How do preachers or teachers explain this?
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I have already explained this in another thread. I have nothing to take back. You were the one who said why we could not have a good conversation like the one I had with DavidLamb. So I said, "Okay, let us do it, and God knows the truth." I did not know that you had a condition.
It is up to you if you no longer want to continue. You are free to do what you choose, and no one will stop you.
The Lord’s purpose is only to seek the lost sheep. As for those who are not lost sheep, the Lord allows them to follow their own ways and does not force or control them.
Nevertheless, because of God's love for the lost sheep, He will not allow them to be deceived by anyone. If you continue doing what you have done before, the Lord will continue to expose it.
In the two attributes of the Lord mentioned by Peter, this is where His two roles come in.
"You are Christ" means that He is the Savior.
Regarding the Savior, God the Father Himself declared that He alone is the Savior and that there is no other.
ISAIAH 43:11
11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.
Have you taken opportunity to apply the previous verse?
Are you 100% certain that if you were to die today that you would go to Heaven?
I'm glad you say that our conversation was good. However, I must say that I still disagree with the accusations you level against Dino246, It's sometimes difficult enough to discern whether somebody we know personally is truly saved (ask many church elders who have to consider applications for church membership). I say it is impossible to judge whether somebody is truly a Christian or not if we only know them through forums like this (unless, of course, they write something obviously anti-Christian, such as "Jesus is not the only Saviour," or "You can believe what you want about Jesus," but I have never seen Dino246 write anything like that.)
I will choose to continue refuting your unbiblical ideas with sound understanding and wisdom from the Lord.
Titus 3 says clearly and plainly that God is our Saviour AND that Jesus is our Saviour. This is saying Jesus is God.
1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,
2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Titus 2:13 says this: "our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ",
and 2 Peter 1:1 reinforces this with "our God and Savior Jesus Christ".
"This is what the Lord Jesus is declaring.
As the Savior, He is the One who spoke in Isaiah 43:11. He was emphasizing to the Jews that He is the God of Abraham."
JOHN 8:56-58
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
But they refused to believe Him. That is why they wanted to kill Him.
JOHN 8:59
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
As I shared with you before: When Peter came to know Jesus, he declared, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Those who read and believe the Holy Scriptures also say the same words to Jesus: "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
MATTHEW 16:15-17
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Although the words are the same, Peter's confession came from God. In contrast, the Christian groups that make the same confession speak from human understanding alone. For if their confession truly came from God as Peter's did, they would surely be united rather than divided.
I hope the day will come when God will also help you understand that there is a distinction between physical life and spiritual life.
In physical life, everything should come from human effort.
But in spiritual life, everything should come from God alone.
And regarding God's revelation of the truth through His Word, everything that Dino246 says comes from human understanding or from himself. I have only posted the message revealed by God.
Simon Peter also said to Jesus in Matthew 16:16, "You are the Son of the living God." Through Peter, it was also revealed what role the Lord Jesus fulfills. He fulfills the role of the Son of the living God. Therefore, He serves as the model whom people should follow and imitate.
1 PETER 2:21
21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
It is also shown in the demonstrations how He fulfilled His role as the Son of the living God. As a model, He shows true humility before God, which is what He wants people to practice as well.
One example shown by the Lord Jesus in His role as the Son of the living God is humility.
Although He was seen to possess wisdom
MARK 6:2-3
2 And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?
3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
However, despite that, He said that He knew nothing.
JOHN 5:19
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
God allows evil to continue so that He may establish His kingdom.
GENESIS 4:15
15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
However, when the appointed time comes, He will have it burned.
MATTHEW 13:30
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
The Lord Jesus, in His role as the Son of the living God, served as a model by demonstrating true humility before God.
Although the Lord was without sin, He did not claim that He Himself was good.
2 CORINTHIANS 5:21
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
This is the example He wants those who believe in Him and read the Holy Scriptures to follow.
LUKE 18:18-19
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
He once said to His hearers:
(Joh 8:46 NKJV) Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me?
By challenging His hearers to convict Him of sin (which of course they could not do), Jesus was indeed claiming to be good.
Paul's ministry to the Gentiles was approximately 30 years.
The ministry of Jesus was less than 4 years.
Jesus mainly taught in Israel only except for a Gentile and a Samaritan here and there.
Paul travelled across the Roman Empire and visited many cities, towns.
Paul constantly performed under the power of the Holy Spirit and converted people in the power of the Holy Spirit.
I would dare say that Paul, Peter, Phillip, and John, far exceeded the ministry of Jesus in scale.
I agree with most of your post, except the part where you say that Paul converted people. Preachers don't convert people; God does.
Jesus was talking to the twelve, who would eventually become his apostles. Their works will be greater in the sense that they will reach more people with the gospel. They will travel around the known world. Many of them will contribute to the New Testament. We owe a lot to their works.
In His role as the Son of the living God, the Lord Jesus was 100% human. In every way that an ordinary human being is, He was truly human.
He became tired, He became hungry, He became thirsty, and He experienced fear.
Therefore, as a man, the Lord Jesus would never claim to be good.
For He Himself taught and revealed to Paul that no human being is good.
That is why, before the rich young ruler, He did not claim to be good.
And since He is the truth and always speaks the truth (John 14:6), His statement was true.
ROMANS 3:10
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Therefore, He Himself did not claim to be good, so that He would not contradict His own words.
I do not believe that the "greater works" refer to the length of their ministry or preaching. Rather, they refer to the greater extent or magnitude of what they accomplished.