Jews, in the middle East, slaughtering Palestinian, women and children?
  • Are you not aware of the Catholic Church's involvement in Zionism and the return of Jews to Palestine, returning this SO CALLED “Israel” to Palestine, in 1920-49 ?
  • Do you realize that many these people over in Palestine, calling themselves Jews, have no linage from Abraham / Jacob ? They are Khazarian Jews, who adopted, Judaism, back in the 800s.
  • Rev 2:9 "I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."
  • Rev 3:9 "Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you."( the "you" here is spiritual Israel )
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“And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be. And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.”
‭‭Zechariah‬ ‭14:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Yes, verses 8 and 9 obviously began fulfillment at Pentecost, have continued since and will culminate at the lord's return.
 
Now if I could be so sure I would like being that knowledgeable. But prophecies were seen to be wrong before. I am more inclined to believe that none are seeing prophecies fully with accuracies. I am sure I am seeing something or other that those with positions now on prophecy are all missing.
 
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Whether the answer to your question is Yes or No, what difference would it make to any of us here?


This is the Bible Discussion Forum. You can ask anything about the Bible here, so his question is valid. It doesn't hurt to ask and discuss that here. If you don't care about the question than just skip this thread.


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If you are one of the people who believes that the gathering of jews in Israel today is a prophecy fulfilled, I want to ask you a few questions:

1. Which verses talk about this gathering? The ones I see are all connected to the second coming of Jesus like Isaiah 11, wolf lying with the lamb etc.

2. Did the times of the gentiles mentioned in Luke 21 end in 1967 when the jews gained control of Jerusalem? If they did, what time are we living in now? Times of the jews?

The end is near but not yet.
 
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A better question is do you think the Lord is with Israel??

Just as the USA is the great protecter of Israel, the day is coming when another shall come and he will be known as the antichrist
 
A better question is do you think the Lord is with Israel??

Just as the USA is the great protecter of Israel, the day is coming when another shall come and he will be known as the antichrist

And the anti-Christ will fool the Jews, for a time. But then, their eyes will be opened.
 
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Today's Sunday school study was in exodus 33, Moses bargaining with God for His presence to be with His people to the new land.

Moses was very smart, wise. If the Israelite go into the promised land without God's presence, what good will it be?

This is a very interesting message. All the wonders of the world 🌎, if we have it without God's presence, how sad will that be?

The middle east land, without God's presence, what good will that be?

David said, out of God there is no goodness.
 
2. Did the times of the gentiles mentioned in Luke 21 end in 1967 when the jews gained control of Jerusalem? If they did, what time are we living in now? Times of the jews?
While it’s true that in the Six Day War the Israeli troops under the command of Moshe Dayan defeated the Jordanians and their allies and gained control over the whole city, nevertheless Dayan made the decision on his own, without consulting the prime minister or anyone else, to leave the Kingdom of Jordan in control of the Temple Mount.

I suppose it’s possible that that fact alone might be taken to mean that one small but highly significant part of Jerusalem is still living, to this day, in the “times of the Gentiles,” which therefore did not come to an end in 1967, after all. What do you think?