The Parable of the Sower in the Book of John

[endtimesbible]

Mark 4 has two parables to consider: Parable of the Sower
and the Parable of the Growing Seed. In
John 10 we have Jesus discourse on The Good Shepherd.

John 10:10
The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy <blank>.
What is the enemy trying to steal, kill and destroy?

Answer: The word of God before it produces fruit in our lives. By eliminating the word from entering our heart and mind, Satan can keep us from hearing God’s voice. The parable of the Good Shepherd is about hearing the Good Shepherd voice.

When you compare these three scripture passages everything lines up perfectly.
Bird steals seed.
Sun kills blade.
Thorns destroy kernel head of the ear.

But Jesus came that we may have :
Life which is the seed on the good soil
Life more abundantly : 30, 60 and 100 fold return

 

[GWH]

Mark 4 has two parables to consider: Parable of the Sower
and the Parable of the Growing Seed. In
John 10 we have Jesus discourse on The Good Shepherd.

John 10:10
The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy <blank>.
What is the enemy trying to steal, kill and destroy?

Answer: The word of God before it produces fruit in our lives. By eliminating the word from entering our heart and mind, Satan can keep us from hearing God’s voice. The parable of the Good Shepherd is about hearing the Good Shepherd voice.

When you compare these three scripture passages everything lines up perfectly.
Bird steals seed.
Sun kills blade.
Thorns destroy kernel head of the ear.

But Jesus came that we may have :
Life which is the seed on the good soil
Life more abundantly : 30, 60 and 100 fold return

That comparison works well enough. Good insight/harmonization!
Thanks for sharing it.

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

You know how spirit,water,blood are as one?
That's actually how God created all things.He literally spoke everything into existence through his word.
It's how all things consist,and how he reconciles all things unto himself.The word teaches us that it's through the blood of his cross in Colossians 1:20.
How are we ourselves reconciled to him?by spirit,water,blood.
By hearing of Word of God,believing,and standing in line of his teaching we are reconciled unto him.


Some things consisting through the word of God would be two of your examples:

A bird stealing or destroying a seed:
Through the death of that seed it has given it's life so that a bird may live.By excretion, the seed is "born" again and spreads throughout the land.

Here are some of the verses in which that that particular event is consisting of.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:3
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Mark 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.


Blade bring scorched by fire:

Through trial by fire the blade is being tested,and is born again though fertilization.

Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

The heat of the sun is testing the blade.If we read this verse:

Psalm 19:4
Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun.

What was the tabernacle in the OT made for?for She spirit of the Lord.
When God spoke the suns into physical existence it came by in the image of his spirit.

So the sun scorching the blade is the spirit testing it.

The tabernacle for our physical sun is the moon and the earth.
This is the biggest revelation people will get out of this if they believe what I'm saying.
God's two witnesses is his word.
The spirit testifies.The word being water,blood.

Seeing the tabernacle for the sun confirms it.
The moon's face is the lesser light which the sun lightrays shines it's face like the face of Moses on Mount Sinai in the presence of the Spirit of the Lord.The moon represents repentance,or water.
The earth itself is blood.Jesus shed is blood on the earth.All things shed their blood on the earth and are in the image of the Living Word.This is how God/Jesus brings all things unto himself.

The sun follows the same pattern of the Word.it is giving it's life force so that there might be life on the earth.It is like Jesus coming down from heaven in the flesh and sacrifices itself so that there may be life.
The suns rays comes down from heaven with healing in it's wings.

If a sun explodes in the universe,it is born again because it has the building blocks of life.God made all things to consist through him by spirit,water,blood.
We can "see" these things if we know what to look for.

 

[JohnDB]

I'm as lost as last years Easter egg....
I'm just looking at the verses as presented....and pondering upon them.

I'm caught up on John 10:2&3
2The one who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The Doorkeeper opens it for him and the sheep hear his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

Now verse 7&8
So Jesus said again , "I assure you: I am the door of the sheep.8 All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep didn't listen to them.


Putting these together and focusing on this section which directly precedes the other......so we have our ducks in a row.....

What do you guys see as it meaning?

 

[Roger316]

Mark 4 has two parables to consider: Parable of the Sower
and the Parable of the Growing Seed. In
John 10 we have Jesus discourse on The Good Shepherd.

John 10:10
The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy <blank>.
What is the enemy trying to steal, kill and destroy?

Answer: The word of God before it produces fruit in our lives. By eliminating the word from entering our heart and mind, Satan can keep us from hearing God’s voice. The parable of the Good Shepherd is about hearing the Good Shepherd voice.

When you compare these three scripture passages everything lines up perfectly.
Bird steals seed.
Sun kills blade.
Thorns destroy kernel head of the ear.

But Jesus came that we may have :
Life which is the seed on the good soil
Life more abundantly : 30, 60 and 100 fold return

The parable of the sower isn’t about learning to “hear God’s voice” in a subjective or devotional sense; it’s about how people respond to the word of the kingdom when it is proclaimed. Jesus is explaining why the same preached message produces different outcomes in different hearts — some resist, some respond shallowly, some are choked by distractions, and some bear lasting fruit. The focus is not on developing inner listening techniques but on the condition of the heart when confronted with God’s proclaimed word. The parable diagnoses reception, not spiritual hearing practices.

 

[GWH]

You know how spirit,water,blood are as one?
That's actually how God created all things.He literally spoke everything into existence through his word.
It's how all things consist,and how he reconciles all things unto himself.The word teaches us that it's through the blood of his cross in Colossians 1:20.
How are we ourselves reconciled to him?by spirit,water,blood.
By hearing of Word of God,believing,and standing in line of his teaching we are reconciled unto him.


Some things consisting through the word of God would be two of your examples:

A bird stealing or destroying a seed:
Through the death of that seed it has given it's life so that a bird may live.By excretion, the seed is "born" again and spreads throughout the land.

Here are some of the verses in which that that particular event is consisting of.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:3
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Mark 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.


Blade bring scorched by fire:

Through trial by fire the blade is being tested,and is born again though fertilization.

Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

The heat of the sun is testing the blade.If we read this verse:

Psalm 19:4
Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun.

What was the tabernacle in the OT made for?for She spirit of the Lord.
When God spoke the suns into physical existence it came by in the image of his spirit.

So the sun scorching the blade is the spirit testing it.

The tabernacle for our physical sun is the moon and the earth.
This is the biggest revelation people will get out of this if they believe what I'm saying.
God's two witnesses is his word.
The spirit testifies.The word being water,blood.

Seeing the tabernacle for the sun confirms it.
The moon's face is the lesser light which the sun lightrays shines it's face like the face of Moses on Mount Sinai in the presence of the Spirit of the Lord.The moon represents repentance,or water.
The earth itself is blood.Jesus shed is blood on the earth.All things shed their blood on the earth and are in the image of the Living Word.This is how God/Jesus brings all things unto himself.

The sun follows the same pattern of the Word.it is giving it's life force so that there might be life on the earth.It is like Jesus coming down from heaven in the flesh and sacrifices itself so that there may be life.
The suns rays comes down from heaven with healing in it's wings.

If a sun explodes in the universe,it is born again because it has the building blocks of life.God made all things to consist through him by spirit,water,blood.
We can "see" these things if we know what to look for.

God literally willed the world to exist, and God’s essence/Being is rational or logical/Logos and thus can be understood/described as speaking or communicating by means of words whether spoken or mathematical.

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

God literally willed the world to exist, and God’s essence/Being is rational or logical/Logos and thus can be understood/described as speaking or communicating by means of words whether spoken or mathematical.

The code is the Word.Even mathematics is founded in bible code.
Most of us understand it as God speaking a thing into existence,and it comes into being.
But scripture literally says how he does it.


Colossians 1:16-20
For (((by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible))), whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: (((all things were created by him, and for him.))
And he is before all things, ((((and by him all things consist))). And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell.
And, (((having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.)))

so yes,when he spoke things into existence it came to being.His breath was spirit.If God reconciles all things unto himself then how does he do it?
How did God reconcile you unto himself?
Through the blood of his cross.By spirit,water,blood he has reconciled you unto himself.
He does this to all things,whether they be things in earth or in heaven.
In his image he created them.Now he doesn't say that, but he makes you search out a matter.He said "let us created man in our image.in our likeness"
his likeness is spirit,water,blood.
When you read the Colossians 1 verses you get the revelation that all things were made in his image.That image consists of spirit,water,blood.

Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.

Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Op is "seeing" God the way I did when I asked God if he is every where,then where is he?I looked out the window and I saw him cause I knew what to look for.

 

[Watchman22]

Mark 4 has two parables to consider: Parable of the Sower
and the Parable of the Growing Seed. In
John 10 we have Jesus discourse on The Good Shepherd.

John 10:10
The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy <blank>.
What is the enemy trying to steal, kill and destroy?

Answer: The word of God before it produces fruit in our lives. By eliminating the word from entering our heart and mind, Satan can keep us from hearing God’s voice. The parable of the Good Shepherd is about hearing the Good Shepherd voice.

When you compare these three scripture passages everything lines up perfectly.
Bird steals seed.
Sun kills blade.
Thorns destroy kernel head of the ear.

But Jesus came that we may have :
Life which is the seed on the good soil
Life more abundantly : 30, 60 and 100 fold return

I understand the parable of the sower to be an insight, given by Jesus, about how the salvation process works.

We are the soils, and Jesus is the seed.
The 4 different kinds of soils are the ones called out by the Father.

3 out of the 4 soils will fail to respond in faith correctly, ( believing). The one soil that does ( by a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender) will then move forward from this testing ground, to the graphing on process.

Of course the believe and receive understanding goes right out the window where it belongs , when Gods word and the parables are discerned correctly.

 

[endtimesbible]

The parable of the sower isn’t about learning to “hear God’s voice” in a subjective or devotional sense; it’s about how people respond to the word of the kingdom when it is proclaimed. Jesus is explaining why the same preached message produces different outcomes in different hearts — some resist, some respond shallowly, some are choked by distractions, and some bear lasting fruit. The focus is not on developing inner listening techniques but on the condition of the heart when confronted with God’s proclaimed word. The parable diagnoses reception, not spiritual hearing practices.

Hi Roger,
I see no reason why both interpretations could not be correct.

Jesus is no longer here in bodily form. He left the Holy Spirit in His place until He returns. Since this is the case,
EVERYTHING is about learning to hear and respond to the Holy Spirit. How do we discern His voice? By reading, studying, listening to and speaking God's word.

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Man doesn't live on bread alone, but on every word that proceeds form the mouth of God: This is called speaking.
Who is doing the speaking? The Holy Spirit through the word of God.

 

[endtimesbible]

I understand the parable of the sower to be an insight, given by Jesus, about how the salvation process works.

We are the soils, and Jesus is the seed.
The 4 different kinds of soils are the ones called out by the Father.

3 out of the 4 soils will fail to respond in faith correctly, ( believing). The one soil that does ( by a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender) will then move forward from this testing ground, to the graphing on process.

Of course the believe and receive understanding goes right out the window where it belongs , when Gods word and the parables are discerned correctly.

Hi Watchman,
If this parable was just about salvation, why was it spoken at that time by Jesus in the first place? The Holy Spirit had not been given to dwell in the disciples yet, because Jesus had not been glorified. John 7:29
The Holy Spirit worked with the disciples, but did not come to dwell inside the disciples until after Jesus was glorified. John 20:22

 

[Roger316]

Hi Roger,
I see no reason why both interpretations could not be correct.

Jesus is no longer here in bodily form. He left the Holy Spirit in His place until He returns. Since this is the case,
EVERYTHING is about learning to hear and respond to the Holy Spirit. How do we discern His voice? By reading, studying, listening to and speaking God's word.

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Man doesn't live on bread alone, but on every word that proceeds form the mouth of God: This is called speaking.
Who is doing the speaking? The Holy Spirit through the word of God.

There is only one interpretation to any given passage. The Parable of the sower is not about learning how to listen to the Holy Spirit.

 

[endtimesbible]

There is only one interpretation to any given passage.

Two fulfillments of a prophecy is more than one interpretation of scripture, is it not?

The Parable of the sower is not about learning how to listen to the Holy Spirit.

It's about the seed of God's word growing inside us.
Why is it so important for the word to grow inside us?

 

[GWH]

The code is the Word.Even mathematics is founded in bible code.
Most of us understand it as God speaking a thing into existence,and it comes into being.
But scripture literally says how he does it.


Colossians 1:16-20
For (((by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible))), whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: (((all things were created by him, and for him.))
And he is before all things, ((((and by him all things consist))). And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell.
And, (((having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.)))

so yes,when he spoke things into existence it came to being.His breath was spirit.If God reconciles all things unto himself then how does he do it?
How did God reconcile you unto himself?
Through the blood of his cross.By spirit,water,blood he has reconciled you unto himself.
He does this to all things,whether they be things in earth or in heaven.
In his image he created them.Now he doesn't say that, but he makes you search out a matter.He said "let us created man in our image.in our likeness"
his likeness is spirit,water,blood.
When you read the Colossians 1 verses you get the revelation that all things were made in his image.That image consists of spirit,water,blood.

Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.

Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Op is "seeing" God the way I did when I asked God if he is every where,then where is he?I looked out the window and I saw him cause I knew what to look for.

Scripture explains who created, what was created (Gen. 1&2) and why (Psalms and NT), and science attempts to understand how (Greeks beginning with Thales) and when (modern astrophysics).

 

[Roger316]

Two fulfillments of a prophecy is more than one interpretation of scripture, is it not?

My contention is that the Olivet Discourse is not a prophecy that has two meanings, but a prophetic word that speaks of two events.

It's about the seed of God's word growing inside us.
Why is it so important for the word to grow inside us?

When Jesus speaks of the seed growing inside us, He’s using a metaphor to describe the real, Spirit‑driven process by which God’s truth takes root and shapes our lives—but the key to the parable is the farmer’s preparation of the field. The fourth soil bears fruit not because the seed was different, but because the ground was cultivated—broken, cleared, and made suitable for growth. In the same way, the word grows within us because God prepares the heart, making it receptive, steady, and able to persevere. The “growth of the word” is simply a picture of how God’s truth, once planted in a prepared heart, begins to guide our choices, strengthen our faith, and produce the kind of life that reflects His work.

 

[endtimesbible]

My contention is that the Olivet Discourse is not a prophecy that has two meanings, but a prophetic word that speaks of two events.

God speaks twice
Ways God speaks twice

When Jesus speaks of the seed growing inside us, He’s using a metaphor to describe the real, Spirit‑driven process by which God’s truth takes root and shapes our lives—but the key to the parable is the farmer’s preparation of the field. The fourth soil bears fruit not because the seed was different, but because the ground was cultivated—broken, cleared, and made suitable for growth. In the same way, the word grows within us because God prepares the heart, making it receptive, steady, and able to persevere. The “growth of the word” is simply a picture of how God’s truth, once planted in a prepared heart, begins to guide our choices, strengthen our faith, and produce the kind of life that reflects His work.

The word of God prepares the heart. Heb. 4:12. The word is living and active.
This is why the thief comes to
steal the seed John 10:10 , Mark 4:28-19
kill the blade John 10:10, Mark 4:28-29
destroy the kernel John 10:10, Mark 4:28-29
The soil on good ground produces a harvest (life and life more abundantly) 30,60 or 100 fold return. This is the full head of corn in the ear. Mark 4:29
Once fruit is produced the thief can not stop it.
The harvest from the fruit is for everyone and results in praise, glory and honor to God.

By stealing, killing and destroying the word, the thief can keep us from learnng to discern God's voice (the Holy Spirit).
If we do not know God's voice, we can not fulfill God's plan and purpose for our lives.

 

[endtimesbible]

That comparison works well enough. Good insight/harmonization!
Thanks for sharing it.

You are welcome GWH. To God be the glory!

Only by God's Spirit can we even begin to understand the deeper things of God's word.
To the natural man it is perceived as foolishness. This is why we must continually read, study, speak and meditate on God's word so our minds can be transformed.

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

Scripture explains who created, what was created (Gen. 1&2) and why (Psalms and NT), and science attempts to understand how (Greeks beginning with Thales) and when (modern astrophysics).

By all things consisting through the Word by spirit,water,blood, whatever on earth or in heaven,they're symbolically testifying or glorifying God.
The air we breath came though by spirit.from it comes life in all forms.
When a christian is breathing in air and testifying of the word,we are breathing in that air in and out.
See how it's all woven together in unbelievable fashion?That's God for you.
The air is like God blowing his spirit into you and gives you life.
When you're preaching the word and exhaling oxygen,out comes spirit and they're life.
Even more so,when your lungs take in that oxygen that comes in spirit,they become living stones!
Like 2 stone tablets with the word,commandments written on them,and you're testifying of them!

Everything created is like this.They exist, and consist by the word and in that way,God brings all things unto himself.
Good luck trying to see it all.You'd need multiple life times to find it all it that's even possible.

John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

From all bodily functions to how nature runs it's course,it all operates by the God code.The word of God.

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

From all bodily functions to how nature runs it's course,it all operates by the God code.The word of God.

And if anyone believes this,then you should also believe who the Two Witnesses are,cause I just revealed it to you.

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

The code is the Word.Even mathematics is founded in bible code.
Most of us understand it as God speaking a thing into existence,and it comes into being.
But scripture literally says how he does it.


Colossians 1:16-20
For (((by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible))), whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: (((all things were created by him, and for him.))
And he is before all things, ((((and by him all things consist))). And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell.
And, (((having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.)))

so yes,when he spoke things into existence it came to being.His breath was spirit.If God reconciles all things unto himself then how does he do it?
How did God reconcile you unto himself?
Through the blood of his cross.By spirit,water,blood he has reconciled you unto himself.
He does this to all things,whether they be things in earth or in heaven.
In his image he created them.Now he doesn't say that, but he makes you search out a matter.He said "let us created man in our image.in our likeness"
his likeness is spirit,water,blood.
When you read the Colossians 1 verses you get the revelation that all things were made in his image.That image consists of spirit,water,blood.

Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.

Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Op is "seeing" God the way I did when I asked God if he is every where,then where is he?I looked out the window and I saw him cause I knew what to look for.

I feel like some don't understand how I came to this conclusion.This is the easiest way to explain it by asking you three questions to ponder on, with the answers being given in the Colossians 1:16-20.

1. How are you reconciled onto God?
2.Was that reconciliation though one or more things?
3.Do you consist of what the answer number 2 is?