Are you saying the foolish virgins were planted by the enemy of the Lord?
The Parable of the Ten Virgins does not refer to the church
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Lol.
You totally made that up.
They all had oil at one time.
It even says the wise were wise FOR THE EXTRA OIL.
NOT, for having oil vs some with a totally dry brand new lamp.
What you actually need, if you are going to stick with your theory , (change the parable), is, to somehow make it ALSO SAY, they were unbelievers.( SURLY that is behind your efforts)
IOW, you would need to ASSUME they never had ANY oil in their lamps.
Totally departing from the parable.
So then to reiterate the only interpretation that presents this parable as being prophetic and that provides a falsification check, so that you can either reject or confirm the prophetic interpretation.
1. The Midnight cry was the Revelation 12 Sign on the Feast of Trumpets in 2017 -- a woman (Virgo) in the heavens, crowned with 12 stars, clothed with the sun, the moon at her feet giving birth to the manchild (Jupiter) that had. been in the womb for nine months ever since Hannukah.
2. The ten virgins that are "bridesmaids" lighting the way to escort the bride to the wedding in the night are the "Ten Virgos" that all are clothed with the sun and the moon is at their feet each year at Feast of Trumpets. The literal Hebrew expression for this feast is "Day of the awakening blast" which is what the midnight cry is. Beginning with 2017 we will have the tenth Virgo this Feast of Trumpets, 9/11/2026.
3. The Manchild is seen in the Old Testament type of Josiah who became king when he was eight. So even though we have 10 virgos by September 11th, it has only been 9 years by the Hebrew calendar and by the Gregorian calendar the Manchild is still 8, it was born September 23, 2017.
4. The parable specifically talks about these virgins waking up from sleep, and lighting their lamps beginning in 2017. This is true, we have had many people start Youtube channels concerning prophecy, presenting the current events from a Biblical point of view, and with dreams and visions. Some have continued for the full nine years others have "gone out" for lack of oil from the word of God. However, the term that Jesus uses is not "lit their lamps" but trimmed their lamps. That is where you cut off the old charred part of the wick. A good example is this fresh look at this parable relating it to the 2017 sign in the heavens of Virgo.
Further support that the midnight cry refers to the Feast of trumpets, the term quoted as trumpets in Leviticus 23:24 is usually translated as "shout".
For example: Numbers 23:21 He hath not beheld iniquity in Jacob, neither hath he seen perverseness in Israel: the LORD his God is with him, and the shout of a king is among them.
Another example Joshua 6:5 And it shall come to pass, that when they make a long blast with the ram's horn, and when ye hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout and the wall of the city shall fall down flat, and the people shall ascend up every man straight before him.
So there are great shouts in the Bible, the parable of the ten virgins is about the "Midnight shout" on the Feast of shouting.
1. The Midnight cry was the Revelation 12 Sign on the Feast of Trumpets in 2017 -- a woman (Virgo) in the heavens, crowned with 12 stars, clothed with the sun, the moon at her feet giving birth to the manchild (Jupiter) that had. been in the womb for nine months ever since Hannukah.
2. The ten virgins that are "bridesmaids" lighting the way to escort the bride to the wedding in the night are the "Ten Virgos" that all are clothed with the sun and the moon is at their feet each year at Feast of Trumpets. The literal Hebrew expression for this feast is "Day of the awakening blast" which is what the midnight cry is. Beginning with 2017 we will have the tenth Virgo this Feast of Trumpets, 9/11/2026.
3. The Manchild is seen in the Old Testament type of Josiah who became king when he was eight. So even though we have 10 virgos by September 11th, it has only been 9 years by the Hebrew calendar and by the Gregorian calendar the Manchild is still 8, it was born September 23, 2017.
4. The parable specifically talks about these virgins waking up from sleep, and lighting their lamps beginning in 2017. This is true, we have had many people start Youtube channels concerning prophecy, presenting the current events from a Biblical point of view, and with dreams and visions. Some have continued for the full nine years others have "gone out" for lack of oil from the word of God. However, the term that Jesus uses is not "lit their lamps" but trimmed their lamps. That is where you cut off the old charred part of the wick. A good example is this fresh look at this parable relating it to the 2017 sign in the heavens of Virgo.
Further support that the midnight cry refers to the Feast of trumpets, the term quoted as trumpets in Leviticus 23:24 is usually translated as "shout".
For example: Numbers 23:21 He hath not beheld iniquity in Jacob, neither hath he seen perverseness in Israel: the LORD his God is with him, and the shout of a king is among them.
Another example Joshua 6:5 And it shall come to pass, that when they make a long blast with the ram's horn, and when ye hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout and the wall of the city shall fall down flat, and the people shall ascend up every man straight before him.
So there are great shouts in the Bible, the parable of the ten virgins is about the "Midnight shout" on the Feast of shouting.
If you want to relate this parable to the Old Testament, it wasn't putting God to the test and being rebellious, all ten of the virgins did hear the midnight cry and did wake up and did trim their lamps and did go out to meet the bridegroom. No, the appropriate Old Testament reference is in Joshua when they gave a great shout and the walls of Jericho came down. The word for "great shout" is the same word used in Leviticus for a day of "trumpets", could simply be "a day of great shouting". The word is generally translated as shout or cry. So then, the "midnight cry" is a specific reference to the Feast of "Trumpets" when the two witnesses report to the rulers that they have seen the new moon and the cries begin.
For example, Joshua 6:20 uses both great shout and trumpets. However, the word in Leviticus 23 for Feast of Trumpets is not the word in this verse for trumpets it is the word in this verse for "great shout".
So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
There is another point to the Parable of the ten virgins that no one has discussed except for me.
1. Trimming the wick means to cut off the old charred portion of the wick so that it is "new".
and
2. Half of these virgins, the foolish ones, have to go and buy new oil.
Both of these point to something new from the word of God, not that same old, dead, charred teaching. The best example of this being the teaching that these 10 bridesmaids represent the church.
Feast of trumpets is in reality the Feast of Shouting, the feast of the Midnight cry. It is also the Feast of New oil. It is the feast of the first fruits of new oil.
For example, saying that Revelation 12 Sign was the midnight cry and that the ten virgins represent 10 Feast of Trumpets over nine years and that this has escorted us to 9/11/2026 is New oil from this parable.
Another example is relating the Manchild to King Josiah with the timeline from 2017 to 2026. This is new oil. The people having a problem with this are those who do not base their exposition on the Bible but rather on what their preachers told them. This is the key point that everyone has missed. A lamp is used every evening. These lamps weren't something special for the wedding, they didn't have electricity, at night you need a lamp. The foolish virgins have run out of oil because it is time to buy the new oil. It was like firewood, you buy enough to get you through the year and now it is time to buy more and they have not done that.
1. Trimming the wick means to cut off the old charred portion of the wick so that it is "new".
and
2. Half of these virgins, the foolish ones, have to go and buy new oil.
Both of these point to something new from the word of God, not that same old, dead, charred teaching. The best example of this being the teaching that these 10 bridesmaids represent the church.
Feast of trumpets is in reality the Feast of Shouting, the feast of the Midnight cry. It is also the Feast of New oil. It is the feast of the first fruits of new oil.
For example, saying that Revelation 12 Sign was the midnight cry and that the ten virgins represent 10 Feast of Trumpets over nine years and that this has escorted us to 9/11/2026 is New oil from this parable.
Another example is relating the Manchild to King Josiah with the timeline from 2017 to 2026. This is new oil. The people having a problem with this are those who do not base their exposition on the Bible but rather on what their preachers told them. This is the key point that everyone has missed. A lamp is used every evening. These lamps weren't something special for the wedding, they didn't have electricity, at night you need a lamp. The foolish virgins have run out of oil because it is time to buy the new oil. It was like firewood, you buy enough to get you through the year and now it is time to buy more and they have not done that.
Actually just the opposite.
The wicked are not, and can NOT be metaphorically virgins.
Virgins =pure, undefined, set apart.
They all had light, oil, vessels, were all waiting for Jesus, were all separated to wait for Jesus ,( OBEDIANT), and the foolish asked for an impartation of oil.
This is taken from Daniel Larimer, everything in purple is from him.
The parable of the ten virgins gives us a number of key references to the Feast of Trumpets.
1. Midnight cry, basically the name. Feast of shouting is a valid interpretation, and it begins in the night when you see the new moon.
2. You need to buy new oil, which begins on the Feast of Trumpets (Midnight cry) and ends on the first day of Hanukkah when the two witnesses, the two lampstands, light the first candle. On that day the door is shut for offering new oil.
3. The 144,000 are sealed with the oil and "after this" we see a great multitude that has come out of the tribulation. The 144,000 are the Lord's evangelical force during the tribulation, they are sealed with the oil and cannot be harmed, and they assist the Lord in this great harvest during the tribulation. The 144,000 would be the wise virgins who had the oil and the foolish ones are the ones who bought the oil from those who sell, the two witnesses and get saved out of the tribulation.
Oil is Used to Anoint the 144,000
I believe the oil and the wine are those anointed and empowered by the spirit to witness.
All of that said, I think the biggest reason we cannot see a rapture yet is because debts/sins are not forgiven until the Day of Atonement. It is on the Day of Atonement that the Jubilee is proclaimed. Any rapture prior to the Day of Atonement would be premature.
The fact that they are holding palm branches in their hands is the key that they come from the Feast of Tabernacles.
The parable of the ten virgins gives us a number of key references to the Feast of Trumpets.
1. Midnight cry, basically the name. Feast of shouting is a valid interpretation, and it begins in the night when you see the new moon.
2. You need to buy new oil, which begins on the Feast of Trumpets (Midnight cry) and ends on the first day of Hanukkah when the two witnesses, the two lampstands, light the first candle. On that day the door is shut for offering new oil.
3. The 144,000 are sealed with the oil and "after this" we see a great multitude that has come out of the tribulation. The 144,000 are the Lord's evangelical force during the tribulation, they are sealed with the oil and cannot be harmed, and they assist the Lord in this great harvest during the tribulation. The 144,000 would be the wise virgins who had the oil and the foolish ones are the ones who bought the oil from those who sell, the two witnesses and get saved out of the tribulation.
Instead of all these wild guesses at who the foolish virgins are why not simply state the obvious, the wise virgins are the 144,000. The 144,000 are virgins and they light the way for those in the tribulation to get to the wedding feast.
Why? Because they have been sealed with the new oil. They trimmed their wicks and they had the new oil to light the lamps when the context called for it. The ten virgins take us to the start of the tribulation and that in turn is this midnight walk in the dark, with the way lit by these lamps to the wedding feast at the end of the tribulation.
Why? Because they have been sealed with the new oil. They trimmed their wicks and they had the new oil to light the lamps when the context called for it. The ten virgins take us to the start of the tribulation and that in turn is this midnight walk in the dark, with the way lit by these lamps to the wedding feast at the end of the tribulation.
I understand your frustration. I would feel frustrated as well if someone had checkmated me, yet I was unwilling to accept it.
Nowhere in the text does it say they EVER had any oil.
YOU are inserting that they did.
You also added to Scripture. VERY dangerous!
Where does it say they took EXTRA oil?
3Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
If you understand the 5 wise virgins represent 144,000 then the ten virgins represent 288,000.
1 Chronicles 25:7 — the only place 288 appears as an explicit count in the biblical text. It records 288 as the total number of those trained in singing to the LORD who were skillful, among the Levitical musicians appointed under King David. Popular devotional sites gloss this as representing divine orchestration and structured worship, derived from 24 priestly divisions multiplied by 12 — worth noting that's a devotional gloss, not something the text itself states; the text just gives the raw headcount.
This is my point. Prior to the rapture there are 288,000 trained in "singing to the Lord", it is 24 priestly divisions multiplied by 12 representing the Christians who are priests to God. Five are wise, they have bought new oil, they have trimmed their lamps meaning they cut off the old, charred portion of the wick which was previous bible expositions and have lit their lamps which are fueled with new oil.
The foolish virgins have lamps that are going out because the old oil simply will not fuel their lamps. They need to buy new oil.
Genesis 24:22 mentions two bracelets Eleazar gave Rebekah when seeking a bride for Isaac — the Hebrew word for "bracelet" is "tsamid," gematria value 144, and TWO of them suggests 144 × 2 = 288.
Think of these two groups as two bracelets for the Bride. This is what the ten virgins do, they present two groups. This also emphasizes the dual status. Paul said it was his job to present a chaste virgin to Christ as the bride. Paul is a believer, he is part of the body of believers and as such he is part of the bride. But in this verse he is acting as someone who is one with Eleazar as a servant to present the church to the Lord. He is both a slave of Jesus Christ and also a member of the body.
In Leviticus 19:20 the Hebrew word "charaph" ("betrothed") has a numeric value of 288, tying the number to those called to be the bride of Christ.
Betrothed is not a bride. Think of Moses coming down from the mountain with the two tablets, that is the marriage covenant which he then breaks. If you are a foolish virgin who is betrothed then the marriage covenant can be broken.
288 is also the gematria value of "ibbur," meaning "gestation." That's notable given your Manchild/Josiah gestation framework.
This is the scariest interpretation for the foolish virgins. When a baby is born, the placenta is thrown into the trash and burned. You can argue a birth has two pieces, the baby and the placenta. If you are left behind after the rapture there is a very real danger in being thrown into the trash and burned during the tribulation.
1 Chronicles 25:7 is the cleanest, black and white interpretation of the 144,000. They are in the priestly service, there are 24 orders and 144,000 = 6000 x 24. Half of those in this order are wise and half are foolish and being foolish runs the very real risk of eternal damnation.
288 appears and that is 2 groups of 144. 24 appears and 6x24 = 144. The number 1,000 is often used in the Bible to mean ultimate completeness or fulfillment. To multiply by 10 = complete. 1,000 = 10x10x10.
Also in some translations of Luke the Lord gets 72 disciples that go out two by two. Multiply that by 2,000 and you get 144,000
Wow.
SMH
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"The components don't represent anything".
"Just as wise virgins prepare for the late arrival of the bridegroom, wise Christians should prepare for the delayed arrival of Jesus Christ."
Lol
You just made the allegorical conclusions that :
1) "Virgins" are used allegorically for Christians.
2) "The bridegroom" is used allegorically for Jesus.
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"It might seem odd to some who has pre-decided that all parables are allegorical, but it isn't odd for those who allow the story and the context to demonstrate whether it is allegorical or not"
PAR'ABLE, noun [Latin parabola; Gr. to throw forward or against, to compare to or against; as in confero, collatum, to set together, or one thing with another.] A fable or allegorical relation or representation of something real in life or nature, from which a moral is drawn for instruction; such as the parable of the trees choosing a king, Judges 9:1; the parable of the poor man and his lamb. 2 Samuel 12:1; the parable of the ten virgins, Matthew 25:1.
PAR'ABLE, verb transitive To represent by fiction or fable.
...you were sayin????
The definition you cited says "fiction or fable." Right? So a parable can be either one or the other. We know that The Parable of the Ten Virgins" is not a fable because it contains no fabulous language. Therefore, the story is a fictional story, not allegorical. The elements of the story don't have symbolic meaning. The oil is just oil, the virgins are just virgins, etc. The story, taken as a whole, makes the analogy.