Why do people keep calling The LORD 'Yahweh'?

[shyamuraix]

To answer your question, I will post this segment from a documentary by Former Hebrew Roots member Matt Powell.
To put this portion of the video in context, I should mention that the second and the forth preachers interviewed are false prophets. You'll recognize the 4th by the guy who wears his hand on his head like a hat.
Just ask if you are interested in the rest of the documentary.
I think it's important because many cults have sprung up that are leading into Judaism and to renounce the Lord Jesus.

There's a book called Judaism & It's Strange Gods.

It's very hard to find, but I have it and I can send it to you.

U see this topic is very hard to discuss because it faces major scrutiny and censorship since the Jews TODAY own all media and the dissemination of knowledge/information.

However, this book discusses how the Orthodox Judaics today are The Pharisees and Saducees from the New Testament times who denied and opposed Jesus Christ as The Messiah, and ultimately were the force behind him being crucified, being the children of Satan.

In the New Testament, those black boxes and phylactaries I believe they are called are even mentioned by The Lord Jesus!

This will open your eyes man! Hit me up for the book.. because I cant attach anything besides images files in the forum. It's in EPUB format..

 

[shyamuraix]

shyamuraix, You have my deep admiration my friend! I have a tough enough time with English (and 2 years of Spanish eons ago), but find it unfathomable to speak three! Well done!!
Respectfully I disagree that they must be 2 different deities. Over time MANY cultures have assimilated aspects of individual faiths into the practice of their own. I honestly believe such cultural differences, and regional pronunciations have resulted in these misinterpretations.
While root etymology HELPS define what a word may have ORIGINALLY meant, cultural vernacular sometimes negates such roots. For example, here in the States the word 'groovy' means good, even fabulous, while the etymological root bears absolutely NO resemblance to that definition. Words and their usage change, evolve and are culturally appropriated all the time, in every culture and has been such through the ages. But, as in all things, only God knows the full truth. We can only speculate making the best educated conclusions we are able.
Be well my friend, and again, I'm in awe of your linguistic agility!
Larry

we're not talking about English and we're not talking about pronounciations brother..

I'm telling you, that YEHOVAH from The Hebrew Bible, is NOT 'yahweh'..

'yahweh' is a different deity altogether, who is a 'storm-god' from the Sumerian creation myths, who is better known as Baal in the Old Testament.

If only God knows the truth, and we can't know the truth, then how can we believe anything?

Please study these subjects deeper before you engage in this conversation, it's not a matter of OPINION, its a matter of FACT.

Especially to those like me who were NOT BORN CHRISTIAN. And looked for EVIDENCE before believing..

 

[shyamuraix]

shyamuraix, You have my deep admiration my friend! I have a tough enough time with English (and 2 years of Spanish eons ago), but find it unfathomable to speak three! Well done!!
Respectfully I disagree that they must be 2 different deities. Over time MANY cultures have assimilated aspects of individual faiths into the practice of their own. I honestly believe such cultural differences, and regional pronunciations have resulted in these misinterpretations.
While root etymology HELPS define what a word may have ORIGINALLY meant, cultural vernacular sometimes negates such roots. For example, here in the States the word 'groovy' means good, even fabulous, while the etymological root bears absolutely NO resemblance to that definition. Words and their usage change, evolve and are culturally appropriated all the time, in every culture and has been such through the ages. But, as in all things, only God knows the full truth. We can only speculate making the best educated conclusions we are able.
Be well my friend, and again, I'm in awe of your linguistic agility!
Larry

Also brother I am not a scholar.. I only have a high school education, but I have been seeking for The True God and studied the scriptures for years and years as a skeptic, before I finally found ABSOLUTE proof that The Bible is The Word of God.

Once you have a 'measuring stick' for the truth, then you are able to compare it to everything else and see whether they are true or not.

Especially in this age where information is overloaded, and people are just too confused and misdirected on the origins of things.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

There's a book called Judaism & It's Strange Gods.

It's very hard to find, but I have it and I can send it to you.

U see this topic is very hard to discuss because it faces major scrutiny and censorship since the Jews TODAY own all media and the dissemination of knowledge/information.

There were certainly some very wealthy ones who bought control of Hollyweird, major media (TV, magazines, newspapers, porn, publishing houses, etc.)

However, this book discusses how the Orthodox Judaics today are The Pharisees and Saducees from the New Testament times who denied and opposed Jesus Christ as The Messiah, and ultimately were the force behind him being crucified, being the children of Satan.

In spite of the fact that I love my Jewish relatives and have had a few friends and coworkers over my life, I also consider the Orthodox Jews to be modern day rendition of the Pharisees. I'm just being honest after learning about their beliefs. They are victims of their leaders and like us all, have been fooled at some point or another.
In all honesty, their rabbis have no semblance with anything biblical. They also reject the resurrection, existence of Heaven and Hell, the literal miracles. In those ways they certainly resemble Sadducees too.


Documentary: Marching to Zion<

In the New Testament, those black boxes and phylactaries I believe they are called are even mentioned by The Lord Jesus!

This will open your eyes man! Hit me up for the book.. because I cant attach anything besides images files in the forum. It's in EPUB format..

Thank you very much for the offer.
Can it be read on Android based phones?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

@shyamuraix ,

The previous post contains another documentary, Marching to Zion that I want to share while looking for the other, that I see was also shadow banned.
I finally found it. I wish some people I baptized had watched this before they moved and got into a neo-judaic cult.

I hope you enjoy it.

 

[Lovette]

I love the name yahweh, Hebrew word YHVH, God's only personal name.

Behold hand, behold nail.

This very name points to Jesus.

Look it up. From the beginning of OT, scripture already point to Jesus.

One theory suggests that YHWH originally was the sound of breathing, YH being inhalation, WH being exhalation.

 

[shyamuraix]

There were certainly some very wealthy ones who bought control of Hollyweird, major media (TV, magazines, newspapers, porn, publishing houses, etc.)

In spite of the fact that I love my Jewish relatives and have had a few friends and coworkers over my life, I also consider the Orthodox Jews to be modern day rendition of the Pharisees. I'm just being honest after learning about their beliefs. They are victims of their leaders and like us all, have been fooled at some point or another.
In all honesty, their rabbis have no semblance with anything biblical. They also reject the resurrection, existence of Heaven and Hell, the literal miracles. In those ways they certainly resemble Sadducees too.


Documentary: Marching to Zion<

Thank you very much for the offer.
Can it be read on Android based phones?

Yes sir, that's why it's in EPUB. But I have noticed that some iPhones are unable to open this format.

I get most of it from an online website where you can download ALMOST any book from. This is the link :

https://z-library.im

 

[shyamuraix]

One theory suggests that YHWH originally was the sound of breathing, YH being inhalation, WH being exhalation.

yes sir I have come across this as well, but the way the modern day Jews pronounce it is with a strong V as in 'VEH'. Which makes sense, since the Hebrew alphabet for V is 'Vav', but it stopped making sense to me since I found out that there are many sources on this Sumerian/Ancient Near east pagan deity who is identified as a Storm 'god' named Yahweh. There are also photos of this deity in idol form, which could NOT be the LORD of the Old Testament, since He is clearly and absolutely against idols.

 

[shyamuraix]

@shyamuraix ,

The previous post contains another documentary, Marching to Zion that I want to share while looking for the other, that I see was also shadow banned.
I finally found it. I wish some people I baptized had watched this before they moved and got into a neo-judaic cult.

I hope you enjoy it.

That's awesome. But that's also the problem, PRECISELY how you mentioned it, these neo-Judaic types use the Talmud, which they will not admit.. But it is THEIR interpratation of The Torah, which basically means The Law.

They claim that they got this from the 72 elders who went up to Mount Sinai with Moses.

They are very deceptive and clever.. These are not Jews from the Old Testament, because Israelites are NOT JEWS, Israelites are comprised from the 12 sons of Jacob/Israel, and a true Jew is one that comes from the tribe of Judah, which is where the word Jew even comes from.

As the Scripture states :

it is the Christians who are the true Jews (Matthew 8:11-12; Romans
2:28-29; Galatians 6:15-16).

 

[GWH]

not talking about Elohim, im talking about YEHOVAH.

If you know about Concordances, every word has a number. Elohim is H430..

YEHOVAH/The LORD is H3068

Yahweh is the ancient Hebrew for YHWH (God/yod, he, vav, he). When reading Scripture aloud the word Adonai (Lord) was substituted. In the 13th century the vowels in Adonai were merged with YHWH to produce Yahowah (Jehovah). The meaning is associated with Being (HWH) per Exo. 3:14. [Source: AI & Wikipedia article on the Tetragrammaton]

 

[shyamuraix]

Sorry mate, A.I and Wikipedia aren't considered 'primary sources'.

As mentioned, there are scholars who study these things, whos sources date back long before A.I and Wikipedia.

Also, YahWeh is NOT Ancient Hebrew for YHWH. If it was, then it would be in the Masoritic Texts, which is the earliest manuscripts for The Hebrew Old Testament, which is what the Septuagint is translated from.


Your explanation makes no sense whatsoever.

Also to avoid future embarassment, please do not cite A.I or Wikipedia as your sources.. and also Tetrgrammaton.. People who study these things seriously will laugh at you. These are Kabbalistic explanations and interpretations.

 

[Gideon300]

This name is mentioned nowhere in the Hebrew scriptures, neither is it in the language of Ancient Hebrew.

Based on my research, it is Yiddish, and Yahweh is NOT The LORD of the Old Testament.

Any thoughts?

The Jews did not spell out the name of God. Even now, many will write G_d out of reverence. "Yahweh" is simply an attempt to fill in the blanks. When God spoke to Moses from the burning bush, He used the name YHWH. There are over 30 other references to YHWH in the OT.

 

[shyamuraix]

The Jews did not spell out the name of God. Even now, many will write G_d out of reverence. "Yahweh" is simply an attempt to fill in the blanks. When God spoke to Moses from the burning bush, He used the name YHWH. There are over 30 other references to YHWH in the OT.

So how did they write the scriptures or call out to The LORD if they could not pronounce His name?|

Is he like allah then? or his unlettered prophet? Lol.

There is no such word as 'yahweh' in the Old Testament Hebrew manuscripts.

There is however 'Yehovah" which is translated to LORD, all caps, in the KJV, which appears 6521 times in the Old testament.

Ur either just making this up, or you are regurgitating what you have been taught by other sources which you have come to accept as truth.

 

[GWH]

Sorry mate, A.I and Wikipedia aren't considered 'primary sources'.

As mentioned, there are scholars who study these things, whos sources date back long before A.I and Wikipedia.

Also, YahWeh is NOT Ancient Hebrew for YHWH. If it was, then it would be in the Masoritic Texts, which is the earliest manuscripts for The Hebrew Old Testament, which is what the Septuagint is translated from.


Your explanation makes no sense whatsoever.

Also to avoid future embarassment, please do not cite A.I or Wikipedia as your sources.. and also Tetrgrammaton.. People who study these things seriously will laugh at you. These are Kabbalistic explanations and interpretations.

Your post does not include any sources, so sorry yourself.
AI and Wikipedia reference and summarize primary sources.
You should be embarrassed for ranting instead of edifying.

 

[shyamuraix]

Your post does not include any sources, so sorry yourself.
AI and Wikipedia reference and summarize primary sources.
You should be embarrassed for ranting instead of edifying.

This is my source. A Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon.

If ur using A.I and Wikipedia, you might as well become Muslim! Since that's what they use to verify their scriptures..

Do you understand how A.I algorithms and models work?

Don't be mad at me because you didn't do enough studying. Show me where in the Old Testament the word 'Yahweh" is mentioned.

I'M NOT ASKING FOR 'YHWH'.. I'm asking for 'YAHWEH'. 2 different things. Don't tell me about the 'name that cant be pronounced'.

If it cant be pronounced, then how did the OT prophets call upon the 'name of the LORD'? Did they hum it? Did they sing it?

Just because you have AN OPINION, it does not warrant you to give it when it comes to a subject matter you are unfamiliar with.. But I guess that's just the consequences of the internet and giving everyone access to it eh?

 

[Gideon300]

So how did they write the scriptures or call out to The LORD if they could not pronounce His name?|

Is he like allah then? or his unlettered prophet? Lol.

There is no such word as 'yahweh' in the Old Testament Hebrew manuscripts.

There is however 'Yehovah" which is translated to LORD, all caps, in the KJV, which appears 6521 times in the Old testament.

Ur either just making this up, or you are regurgitating what you have been taught by other sources which you have come to accept as truth.

Not could not, would not, in writing anyway. YHWH is known as the tetragrammaton. No one knows for sure what the vowels should be. That's all I'm saying. KJV got it wrong.

 

[lrs68]

Depends, are you reading the Hebrew Torah or the teanslated Greek version?

Yahveh!

 

[shyamuraix]

Not could not, would not, in writing anyway. YHWH is known as the tetragrammaton. No one knows for sure what the vowels should be. That's all I'm saying. KJV got it wrong.

Prove it..

Tetragrammaton is Kabbalistic.

I don't think you understand the difference between Judaism and The Torah.. 2 different things.

Judaism is NOT the study of The Torah.. it is a separate sect of separatists that interpret the law in their own way..

It also mentions Jesus Christ burning in feces and Mary being a prostitute.. So it's not used as a whole in The Bible, or to connect to the New Testament.

These things are not taught in seminary or at your church..

 

[shyamuraix]

Depends, are you reading the Hebrew Torah or the teanslated Greek version?

Yahveh!

(Exodus 15:3) The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.


Yep, its "YEHOVAH".

Yahveh is Yiddish. It's not Hebrew.

Jews in Israel who practice Talmudic Judaism, do NOT SPEAK HEBREW, they speak Yiddish.

These are the same people who reject Jesus Christ. And you follow their standards, while calling yourself Christian?

This must be some kind of joke.

Or perhaps Americans have been programmed to worship the nation of Israel today and pay tribute to them eh.

Guess ya'll never read Revelation..

(Revelation 3:9) Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

 

[shyamuraix]

Not could not, would not, in writing anyway. YHWH is known as the tetragrammaton. No one knows for sure what the vowels should be. That's all I'm saying. KJV got it wrong.

also, how did they 'call upon the name of the LORD", if His name cannot be spoken or cannot be pronounced?

Sounds dumb.