The writer nowhere makes that distinction that they were not saved... that is your eisegesis.
Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?
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The writer nowhere makes that distinction that they were not saved... that is your eisegesis.
The following, "So now, the author of Hebrews says, if these Hebrew Christians return to the sacrificial system, then there is no sacrifice there which can offer forgiveness of sins or eternal life."
Nowhere does the text in Hebrews 10 say this.
In the Levitical system, animal sacrifices were strictly limited to unintentional sins, errors, or ritual impurities committed in ignorance or weakness. Sins committed defiantly ("with a high hand") or willfully carried a penalty of being "cut off" from the community or capital punishment, with no prescribed animal sacrifice to cover them.
The writer is making very clear connections between the ineffective old system and the complete atonement offered by Christ Jesus.
Either Jesus is your perfection or you are fall short of it, way short.
No, he is urging them to persevere in faith. He doesn't stipulate whether it's alive or dead because he doesn't know who in his audience has true faith. Scripture often speaks to believers according to their profession. It warns them to persevere in their faith. If they don't persevere, their faith is shown to be dead. If they do, it's shown to be living.
Hebrews 10:26 isn't about whether or not you sin willfully. It is about which sacrifice you trust for your sins after having received the knowledge of the truth.
The truth is this: The blood of Jesus was sufficient to take away all sins once and for all, whereas the blood of bulls and goats was not.
Nowhere in the text does the writer of Hebrews say that those Hebrews who "drew back to perdition and did not believe to the saving of the soul" were "saved." (Hebrews 10:39) I read Hebrews chapter 10 in context and properly harmonized scripture with scripture before reaching my conclusion on doctrine.
The entire book affirms it is written to believers, saving myself some time....
There are no clear signs in the text to indicate switching of the audience between “true” believers and “professing” believers.
The burden of proof for a spiritually-mixed readership rests on those who propose this view.
This is not simply an argument from silence.
It is logical to assume that the writer is addressing one consistent group of Jewish believers unless a change is clearly indicated by the text. The idea that the readership switches back and forth between believers and unbelievers seems to be governed by its proponents’ need to support their theological position rather than by evidence from the text.
There are more but here are three...
First, the writer calls the audience “holy brethren” (Heb 3:1).
Second, the writer describes himself and his readers (“we”) as ones who “have faith” (Heb 10:39). This would be true only of believers.
Third, readers are referred to as “sons” who have a relationship with God the Father (Heb 12:5, 7, 8). Unbelievers, professing to believe or otherwise, do not have a “son” relationship with God the Father until they are adopted and have eternal life (Gal 4:5).
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Those Hebrews who reject the blood sacrifice of Jesus as sufficient after receiving the knowledge of the truth have trampled the Son of God underfoot, drew back to perdition and did not believe the saving of the soul. Those who accepted the blood sacrifice of Jesus as sufficient have believed to the saving of the soul.
That is truth but No, The truth as seen in the immediate context is that we who have been sanctified He also perfected whereas the Holy Spirit Speaks also when He saith, God has put His Law in our hearts and in our minds. We now have confidence to enter in the Holiest of all through the veil that is to say His flesh.
Heb 10:26 is the topic. You said,
To which was said, The sacrifice is so much more than forgiveness in which you are using. It is the gateway into the new Life.
Chapter 10 also says, We whom He sanctified he has perfected. Whereof this perfectness the Holy Ghost witnesses to us when God has said. I will put my Law into their hearts and in their minds I will write them. Behold old things have passed away and we have become new and our lives are unto God. The old man has passed away. We are dead but alive. Yet not us but Christ lives in us. And the life we now live in the flesh we live by the faith of the son of God who gave himself for us. We are a new creation in Christ Jesus begotten by the word of truth. The word is in our heart and in our mouth that we do it, that is the word of Faith in which we are to preach. For with the heart man believes into righteousness. And assenting is made unto the soul.
DO you agree with the Word as put forth above?
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That is not the context of the verses in questionThose Hebrews who reject the blood sacrifice of Jesus as sufficient after receiving the knowledge of the truth have trampled the Son of God underfoot, drew back to perdition and did not believe the saving of the soul. Those who accepted the blood sacrifice of Jesus as sufficient have believed to the saving of the soul.
Those Hebrews who reject the blood sacrifice of Jesus as sufficient after receiving the knowledge of the truth have trampled the Son of God underfoot, drew back to perdition and did not believe the saving of the soul. Those who accepted the blood sacrifice of Jesus as sufficient have believed to the saving of the soul.
Correct, that does not mean they lost their spiritual salvation, nor does it mean they were not believers... they were however believers who were not holding fast to the perfect sacrifice... you think it was easy for them to abandon all they were raised in.. why do think the writer makes these impassioned pleas.
The truth saves our soul in time, where as spiritual salvation happens once in time, but we can forfeit salvation of the soul, but still be saved. That is the hard truth.
Sometimes God even takes life away.. Ananias and Sapphira come to mind.
Context, they were not living the 21st century America.
Anyway I know you have a modern day lens of non-believers in the mix, it is one way to get around the salvation can be lost argument, but it is not the truth nor scriptural.
Although the letter of Hebrews is written to Jewish believers, that does not mean that EVERYONE mixed in with this large group of professing believers are all genuine believers. Hence, willfully sinned after receiving the knowledge of the truth (Hebrews 10:26) and drew back to perdition, and did not believe the saving of the soul. (Hebrews 10:39)
It's not hard to find make believers mixed in with genuine believers throughout scripture, in various churches today and on various Christian forum sites.
Getting back to Hebrews, check out Hebrews 4:1 - Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. 3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:
“So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ”
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
The writer is clearly concerned with believers no longer being faithful ... there is a distinction between being born again and living that out.
When you acknowledge this as I told you last year, scripture will make a lot more sense.
Their letters are written to exhort believers, when Paul was told of people living in sin he instructed the church to send them out.
It is really bad hermeneutics to try and splice and dice scripture that way as though the writer has believers and unbelievers in their mind as they write letters to the various newly established ekklesia.
The letters are written to encourage, edify and instruct believers that is the reason they were written and as a record for us.
The writer is concerned with those who draw back to perdition and do not believe to the saving of the soul. Nothing is mentioned here about no longer being faithful or no longer being saved. Those who are saved are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. (Hebrews 10:10) For by one offering he has perfected forever them that are sanctified. (Hebrews 10:14)
It is not they were not saved... I agree with Bible Gateway here, since we know the writer is encouraging the congregants to stay the course.
The "rest" mentioned here refers to the spiritual peace, salvation, and victorious life found in Jesus, which is compared to the Promised Land the ancient Israelites failed to enter. The passage encourages Christians to actively trust in God’s promises rather than relying on their own efforts to find true spiritual security