911 Road to Tyranny, What Did You Learn?

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Are you applying this to the participants that carried out the mass murders on 911 or those who participated by signing onto the false flag instigated war that resulted?
I think anyone who looks very carefully at the story about all of the various people in positions of authority whose job was to make sure this didn't happen would have a vested interest in arguing that the official narrative is correct because it saves them from shame and ignominy. Yes, some were likely paid to look the other way or in some other way compromised, but many might have simply been incompetent and so they don't want to know the truth because it simply exposes them as incompetent.
 
I think anyone who looks very carefully at the story about all of the various people in positions of authority whose job was to make sure this didn't happen would have a vested interest in arguing that the official narrative is correct because it saves them from shame and ignominy. Yes, some were likely paid to look the other way or in some other way compromised, but many might have simply been incompetent and so they don't want to know the truth because it simply exposes them as incompetent.

That makes sense.
There is a personal example of a kid who fell for the propaganda and decided to enlist. His parents wanted me to talk him out of it. I said I would AFTER they sit down as a family and watch the documentary Alex Jones released right away.
I handed them a copy and guess what?
None of them watched it .
Since they didn't deem my time or their son's future worth watching a DVD, he went off and got PTSD in Iraq. When I saw him when he returned he said, "It's just a job."
 
Maybe the conspiracy nuts should take a close look at the damage that a 500-pound FAE bomb can do. Scale that up to one the size of a passenger jet.
Maybe watch the demolition of casinos. Tall buildings.
They fall upon their footprint. Just the towers did.

And what was it? Building 7? She fell too. But she wasn't impacted by a plane.

Truth is,the towers would have withstood the penetration of the jets.

And JP4 or JP8 het fuel in the a braided wings of those jets wasn't enough to drop two 110 story buildings.
 
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Are you applying this to the participants that carried out the mass murders on 911 or those who participated by signing onto the false flag instigated war that resulted?
Sadam Husein was revenge. For when he tried to assassinate Bush41 years prior.

Robbing the stores of gold,art,ancient artifacts there was inducement, reward,for allowing the campaign to go forward. Bush's buddies made out like bandits.

And later Bush43 joked about the WMD's!

Remember when on 9-11 all planes were grounded? No aircraft in our airspace allowed.

Except, for the private jet carrying the family of bin Laden out of NYC.

Front row seat. Mission accomplished.

Prior to 9-11, late August to early September 2001, the towers were inspected,per usual,for structural integrity,etc...by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

The towers were found to need many millions of dollars of repair. Costing the owner a fortune.

Likely,it was those former inspections that allowed the demolition charges to be set later.
Because crews entering would be seen as part of the former inspection.

Instead,the owner got paid. And had a whole new building constructed on the graveyard of 9-11.
 
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Sadam Husein was revenge. For when he tried to assassinate Bush41 years prior.
I didn't know this.
Was that while he was the C👁️A director or when they inserted him in political office?
Robbing the stores of gold,art,ancient artifacts there was inducement, reward,for allowing the campaign to go forward. Bush's buddies made out like bandits.

And later Bush43 joked about the WMD's!

Remember when on 9-11 all planes were grounded? No aircraft in our airspace allowed.

Except, for the private jet carrying the family of bin Laden out of NYC.
Yes, I remember.
That family's jet(s) were the only ones allowed in airspace.
Anybody telling themselves that the old man on dialysis in an Iraqi cave did that remotely is seriously self deceived. It goes beyond holding onto the existence of fat Santa climbing up and down billions of chimneys.
Northern Air Command did this.
Front row seat. Mission accomplished.

Prior to 9-11, late August to early September 2001, the towers were inspected,per usual,for structural integrity,etc...by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

The towers were found to need many millions of dollars of repair. Costing the owner a fortune.
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Likely,it was those former inspections that allowed the demolition charges to be set later.
Because crews entering would be seen as part of the former inspection.
Witnesses saw men in uniform attaching the devices and reported that.
My guess is that inspectors were demo crew wearing uniforms and inspector IDs.

Instead,the owner got paid. And had a whole new building constructed on the graveyard of 9-11.
I read that Silverstein took out an exorbitantly high payout policy for the extremely rare event of destruction from terrorism just prior. Since we didn't hear of any insurance claim investigation or dispute, my second guess is that it seems like he must've had controlling stock in the insurance company. I may be wrong because the only other reasonable explanation is that he offered a percentage of the claim payout to the CEO to control the details.

I'm impressed by your knowledge on the subject. Few people are interested enough to invest the kind of effort to learn those details.
Was there someone who encouraged you to read articles and listen to documentaries that presented that evidence?
 
I didn't know this.
Was that while he was the C👁️A director or when they inserted him in political office?
It was between April 14 and 16, 1993, while President Bush 41 was visiting Kuwait.
Yes, I remember.
That family's jet(s) were the only ones allowed in airspace.
Not many found that odd.
Anybody telling themselves that the old man on dialysis in an Iraqi cave did that remotely is seriously self deceived.
True. I think some prefer the Ostrich posture,head in the sand,because the reality is too much to bear.

It goes beyond holding onto the existence of fat Santa climbing up and down billions of chimneys.
Northern Air Command did this.
Did you see the news reporting on the next day, airport security CCTV captured images of the terrorist hijackers,who trained to fly her in America, walking through the airports they departed from prior to the hijackings?

These guys were Jello in the buildings debris,allegedly, and next day,of all people walking in airports,CCTV found them?

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Witnesses saw men in uniform attaching the devices and reported that.
I remember.
My guess is that inspectors were demo crew wearing uniforms and inspector IDs.
Same here.
I read that Silverstein took out an exorbitantly high payout policy for the extremely rare event of destruction from terrorism just prior.

"Insurance companies paid Silverstein Properties and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey a total of $4.55 billion to settle the property damage and business interruption claims for the World Trade Center complex."

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As of May of this year , he turned 95.

Since we didn't hear of any insurance claim investigation or dispute, my second guess is that it seems like he must've had controlling stock in the insurance company. I may be wrong because the only other reasonable explanation is that he offered a percentage of the claim payout to the CEO to control the details.
Billions were on the line. There was investigations.

I'm impressed by your knowledge on the subject. Few people are interested enough to invest the kind of effort to learn those details.
I watched it happen on live TV. Then went into a bit of a funk because some channels kept reporting the event 24/7. In our market you couldn't get away from it. Because we were in that NY broadcasting market.

Plus,I have family in Federal agencies. Nuff said about that one.
Was there someone who encouraged you to read articles and listen to documentaries that presented that evidence?
When you see it happen and know people who work in Manhattan,but not the Towers,thank God, for me it became personal.


I use to say I knew every person who died that day.

Because they were fellow Americans murdered by Evil.
That sentiment hasn't changed.

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It was between April 14 and 16, 1993, while President Bush 41 was visiting Kuwait.

Not many found that odd.

True. I think some prefer the Ostrich posture,head in the sand,because the reality is too much to bear.


Did you see the news reporting on the next day, airport security CCTV captured images of the terrorist hijackers,who trained to fly her in America, walking through the airports they departed from prior to the hijackings?

These guys were Jello in the buildings debris,allegedly, and next day,of all people walking in airports,CCTV found them?


I remember.

Same here.


"Insurance companies paid Silverstein Properties and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey a total of $4.55 billion to settle the property damage and business interruption claims for the World Trade Center complex."
Will read that. I'm surprised more media didn't cover this .

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As of May of this year , he turned 95.
At 95 I don't think he will be smiling where he will be before long.

9For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. 10For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
Psalm 37
Billions were on the line. There was investigations.


Thanks, I look forward to reading this.
I watched it happen on live TV. Then went into a bit of a funk because some channels kept reporting the event 24/7. In our market you couldn't get away from it. Because we were in that NY broadcasting market.

Plus,I have family in Federal agencies. Nuff said about that one.

When you see it happen and know people who work in Manhattan,but not the Towers,thank God, for me it became personal.


I use to say I knew every person who died that day.

Because they were fellow Americans murdered by Evil.
That sentiment hasn't changed.
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Yes, I agree.
 
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I think anyone who looks very carefully at the story about all of the various people in positions of authority whose job was to make sure this didn't happen would have a vested interest in arguing that the official narrative is correct because it saves them from shame and ignominy. Yes, some were likely paid to look the other way or in some other way compromised, but many might have simply been incompetent and so they don't want to know the truth because it simply exposes them as incompetent.


I just heard Tucker use the term, so it must be a new poly-sci trendy media term. I don't like it. It's much clearer to just say that the Israeli government bought the US politicians with taxpayer money.
"Humiliation ritual" just smears the lens.

 
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I just heard Tucker use the term, so it must be a new poly-sci trendy media term. I don't like it. It's much clearer to just say that the Israeli government bought the US politicians with taxpayer money.
"Humiliation ritual" just smears the lens.


The concept is not new, The Scarlett Letter is an example but it can also be a initiation type ritual, at any rate I think it adds much clarity to great and lesser power politics.
 
The concept is not new, The Scarlett Letter is an example but it can also be a initiation type ritual, at any rate I think it adds much clarity to great and lesser power politics.
It is not that different from initiation into the Mob or a street gang where you have to kill someone. Principle of M.A.D., if you rat them out they will rat you out.
 
It is not that different from initiation into the Mob or a street gang where you have to kill someone. Principle of M.A.D., if you rat them out they will rat you out.

True, I guess ultimately it is about sending a message... sometimes for everyone to see and other times more for a select group.
 
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True, I guess ultimately it is about sending a message... sometimes for everyone to see and other times more for a select group.
It is also about holding something over your head to prevent you from ratting them out. This is why the Bible says "with You there is forgiveness that you might be feared". We realize we have to cut deals with Criminals to make it easier for them to become cooperating witnesses.
 
The concept is not new, The Scarlett Letter is an example but it can also be a initiation type ritual, at any rate I think it adds much clarity to great and lesser power politics.

I can see the definition in the two word term. That's why I mentioned GWB yesterday and think of the reports from Skull and Bones and other hazing rituals. I've read that Organized crime organizations use them too.
I just don't see it useful in the manner that Tucker used it.
It seems odd, kind of like that term "virtue signalling" when it came out. I didn't use it until it was in common use a few years. I still think there are better ways to explain it, but it's now understood by most.
 
I can see the definition in the two word term. That's why I mentioned GWB yesterday and think of the reports from Skull and Bones and other hazing rituals. I've read that Organized crime organizations use them too.
I just don't see it useful in the manner that Tucker used it.
It seems odd, kind of like that term "virtue signalling" when it came out. I didn't use it until it was in common use a few years. I still think there are better ways to explain it, but it's now understood by most.
What was the manner that Tucker used it?
 
I can see the definition in the two word term. That's why I mentioned GWB yesterday and think of the reports from Skull and Bones and other hazing rituals. I've read that Organized crime organizations use them too.
I just don't see it useful in the manner that Tucker used it.
It seems odd, kind of like that term "virtue signalling" when it came out. I didn't use it until it was in common use a few years. I still think there are better ways to explain it, but it's now understood by most.

I support his effort to make people aware ( I am hoping he is genuine, time will tell) so I am fine with his use of the term.. it is a term I

think millennials would understand/know so maybe he is appealing to that demographic since the term became largely known

because of it actually happening within the music industry, Taylor Swift comes to mind at the awards ceremony and others.

I think those who voted against their conscience were the only ones humiliated, and we do not know who they are..maybe Rand Paul (not sure), so in that respect there may not be any humiliation for the majority, maybe they fully support the bill.

I do think 9/11 was an attempt to humiliate the USA and that was not the only historical event so there was an aspect of ritual to it.
It is a deeper level beyond Bush etc., but carry on.
 
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I support his effort to make people aware ( I am hoping he is genuine, time will tell) so I am fine with his use of the term.. it is a term I

think millennials would understand/know so maybe he is appealing to that demographic since the term became largely known

because of it actually happening within the music industry, Taylor Swift comes to mind at the awards ceremony and others.

I think those who voted against their conscience were the only ones humiliated, and we do not know who they are..maybe Rand Paul (not sure), so in that respect there may not be any humiliation for the majority, maybe they fully support the bill.

I do think 9/11 was an attempt to humiliate the USA and that was not the only historical event so there was an aspect of ritual to it.
It is a deeper level beyond Bush etc., but carry on.
I think the exposure of the "humiliation rituals" also touches on the religious/spiritual grounds of this cult (which they don't want exposed). Things are easier to explain when the masses think it's just about bribery and personal profit. Much harder to explain when there's Satanic rituals and torture and eating children. The Canaanites in the bible weren't just greedy. God had them exterminated for being exceptionally wicked - in many ways similar to the cult gradually being exposed now.
 
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I think the exposure of the "humiliation rituals" also touches on the religious/spiritual grounds of this cult (which they don't want exposed). Things are easier to explain when the masses think it's just about bribery and personal profit. Much harder to explain when there's Satanic rituals and torture and eating children. The Canaanites in the bible weren't just greedy. God had them exterminated for being exceptionally wicked - in many ways similar to the cult gradually being exposed now.

Nothing to add, you are on it completely and accurately, praise God.

I pray this "revelation of the method" written about to many years ago completely backfires as God raises up people who have a platform to bring it to light.

They think the world is corrupted enough that we will accept the horrendous acts return to a form of paganism. It seems they over-estimated their power.

People say satan is in control, he is not, Christ reigns now, Revelation makes that clear, the power of satan was broken by the new covenant, Christians need to start living in the new covenant not the old.
 
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I support his effort to make people aware ( I am hoping he is genuine, time will tell) so I am fine with his use of the term.. it is a term I

think millennials would understand/know so maybe he is appealing to that demographic since the term became largely known

because of it actually happening within the music industry, Taylor Swift comes to mind at the awards ceremony and others.

I think those who voted against their conscience were the only ones humiliated, and we do not know who they are..maybe Rand Paul (not sure), so in that respect there may not be any humiliation for the majority, maybe they fully support the bill.

I do think 9/11 was an attempt to humiliate the USA and that was not the only historical event so there was an aspect of ritual to it.
It is a deeper level beyond Bush etc., but carry on.
Thanks for explaining that in your last paragraph. I agree that there were many levels and objectives the Devil accomplished through that false flag event. Just one is the multitude of privacy and 4th Amendment violations we see in computer/phone usage, the new cameras everywhere and the legally protected infrastructure that is used against every human being right now. I will never quote GW Bush's blasphemous quote, but he disregarded the Bill of rights and constitution as did the vast majority of CONgress and the supreme court back when the "Patriot" Act was passed and war gleefully started. I wrote my Senator and got a personal response from the late Robert Byrd. Ron Paul was the other dissenter who voted against it.

The neocon media supported pretty much everything that the Republican president did even though he expressed disgust with the constitution as much as the socialists. I didn't listen to Tucker back then but he admitted to supporting the war effort and repented after investigating Alex Jones evidence of 911 being an inside job. More recently I subscribed to him when he spoke contrary to his Fox employer . Seeing his complex evolution, I think he is sincere. That doesn't mean that I agree with him on everything or AJ. In spite of posting their content more than anyone else here, I do not recommend them on some subjects.
All due respect to them and others, I find terminology, like the one mentioned, to be new and unclear in the context he used. No big deal. I wasn't going to bring it up except to understand what he meant.
I am behind the curve on such things since I limit my sources of information more these days.

I used to have a pastor who impressed many with his liberal use of $50 terminology: So much so, that I asked him if he could teach a series for young believers and new converts. All of them were left as sheep for wolves because they couldn't understand what he was talking about. Since I listened to him regularly I also picked up on that style and had to work at addressing the audiences that the Lord gave me with simplicity and clarity, as we are told by Paul in 1 Corinthians 14.

19Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.