Christian Marriage
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Oh I don't know. This is what Jesus said. Mat 19:9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”
So, according to you, this scripture is null and void except for the reasons you gave?
Who would make a woman his wife and not marry her? Does that happen? So much for "be fruitful and multiply." LOL
Don't leave out the beginning of Matthew 19 in verse 6
"Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
If you want to leave out parts of scripture, that's up to you... be single forever, all I'm saying is you're incorrect.
i just investigated that. all states have abolished that rule. don't know when that occurred. that's odd to me. especially since covid, aids & venereal disease you would think even more that states should have the blood test rule.
I was married twice before I gave my life to Christ. First time I married in 2008 and wasn't required to get a blood test. Maybe it's because of the state you lived in.
i think you are correct. sometimes doctors will highly recommend it which is proper to do so.I was married twice before I gave my life to Christ. First time I married in 2008 and wasn't required to get a blood test. Maybe it's because of the state you lived in.
Im practical. I dont get in debates about doctrines and things. The only reply that sticks is: if this here is your doctrine that you so held up about, how is it working for you? Fruit is a law. An apple tree dont struggle to produce apples, an apple tree just IS.
We Christians make simple things harder than peeing up a rope (its a saying dont get hussied.) Try this. Consider life is 4 stages, 1-120 yrs (yes I know many lived passed 120 in the Bible.) The 1st 30 yrs of life is spent learning. The 2nd is demonstrating what you learned. The 3-4th is TEACHING and being an influence.
Many done got married early in life and it worked. Those "high school sweethearts" stories just pull at my heart strings. I LOVE those. But in my case, as everybody is different, it involved wisdom from on High. Without maturing in my walk with Jesus and just hopping the broom, I wouldve been a good DAD but God taught me how to be a great FATHER.
I couldve been a hardworking husband and kind to a wife on my own, but God taught me how to pass down HIS kind of love from Him to me, and from me to her.
The moon reflects the sun; a woman always shines when her husband is a man after Gods own heart...it makes it just that easier to get HERS.
Now there go certains that are mandatory in certain cases. Personally, I dont think it smart to be unequally yoked. Some done did it, its addressed in the Word, but its there for a reason. One gone follow the other. There aint no serving two masters.
Keeping your *ahem, self to YOURSELF while waiting is another (yall know what I mean,) and "shacking up" aint how WE Kings kids do it. Leave that to the world. Yall do what yall want: I dont "rent" women.
If you cant handle being alone, you gone put unnecessary pressure on somebody else. Cant nobody MAKE you happy. Happiness is circumstantial, joy is from Jesus. JOY IS CONSTANT. There aint no such thing as two 1/2s making a whole. Its two wholes making ONE PERSON.
As far as divine pairings, YES they are done. But if yall only think there go only ONE person yall to be hitched with, do the math: the whole system is out of whack cause yall cant count the number of folks who done married the WRONG person.
If you spend the importance of your time building your relationship with Jesus, even Jesus knows you using HIS wisdom and He trust you to make decisions (for those who be thinking at times why aint He answering you.)
Heres marriage: When you love Jesus more than your spouse, and you see yourself as a steward of a priceless gift that He gave you, and you intend to serve them without expecting it in return.
Apologies if yall wanted a booklearned answer (ACTS 4:13.)
Let me clear something up cause it read squirelly. What I meant about the system is whacked, is that many Christians tend to overlook awesome folks cause they got in they mind there is only one compatible person that checks out with their grocery list of qualities they want. Thats all, and naw I aint married or nothing yet. These are things that I just had to learn 1st.
Maybe a southern state law so they can verify you’re not brother/sister? I never heard of such a thing.
Did anyone say what that blood test is for?
I need to ask around recently married people. Very new to me.
I was married long ago, never heard of blood test.
Interesting responses but I don't know - here's what I think it might be...
I kind of think that it's when two believers want to spend the rest of their lives together, and start a family or something like that (both being of the opposite sex) and they share a bed and do ...stuff. And they aren't allowed to do that with anyone else. At some point they belong to some sort of church, and maybe even have their wedding there.
The wives go to the women's retreats and the husbands go to prayer breakfasts. They send their children to church Easter camp.
When the children grow up (ideally many, without any kind of birth control) the boys are meant to go around or date the girls in the youth group that belong to the same denomination church. Then they somehow get married in their early 20s, leave home with enough money and a good job to do the same thing all over again. Oh and the house has to have a lawn and some kind of white picket fence.
At Christmas time the husband (or the granddad) pretends he's Santa Claus. But they all sing Christian Christmas Carols and they have a chrome fish bumper sticker on their car (or a number plate that says WWJD or similar) .
Have you ever watched 'The Simpsons'? It's kind of like Homer Simpson's neighbours, The Flanders. Ned is the good guy and his wife Maud I think it was is always thinking of the children, making sure they are baptised and read Bible stories at bedtime, say grace etc.
People say well that's only a cartoon, it's a fictional, imaginary fantasy, but it must have been based on real life at some point.
I kind of think that it's when two believers want to spend the rest of their lives together, and start a family or something like that (both being of the opposite sex) and they share a bed and do ...stuff. And they aren't allowed to do that with anyone else. At some point they belong to some sort of church, and maybe even have their wedding there.
The wives go to the women's retreats and the husbands go to prayer breakfasts. They send their children to church Easter camp.
When the children grow up (ideally many, without any kind of birth control) the boys are meant to go around or date the girls in the youth group that belong to the same denomination church. Then they somehow get married in their early 20s, leave home with enough money and a good job to do the same thing all over again. Oh and the house has to have a lawn and some kind of white picket fence.
At Christmas time the husband (or the granddad) pretends he's Santa Claus. But they all sing Christian Christmas Carols and they have a chrome fish bumper sticker on their car (or a number plate that says WWJD or similar) .
Have you ever watched 'The Simpsons'? It's kind of like Homer Simpson's neighbours, The Flanders. Ned is the good guy and his wife Maud I think it was is always thinking of the children, making sure they are baptised and read Bible stories at bedtime, say grace etc.
People say well that's only a cartoon, it's a fictional, imaginary fantasy, but it must have been based on real life at some point.
blood tests are to see if anyone is carrying any infectious, transmittable & genetic issues. there has always been enough transmittable diseases in history without blood testing.
Is this testing for HIV?
Is it compulsory in the US?
I have not heard of this for married couples altho I've heard in some churches they do some sort of pre-marital counselling. The pastor/reverend/vicar does this, if he's marrying the couple. I don't know if they have the power to veto a couple though or they just go somewhere else if he refuses to marry them.
I do know there are plenty of unmarried couples in churches that some believe are 'living in sin' but still attend even with their children, and the ministers don't bat an eye, and they can even be sons and daughters of the pastor/minister. Even same sex couples. They want people to attend and don't kick them out except if one has an affair/adultery with someone else in the congregation.
i found out yesterday that all states have abolished blood tests for marriage. i imagine that when the tests were given, it was for hiv, vd & all the other common diseases. yes, amongst Christian churches, marriage counseling is a big issue. just a couple of weeks ago i found out thru my brother that a friend of ours son got married to a guy!!! holy heavens!!! we didn't even know the guy was gay!!! & he's a news reporter so now, everyone knows!
Well back in the day gay people had to live in closets and weren't allowed to come out, so I've heard.
It's a different world now. I think if you are living in a place that's like Sodom and Gomorrah, there seems to be no other option. They'd try it on the righteous married couples but even then, Lot's wife looked back and was turned into a pillar of salt.
Even Jobs wife had nothing to recommend her, and Noah's wife was hard done by. They are not even named in scripture.
In some countries women weren't allowed to have any rights, I've just learned that in 1882 a new law came into effect called the Marriage Property Act, in the UK which meant married women could now have some control over their assets, before that they were mere chattel.
The Married Women's Property Act 1882 was a landmark statute of the UK Parliament that allowed married women to own, buy, and sell property, wages, and investments independently of their husbands for the first time. It fundamentally altered the common law doctrine of coverture.
In NZ, being the first country in the world to 'allow' women to have the vote, this was significant for us -- some countries do not even have this. I think nowadays people take it for granted, but back then women really did not have any say over who they married. They were just expected to marry, most often to someone already picked out for them. Marrying for love was not really a thing. It was just a fantasy in romance novels. lol
In NZ, being the first country in the world to 'allow' women to have the vote, this was significant for us -- some countries do not even have this. I think nowadays people take it for granted, but back then women really did not have any say over who they married. They were just expected to marry, most often to someone already picked out for them. Marrying for love was not really a thing. It was just a fantasy in romance novels. lol
I don't know what it means by 'common law doctrine of coverture'
I sort of surmise it means the wife is covered in some way by the husband in that he owns her and everything she has, including her body. For centuries it would seem it was only one way...
I sort of surmise it means the wife is covered in some way by the husband in that he owns her and everything she has, including her body. For centuries it would seem it was only one way...