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Well, nothing you said enlightened anyone.
What is your evidence that Trump is not a Christian?
And is leaning one way but discerning the other way no indicative of confusion?
We always have to vote for the lesser of two evils (= the worser of two goods), because no one is perfect (including us).
Are you surprised to learn this?
Why do you think you are a better Christian than Trump?

You seeing a Christian, someone with the mind of Christ in president trump tells me more about you than anything we've discussed in the past 6 months.

And that is truly sad.
 
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You ought to be sorry for not knowing that surrendering life for someone may manifest surrendering to Christ.
May we all be as surrendering as Trump!
I'm not American so I am unbiased. Mr Trump has done some good things. However, he is also prone to exaggeration, self promotion in the extreme, and a fairly loose association with the truth. He also vindictive in the extreme. Not much love for his enemies, or even his friends if they upset him.

I hope Iran is crushed under his administration. I decry his approval of Putin and how he treated Zelensky. However, his pressure on Europe has forced them to defend themselves, so that's kudos to Mr Trump.
 
I'm not American so I am unbiased. Mr Trump has done some good things. However, he is also prone to exaggeration, self promotion in the extreme, and a fairly loose association with the truth. He also vindictive in the extreme. Not much love for his enemies, or even his friends if they upset him.

I hope Iran is crushed under his administration. I decry his approval of Putin and how he treated Zelensky. However, his pressure on Europe has forced them to defend themselves, so that's kudos to Mr Trump.

So Gideon 300, do you see a Christian when you perceive Trump? Or do you see just a good worldly leader?

I consider myself not to be of this world, so i perceive him to be none of my business.

What say you?
 
I'm not American so I am unbiased. Mr Trump has done some good things. However, he is also prone to exaggeration, self promotion in the extreme, and a fairly loose association with the truth. He also vindictive in the extreme. Not much love for his enemies, or even his friends if they upset him.

I hope Iran is crushed under his administration. I decry his approval of Putin and how he treated Zelensky. However, his pressure on Europe has forced them to defend themselves, so that's kudos to Mr Trump.

You are correct in saying that Trump has done good things, but he has the faults you cited except for being vindictive.
He is quite willing to forgive and work with former opponents--almost to a fault or his own detriment.

He has much love for American, willing to sacrifice his wealth and his life to save it from the Marxists and Islamists.
You may need to read "The Art of the Deal" in order to understand his deal-making tactics.

For folks like Watchman (including some of my relatives) to hate Trump so much borders on derangement,
due to ignorance in most cases because they only watch fake news.
 
We should all pray for our leaders. We aren't in control and never will be. Jude, the last book before Revelation, is a great read, here is a passage. It's quite a warning, we are supposed to be washing each others feet and learning from one another.

Jude
KJV
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
 
We should all pray for our leaders. We aren't in control and never will be. Jude, the last book before Revelation, is a great read, here is a passage. It's quite a warning, we are supposed to be washing each others feet and learning from one another.

Jude
KJV
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

Yes, and we should pray for our leaders to do God's will on earth (Matt. 6:10),
especially those in the US Senate and Supreme Court.
Trump is doing is share of good/godly work.
Our share includes voting and paying taxes.
 
I see TDS in your mind.

And that validates my discernment.

If I were of the world, Trump would absolutely be my guy.
But I'm not, so i have to be honest with myself and the mind of Christ.


It's your basic satanic deception, one side or the other has to be right, but neither is. Liberal vs maga, he pits himself against himself, to different parts of himself designed to cause the called out ones to stumble.

It's not like I'm not educated on your side of things, I've been watching Bannon and his group since 2020. I really look at people before I make my discernments. The maga selfishness is just as bad as the Liberal godlessness. And that selfishness stems from the believe and receive doctrine, a lie from the pit of hell.
 
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Egypt (The world) is going to destroy Babylon (they crucified the Son of God) and the Lord will come for the world. No more world and no more wars. There is nothing new, grab some popcorn.

Matthew 24
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
 
He is quite willing to forgive and work with former opponents--almost to a fault or his own detriment.
I wonder how you "know" that.

Here's a video where Trump said he has never asked God for forgiveness: https://www.c-span.org/clip/campaign-2016/user-clip-trump-doesnt-ask-god-for-forgiveness/4585899

And he famously said, in contrast to Charlie Kirk, "I hate my opponents and don't want the best for them." as if, you know, he believes he is struggling against flesh and blood.

So how is he able to give someone forgiveness if he says 1, he does not need it from God himself and 2, he hates his opponents.

There is a real version of Trump Derangement Syndrome and it's the one that promotes him as a proper representative of one who is in Christ.
 
Yes, and we should pray for our leaders to do God's will on earth (Matt. 6:10),
especially those in the US Senate and Supreme Court.
Trump is doing is share of good/godly work.
Our share includes voting and paying taxes.

With Elon Musk an atheist at his side, courting the big tech world in billions of dollars, clearing the way for the tool of the antichrist.

If we are truly surrendering our lives to Him, those things are none of our business now, they are Gods business.
 
I wonder how you "know" that.

Here's a video where Trump said he has never asked God for forgiveness: https://www.c-span.org/clip/campaign-2016/user-clip-trump-doesnt-ask-god-for-forgiveness/4585899

And he famously said, in contrast to Charlie Kirk, "I hate my opponents and don't want the best for them." as if, you know, he believes he is struggling against flesh and blood.

So how is he able to give someone forgiveness if he says 1, he does not need it from God himself and 2, he hates his opponents.

There is a real version of Trump Derangement Syndrome and it's the one that promotes him as a proper representative of one who is in Christ.

I've never heard that version of tds before, there is some truth behind it.

Are you the Aaron with faith center?
 
Question #1: Are there other earths with human life on them?

My answer: I doubt it, although I have seen people say there must be, because there are so many billions of suns in the universe, but I do not understand how one could arrive at an estimate of probability from a known case of only one--US!

Your answer?...
So far scientists have not identified any planet with a confirmed atmosphere like earth.
 
Question #2: Must we have an inerrant translation of the Bible in order to know God's Word?

My answer: Even if we had an inerrant translation, we would need an infallible interpretation, which not even a pope knows, so we must be content with believing that God has ensured we have very accurate translations that can provide us sufficient knowledge of His Will, especially regarding salvation.

Your answer?...
We do not use the Bible for anything but to put up a defensive bulwark against other "errant" Christians. A micro-number have ever read the entire bible much less attempted to fully digest it. To the vast majority, the Bible is auto-confirmation via proof texts that support the religion I was handed down.
 
Question #4: Is God free? Can God be evil? Is God the Father able to change His will, is God the Son free to sin, and could God the Holy Spirit become demonic?

Your answer (preferably Bible-based)?:
Is God free? No because He is expensive requiring everything you got and everything you are. Expensive not free. God probably can't be "evil" because that is a human construct.

Can He do things that look evil? Yes and often. He put sin in the Garden. He destroyed virtually everything on earth. He let his males sexually mature angels escape heaven to breed with human and "sin greatly," which He regretted. He killed all the first born children in Egypt. God is depicted as acting directly or issuing commands to kill in more than 150 distinct events or episodes resulting in the death of millions. He demanded both the killing of men and women but let the virgins be taken as sex slaves as a reward for his noble warriors. He had trouble getting David's attention, so God killed 70,000 innocent Hebrews to show David He was the boss. He demanded the extermination of certain nationalities, He struck dead Ananias and Sapphira for telling and incomplete truth.

Can God the Father change his will? Yep. He created everything then regretted it was sorry He did it and killed virtually everything. Then He followed the Akkadian model of making someone build a boat and put two of everything that crawls, walks or flys. In 1 Samuel 15:11, God regrets making Saul king of Israel because Saul turned away from His commands. Perhaps God did not know what would happen which seems to be a recurring theme.

The other questions require only speculations.
 
Question #1: Are there other earths with human life on them?

My answer: I doubt it, although I have seen people say there must be, because there are so many billions of suns in the universe, but I do not understand how one could arrive at an estimate of probability from a known case of only one--US!

Your answer?...
I believe there is no life but on earth, angels, and God.

I think that one creation is enough for God and plenty of people and angels to fellowship with.

Also because God had to give us choice in order to have a kingdom of true love it has resulted in much chaos, hurt, suffering, and problems, which God probably would not want to do that again.

Because with choice comes pain.

Not to say God did anything wrong for we have the choice to turn to Him despite the chaos which matters and babies are innocent which their angels protect them spiritually.

But I believe God probably would not want to duplicate that again and one earth is good enough.

If there were aliens God would not allow them to come in contact with us because that would be a faith blower.

It is one thing to have faith dealing of this earth but for aliens to actually present themselves to mankind they would fall fast.

But if God did create other life out there it would be for the same purpose as on earth.

God is not going to say do what you want or not communicate at all and let them run all nilly willy in His domain.

At least it would not seem like it.

The new age believes aliens are going to intervene with mankind to help them to have peace, advance, and evolve to be spiritual.

Which they say return of the gods.

But they do not believe in a God on the level of fundamental Christianity.

But they honor the God of forces the power of the Cosmos.

They believe Lucifer is a god, and an alien, that gave mankind intelligence, and will come back to help mankind.

So their alien buddies are the fallen angels.

That is as close as they will get to an alien.

I do not believe there are other life forms on other planets.

But who knows for it is not like you can do a poll.

Question #2: Must we have an inerrant translation of the Bible in order to know God's Word?

My answer: Even if we had an inerrant translation, we would need an infallible interpretation, which not even a pope knows, so we must be content with believing that God has ensured we have very accurate translations that can provide us sufficient knowledge of His Will, especially regarding salvation.

Your answer?...
I read through the Bible and it is the same theme all the way through.

If there is an oopsy momement it would be so trivial as not to take away from the major, important, and necessary things, so there is no negative impact of it.

The Bible we have is plenty good for assurance of the truth.

Not to say there is contradictions.

Question #3: How can we say that answering questions with logical answers is Bible-based?

Biblical passages that seem to support the view that human logic is a divine gift include the following:

“Come now, let us reason together,” says the Lord. (IS 1:18a)
“They hated me without reason.” (JN 15:25)
“So [Paul] reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and the God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there.” (ACTS 17:17)
“We do, however, speak a message of wisdom [right reasoning] among the mature…” (1CR 2:6)
“When I was a child… I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.” (1CR 13:11)
“Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.” (1PT 3:15b)

These passages indicate that we should think and attempt to learn the best beliefs/opinions or solutions regarding issues, beginning with revealed Scripture and continuing with right logic when helpful.

Your answer?...
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

What God did was give us a choice so we can choose the truth and allow the Spirit to lead us to have the mind of Christ.

Which no person would accept the truth unless God intervened in their life.

So no person has the logic to accept truth, and have understanding on their own pertaining to their salvation because in the flesh dwells no good thing.

God said let us reason together applies to people that made the choice to listen to Him but it is God's wisdom.

We do have a logical mind to accept the truth but only if God is working in our life when He calls us according to our heart condition.

But we can still accept the things of the Bible but without God we will not accept the truth to be saved.
 
And that validates my discernment.

If I were of the world, Trump would absolutely be my guy.
But I'm not, so i have to be honest with myself and the mind of Christ.


It's your basic satanic deception, one side or the other has to be right, but neither is. Liberal vs maga, he pits himself against himself, to different parts of himself designed to cause the called out ones to stumble.

It's not like I'm not educated on your side of things, I've been watching Bannon and his group since 2020. I really look at people before I make my discernments. The maga selfishness is just as bad as the Liberal godlessness. And that selfishness stems from the believe and receive doctrine, a lie from the pit of hell.

No, if you were in a right mind, Trump would be your best option. At least you have recommended no better person for President.
It is YOUR deception/misconcption that Marxists are right, when they are as far left/wrong as you can get!
The choice is binary (John 8:42-44). What is your third option better than MAGA?
My discernment is that you are more egotistical/selfish than us.
May I suggest you practice what you preach?
 
No, if you were in a right mind, Trump would be your best option. At least you have recommended no better person for President.
It is YOUR deception/misconcption that Marxists are right, when they are as far left/wrong as you can get!
The choice is binary (John 8:42-44). What is your third option better than MAGA?
My discernment is that you are more egotistical/selfish than us.
May I suggest you practice what you preach?

No Jesus and a surrendered life to Him is my best option.

We just have two different kinds of thinking, you with trump and the world, me with Jesus and the spirit.

You have made your choice and I have made mine.
 
No, if you were in a right mind, Trump would be your best option. At least you have recommended no better person for President.
It is YOUR deception/misconcption that Marxists are right, when they are as far left/wrong as you can get!
The choice is binary (John 8:42-44). What is your third option better than MAGA?
My discernment is that you are more egotistical/selfish than us.
May I suggest you practice what you preach?

I've always said there's no doubt your one of the called out ones. But you must be doing something wrong in your faith life aka" the continually surrendered life ".

My guess is all the blessings God has bestowed upon you over the years have been understood by you to be for yourself. That's Him testing your faith, your surrendered life. if the Spirit is being developed in you, you would have seen those blessings as a means to give to others in need, instead of homes, bank accounts, retirement funds, vacation properties, that secret safety net in your back pocket in case God doesn't do what you want. That's called a half measure and will avail nothing.

And who is your influence, not Gods word, but president trump, the king of selfishness.

This post is the answer to one of many questions you should have asked me months ago.

I sense your anger when the truth about Trump is exposed, so I won't bring Him up again.
 
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