Actually it was MatthiasIt’s referring to the 12 tribes of Israel. But where else do you see 12. The 12 disciples when Judas died, who became the 12th disciple? It was Paul.
Actually it was MatthiasIt’s referring to the 12 tribes of Israel. But where else do you see 12. The 12 disciples when Judas died, who became the 12th disciple? It was Paul.
That’s who the apostles picked. But Jesus chose Paul.Actually it was Matthias
It says in Daniel that Jesus’s ministry would be for seven years. But in the middle after 3 1/2 years that Jesus would be cut off. That means crucified. When Paul was on the road to Damascus and Jesus appeared to him and spoke to him. He blinded him and then one of the followers of Jesus came and healed his blindness. Then he went into the desert for 3 1/2 years. That’s where Jesus taught him. Thus fulfilling the prophecy in Daniel. that’s why Paul’s writing is so beautiful.That’s who the apostles picked. But Jesus chose Paul.
Nope. God chose Matthias.That’s who the apostles picked. But Jesus chose Paul.
A sign can refer to something, but John didn't see the 12 apostles in the heavens, he saw Virgo, 12 stars in the crown, the sun, the moon, and Jupiter in her womb that is born after 9 months.It’s referring to the 12 tribes of Israel. But where else do you see 12. The 12 disciples when Judas died, who became the 12th disciple? It was Paul.
This parable appears to be complementary to that of the banquet. In that parable a man was found not dressed in wedding clothes and if there is any correlation between the two, failing to give honor to the groom, or the bride, or the father of the groom, or the entire wedding party, would be it.A brides maid is not someone "waiting to be a bride" it is a very different person during the wedding.
The word used is parthenos which means a marriageable daughter who has never had sex with a man. Why some translations make it "bridesmaids" is beyond me... but anyway, that's the meaning of the word. So I'd throw out "bridesmaids" because thats just a really dumb translation choice.Nowhere in the New Testament is the church referred to as "bridesmaids" for the wedding of the Lord. So then, who are these ten bridesmaids in Matthew 25?
What bridesmaids? Matthew 25 includes the parable of the Ten Virgins, but they are not called bridesmaids. As far as I am aware, the notion we have in the west of "bridesmaids" is not mentioned in Scripture.Nowhere in the New Testament is the church referred to as "bridesmaids" for the wedding of the Lord. So then, who are these ten bridesmaids in Matthew 25?
Yes, most English Bibles give the literal translation "virgins." There are a few (link below) that use "young women" instead and there are also occasional translators who think they are being helpful by changing it to "bridesmaids," evidently on the grounds that they had been picked to play a part in the wedding ceremony, possibly by escorting the bridegroom from his home to the place where the wedding was to take place.What bridesmaids? Matthew 25 includes the parable of the Ten Virgins, but they are not called bridesmaids. As far as I am aware, the notion we have in the west of "bridesmaids" is not mentioned in Scripture.
Good point. I call them Bridesmaids because five of them are locked out of the wedding. They can't be the bride because if you lock the bride out of the wedding there is no wedding. From what I understand so far in this thread there are two acceptable interpretations and the unusual thing is that rather than fight over them everyone seems willing to accept either one.What bridesmaids? Matthew 25 includes the parable of the Ten Virgins, but they are not called bridesmaids. As far as I am aware, the notion we have in the west of "bridesmaids" is not mentioned in Scripture.
Are you saying that these virgins are in fact representing the Bride and not bridesmaids? How do you lock the bride out of the wedding and still have a wedding? At the very least you would have to agree that the five foolish ones are bridesmaids, and not the bride.Yes, most English Bibles give the literal translation "virgins." There are a few (link below) that use "young women" instead and there are also occasional translators who think they are being helpful by changing it to "bridesmaids," evidently on the grounds that they had been picked to play a part in the wedding ceremony, possibly by escorting the bridegroom from his home to the place where the wedding was to take place.
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Matthew 25:1 - The Parable of the Ten Virgins
At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.biblehub.com
I forgot to mention one more thing. A seven year period is known in Hebrews as a "week of years", a Shemitah. A Shemitah, a week of years, always starts on Rosh Hashanah, otherwise known as "The Feast of Trumpets" which this year is September 11, 2026.Good point. I call them Bridesmaids because five of them are locked out of the wedding. They can't be the bride because if you lock the bride out of the wedding there is no wedding. From what I understand so far in this thread there are two acceptable interpretations and the unusual thing is that rather than fight over them everyone seems willing to accept either one.
The first is what I was taught, that the ten virgins represent the dead in Christ and the midnight cry that awakens them is the dead in Christ being raised prior to the rapture.
The problem with that interpretation is that half of the "dead in Christ" raised from the dead are not caught up into the wedding feast. So according to this the dead in Christ are raised and then half of them are left to wander the earth and be shut out of the wedding.
The second is that the ten virgins represent Christians in general. They are all Christians, they all have lamps that are lit, it is just that half are foolish and don't have the oil. They are all waiting for the bridegroom and when they hear He is coming they all rise up to go meet him.
OK, so then what is the midnight cry? It would seem to me that is a very significant part of this parable. Secondly why are they all asleep? I can believe that at the end of the age some, even most of the Christians would be asleep and need to be woken up, but not all.
So then I would propose a third interpretation that will only bother those Christians who are asleep. The ten virgins represent the Christians on earth at the time of the Lord's return who are asleep. The complete number would be 12, so 2 are awake, and 10 are asleep. So then what is the midnight cry which was supposed to wake them up? I have three proposals:
1. The Revelation 12 sign, a sign that John says "was a great sign in the heavens". This was followed a few months later with a birth announcement by Trump declaring that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. That sign was of a "Virgin" who did have a lamp lit (the sun is in Virgo during Feast of Trumpets). If you look at each of these Virgos year by year as a procession of ten that would take you to Feast of Trumpets 2026 which is September 11, 2026.
2. Prior to this on the Feast of Trumpets in 2014 we were told of two calves born with the number 7 on their foreheads. This reminded many of Pharoah's dream which Joseph interpreted as meaning 7 years of plenty and 7 years of famine. Pharaoh saw full grown cows, not new born calves. It takes five years for a cow to become fully grown. Five years later was 2019, the year Covid19 was released from the bioweapons lab. The seven years from 2019 to 2026 have indeed been very good years for wheat, and corn production as well as beef. This indicates a famine beginning in 2026 which has been confirmed by the shortage in fuel for fertilizer due to this war in Iran.
3. Another big sign which should have woken Christians up is the "Writing on the Wall" sign. Three solar eclipses from 2017 to 2024 cross the USA and write out the Hebrew letters "Aleph, Tav" which in Greek would be "Alpha and Omega". This sign began with the first eclipse crossing seven cities named Salem indicating the US would be at peace for seven years and that would be broken in 2025, which is what happened. There were a lot of others significant references to Biblical prophecy in this sign. X marked the spot in "little Egypt" illinois where each year they have a festival for "where the vultures gather". This sign was interpreted with a book that was published in the Spring of 2024 and it was confirmed when in the Fall of 2024 Biden was removed from office, similar to what happened the same day that Daniel interpreted the dream. We were also given a two year warning from this sign when it completed in 2024. It began by going over Uvalde, Texas where just two years earlier an elementary school was shot up and bunch of kids killed. This reminded us of Herod killing the children that were two years and younger. Sure enough two years later in 2026 the US bombed a girls school in Iran on the first day of bombing. And the MOU was announced on the two year anniversary of that sign being completed. A third big sign given to the US, and according to that sign we have been told that the nation has been weighed in the balance and found wanting. The fulfillment of that sign would be the overthrow of the government and that would take place in the evening, and based on the pattern with Biden being kicked out in the Fall we can read that as the Fall of 2026.
But even if you don't agree that these events are the "midnight cry designed to wake up the Christians on earth" you should at least be able to tell me what this "midnight cry" refers to? It can't be the dead in Christ rising. Now you might say that it would be Israel starting to rebuild the Temple. The problem is that according to Daniel 9 there is no mention of that, rather it is the covenant being "confirmed" that starts a seven year period and in the middle of that seven year period the oblations and sacrifices are forced to cease. It is reasonable to say that if Israel were to restart the oblations and sacrifices that would be a very big sign, the problem is that according to Daniel it would start on the first day of this seven year period we call the tribulation. Only a fool would wait till then to wake up. However, there was a sign relevant to this one year ago. On July 1, 2025 Israel burned a certified red heifer according to the law of Moses (meaning with a certified priesthood and while looking down into the Tabernacle which has also been raised in Shiloh). That gives them the ashes of a red heifer which they need to restart the oblations.
No, I am not saying anything at all about the ten virgins in the parable. I am saying something about the people who have been employed, at different times, to translate the New Testament from Greek into English.Are you saying that these virgins are in fact representing the Bride and not bridesmaids? How do you lock the bride out of the wedding and still have a wedding? At the very least you would have to agree that the five foolish ones are bridesmaids, and not the bride.
OK, now that we have cleared up the translation who do these 10 virgins represent?No, I am not saying anything at all about the ten virgins in the parable. I am saying something about the people who have been employed, at different times, to translate the New Testament from Greek into English.
You’re asking for my personal interpretation of the parable? The ten virgins represent people who have prepared themselves in advance for the arrival of the kingdom of God (half of them) and people who haven’t (the other half). That’s all. No other symbolism of any kind.OK, now that we have cleared up the translation who do these 10 virgins represent?
OK, that is the third interpretation I offered which is the only one I think you can defend. But then if they are saved and prepared for the Lord's return, what is the midnight cry that wakes them from sleep?You’re asking for my personal interpretation of the parable? The ten virgins represent people who have prepared themselves in advance for the arrival of the kingdom of God (half of them) and people who haven’t (the other half). That’s all. No other symbolism of any kind.
I also tied this to "the writing is on the wall" sign.OK, that is the third interpretation I offered which is the only one I think you can defend. But then if they are saved and prepared for the Lord's return, what is the midnight cry that wakes them from sleep?
It seems to me for any believer who has prepared themselves in advance for the arrival of the kingdom of God, that would be my primary interest.
That is why I have connected the parable of the ten virgins to the Revelation 12 sign.
OK, that is the third interpretation I offered which is the only one I think you can defend. But then if they are saved and prepared for the Lord's return, what is the midnight cry that wakes them from sleep?
It seems to me for any believer who has prepared themselves in advance for the arrival of the kingdom of God, that would be my primary interest.
That is why I have connected the parable of the ten virgins to the Revelation 12 sign.
That would make no sense. The rapture is in the twinkling of an eye, how would they have time to go and ask other believers to borrow oil. Verse 10 is the rapture. 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. The midnight cry wakes them up to get ready.The midnight cry that surprised those sleeping must be those raptured. Hallelujah!!![]()