The elephant in the room

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If you cannot or will not associate certain particular verses in scripture to certain particular events in history - you are missing the point entirely.
You're missing the point when you ignore the verses I cited in my first post.
But,that's OK. As I said.
 
You're missing the point when you ignore the verses I cited in my first post.
But,that's OK. As I said.
I do not remember seeing any specific verses - only books/chapters - what "first post" are you referring to???

Especially since the idea was suggested concerning "matching" [specific] scripture verses with [specific] events.
 
The gathering of a coalition of the north,is the most recent event timeline rise. Starting with the October 2023 rocket assault by Hamas upon Israel.

Now,we have tensions firing up with Iran,formerly Persia,a terrorist state, and of course Iraq.
We have Russia(Rosh), is shipping explosives to Iran. Then there's Magog/China.
Okay - so - what specific verses of scripture do you associate with these things in recent times? small/medium/large scope - what verses?

Do you see these things as the fulfillment of every single verse in Ezekiel 38-39 ?

Or, can you point to any specific verses in those chapters that you believe are connected to the specific events?
 
Has this been fulfilled??? If so, what modern-day 'current'/'recent' events fulfilled it???

Ezekiel 38:

10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: 11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, 12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. 13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
 
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Has this been fulfilled??? If so, what modern-day 'current'/'recent' events fulfilled it???

Ezekiel 39:

9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years: 10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD.
 
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For those who may be interested in the time line of End Times prophecies and how current events may correlate, these two videos may be helpful.








As we know God says we aren't to focus on dates of things to come,prophesied,but we are to be ready when they do.

Lord knows the refrain, it's the end of the world ,has reverberated for centuries across the globe. Current events seemingly appearing to make for a near certainty. But,not yet.
Not yet.🙏
 
Has this been fulfilled??? If so, what modern-day 'current'/'recent' events fulfilled it???

Ezekiel 38:

10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: 11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, 12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. 13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
Has this been fulfilled??? If so, what modern-day 'current'/'recent' events fulfilled it???

Ezekiel 39:

9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years: 10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD.


Not yet to either Ezekiel 38 and 39. But it looks like the alliance of Russia with several Islamic countries is forming and solidifying.

Russia and the rest of the alliance doesn't seem to believe the prophecy that they will lose this war.

Just like antichrist doesn't believe he and his one world government will only last several years - even less than Hitler, who got to rule over Germany and invaded territories for 12 years.


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It seems strange to me that there are no threads about what is happening in the world today.
Especially with the U.S. and Iran war, Europe's invasion of Islam, the U.S states being slowly taken over by Muslim population.
Do you find it hard to not be political with these events and rather then to be silent?
I believe the church must have a loud voice in these matters for we were all born for such a time as this.
I believe we are in the last days and the soon return of our great king and savior JESUS CHRIST.
I've seen alot of post with some knowledgeable saints here knowing history and scripture, so let us come together and learn from one another.
Let me begin the conversation with possibly a not so well known fact.

During ww2 many Muslims put there lives in danger and almost certain death aiding the jews to escape the terror of Hitlers nightmare.
Hiding them and even providing transportation to other countries including the middle east.
So what has changed since then? Why was it only when the jews returned to the land that enmity began?

If God is viewed as the elephant being described by Lilliputians, I offer the insight that each aspect can be understood as the soteriological nucleus (GRFS), metaphorically compared to a fractal design. A fractal is a never-ending geometric pattern where a shape repeats itself in smaller and smaller sizes, so that when you zoom in on a fractal design forever, you see each part is a microcosm of the whole design. What is the soteriological shape/fractal truth in the divine design/plan that is universally perceived? God's Love (1John 4:7-16).

Jesus implied that a child too young to know Scripture can be saved (Matt. 19:14), and Paul indicated every sinner who has ever lived has no excuse for not reflecting the Creator's good/loving nature (Rom. 1:20, 2:6-11, 5:5). This kerygmatic truth is the fractal fact all who are saved (including on CC) agree on, no matter which aspect of the hippo/design they see from where they are. This is what we have called the foreshadowed or proto-Gospel and which is identified with the Holy Spirit (Rom. 5:5).
 
Would anyone say that Isaiahs description fits our world today. Not just a people but the world today.

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Isa 5:21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

Isa 5:22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:

Isa 5:23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!
 
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Would anyone say that Isaiahs description fits our world today. Not just a people but the world today.

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Isa 5:21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

Isa 5:22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:

Isa 5:23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

Definitely done by Marxist atheist Dems in the USA today!
 
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I believe the U.S. support for Israel has blessed us up into this point but has been compromised by the statement made by Mr.Trump
When he said...quote.... Israel would not have survived if it weren't for the U.S.

So God continued to grant blessings even through blatantly anti-Israel past administrations but will suddenly remove those blessings based on a statement from the current President? No, I don't think so. Making a statement does not equal not supporting Israel. The U.S. is, in fact, still supporting them.

Hi again God-fearing. I didn't see an answer to my above question and am still curious. Keeping in mind the U.S. is currently supporting Israel, why do you believe one statement made by the Pres. will remove blessings even though past U.S. admins have been blatantly anti-Israel. Can you explain maybe more specifically where your belief is coming from on this?
 
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We all grew up using the apple as the symbol of the forbidden fruit in the garden of eden.
Its quite interesting that a major company would use it for there logo.
Now I tried to download the image to share but to my surprise it comes out as pages of computer language instead of image.
May be a error on my part but dont know. Any way one bite out of a apple ....interesting?
Just some food for thought.
 
Scripture?

As far as regathering to Israel, the Jews who will be living outside of Israel when He returns?

I will whistle for them and gather them,
For I will redeem them;
And they shall increase as they once increased.

“I will sow them among the peoples,
And they shall remember Me in far countries;
They shall live, together with their children,
And they shall return.


Zechariah 10:8-9
 
If the church is Israel...then we missed the part of being a new creation...and as the apostle john siad....I dont know what we will be but we will be like him (Jesus).

How can the church ever be Israel?

When there is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ Jesus?
Galatians 3:28
 
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I think you very much right. But the church in America is carnal. Many will not stand up to sin of the current culture because it is unpopular to do so. If the church can't stand up to sin because it is unpopular they will not do so when they make it illegal to do so.

'Having a form of godliness but deny the power thereof. " Lukewarm, comprise the word of God. Impressing socialism and communism and many are Jews who do so. That is demonic.

We are to stand up to sin in our own lives.
 
Hi again God-fearing. I didn't see an answer to my above question and am still curious. Keeping in mind the U.S. is currently supporting Israel, why do you believe one statement made by the Pres. will remove blessings even though past U.S. admins have been blatantly anti-Israel. Can you explain maybe more specifically where your belief is coming from on this?

Glad you asked.
As we know through scripture the Lord appoints those in authority on down to fathers and husbands in families.
The Lord places a covering over the one he has appointed of protection, health, ect and builds a hedge around not only the one that prays but also it covers those he has authority over. Father over family, husband over wife, boss over workers, ect.
Now our president is the appointed authority over the U.S. and what he says and does effects us all.
Now the Lord explicitly says ...he will not share his glory with another. He created Israel, Israel is his first born son.
Israel is protected by God and in this case never to be uprooted again.
Mr. Trump said...if it wasn't for the U.S. Israel wouldn't exist....which in my view is a direct insult to the glory of God.

A good example of this is moses inter seeding for Israel as God sought to destroy them. Gods namesake in the balance.