So just so everyone understands, Tyler Robinson has not entered a formal guilty plea. You keep telling us that "he confessed" but apparently he has not confessed to the cops nor has he given a formal guilty plea.
1 Day Ago) Tyler Robinson , accused of the murder of Charlie Kirk, has second court hearing
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Pleas are not entered during a preliminary hearing. A plea will be allowed during arraignment.
Here is part of the note that prosecutors say Tyler Robinson left for his then-partner on the day Charlie Kirk was killed. (The judge had said that the note should only be shown inside the courtroom but it was briefly shown later in the day when prosecutors put it up.)
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Here is part of the note that prosecutors say Tyler Robinson left for his then-partner on the day Charlie Kirk was killed. (The judge had said that the note should only be shown inside the courtroom but it was briefly shown later in the day when prosecutors put it up.)
Tyler Robinson said he killed Charlie Kirk because he 'spreads too much hate': Officials
Text messages revealed in newly released charging documents are shedding light on a possible motive in the death of Charlie Kirk.
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Read the text messages between Charlie Kirk accused and roommate
"You're joking, right????" the roommate responds in one message after the alleged gunman tells him he did it, according to court documents.
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If a suspect pleads guilty, a preliminary hearing is typically cancelled or waived because the plea resolves the question of guilt.Pleas are not entered during a preliminary hearing. A plea will be allowed during arraignment.
Here is part of the note that prosecutors say Tyler Robinson left for his then-partner on the day Charlie Kirk was killed. (The judge had said that the note should only be shown inside the courtroom but it was briefly shown later in the day when prosecutors put it up.)
Tyler Robinson said he killed Charlie Kirk because he 'spreads too much hate': Officials
Text messages revealed in newly released charging documents are shedding light on a possible motive in the death of Charlie Kirk.
Read the text messages between Charlie Kirk accused and roommate
"You're joking, right????" the roommate responds in one message after the alleged gunman tells him he did it, according to court documents.
The very fact that they are having this preliminary hearing to determine whether or not this goes to trial indicates that Tyler Robinson has not pled guilty.
Pleas are not entered during a preliminary hearing. A plea will be allowed during arraignment.
Here is part of the note that prosecutors say Tyler Robinson left for his then-partner on the day Charlie Kirk was killed. (The judge had said that the note should only be shown inside the courtroom but it was briefly shown later in the day when prosecutors put it up.)
Early reports said he confessed to police. I can't find proof of that.
He confessed more than once to his dad and his roommate.
abc7news.com
Here is part of the note that prosecutors say Tyler Robinson left for his then-partner on the day Charlie Kirk was killed. (The judge had said that the note should only be shown inside the courtroom but it was briefly shown later in the day when prosecutors put it up.)
Early reports said he confessed to police. I can't find proof of that.
He confessed more than once to his dad and his roommate.
Tyler Robinson said he killed Charlie Kirk because he 'spreads too much hate': Officials
Text messages revealed in newly released charging documents are shedding light on a possible motive in the death of Charlie Kirk.
abc7news.com
OK, so are you saying he is going to be pleading guilty at the arraignment?Pleas are not entered during a preliminary hearing. A plea will be allowed during arraignment.
Here is part of the note that prosecutors say Tyler Robinson left for his then-partner on the day Charlie Kirk was killed. (The judge had said that the note should only be shown inside the courtroom but it was briefly shown later in the day when prosecutors put it up.)
Early reports said he confessed to police. I can't find proof of that.
He confessed more than once to his dad and his roommate.
Tyler Robinson said he killed Charlie Kirk because he 'spreads too much hate': Officials
Text messages revealed in newly released charging documents are shedding light on a possible motive in the death of Charlie Kirk.
At least four times on this thread you call him "the confessed assassin" of Charlie Kirk.
Did he confess to police? Is a signed confession made during an interrogation by police part of the evidence? A confession that we have proof he made?
Testimony from someone else entered at an arraignment would mean that he is "allegedly a confessed killer".
If the link to the other live preliminary trial doesn't work try this.
They are back in session now.
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Tyler's DNA is all over the weapon.
They are back in session now.
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Tyler's DNA is all over the weapon.
No, if he signed a confession while being interrogated by the police we can say he is the "confessed killer". If he enters a plea of guilty we can also say he is the confessed killer. You said he was the "confessed assassin" when in reality it is alleged that he is the confessed assassin.
It was never said here that he signed a confession while in custody.
You aren't reading what has been posted earlier.
He is a confessed assassin. He confessed to civilians verbally and in writing.
In matters of Juris Prudence,he is not. Not was it ever said by me that he signed a confession for the police.
Which means,he is allegedly the Assassin of Charlie Kirk.
As the Magistrate overseeing this preliminary hearing, the Judge is required to draw inferences from evidence most favorable to the State.
For someone who earlier claimed to have taught Forensics,you are very ignorant of how the Justice System works.
allegedly. If you tell me that you heard him tell you that he is the assassin then you have the right to speak in the first person and say he confessed to you, but I would have to say allegedly because I didn't hear it, I am hearing it second hand.
So when you are sharing with us second hand, you should say allegedly. The clarification is important so that this forum does not get sued for libel.
Relevant Case Law
- The Talebearer's Rule / Republication Rule: The foundational principle that "talebearers are as bad as talemakers" is deeply rooted in U.S. common law. In Cianci v. New Times Publishing Co. (639 F.2d 54, 2d Cir. 1980), the court firmly established that a speaker cannot escape liability for defamation by simply attributing the defamatory statements to a third party. The court noted that reproducing a false accusation still causes real reputational damage.
- The "Gist" or "Sting" of the Libel: In Masson v. New Yorker Magazine, Inc. (501 U.S. 495, 1991), the Supreme Court looked at how altering quotes or facts affects defamation. If you write "he confessed," the "sting" of that statement to a reader is that the person admitted guilt. If they never admitted guilt, you have materially altered the truth, creating a defamatory falsehood.
- Strict Application of Fair Report: In Costello v. Ocean County Observer (136 N.J. 594, 1994), the court noted that for the fair report privilege to protect a writer, the report of a proceeding must be fully accurate. If a reporter misinterprets a document or a proceeding to imply a person's guilt or a concrete confession where one does not officially exist, the protection is lost.
Yes, the user should absolutely issue an immediate retraction.
By repeatedly calling Tyler Robinson "the confessed assassin," the user is publishing a definitive statement of fact to the public. Under the republication rule, a person cannot escape liability for defamation simply by basing their claim on someone else's words. [1, 2]
The user's defense relies on a logical fallacy in defamation law:
- The Reality: A witness claims Tyler said he did it.
- The Legal Fact: A witness statement is not a confession. A confession requires the accused person to formally admit guilt to authorities or directly to the public.
The evidence that would be used in said charge: the Posts 473, 454, 411, 284, 272, and 134, where you make this claim. However, you have many other posts that might also be used, you should consult a lawyer.
As for CC's liability as separate from yours they will be required to act in good faith if a subpoena is issued for your identity and they would need to make sure they are not seen to encourage your posts. However, they can take preventative measures that would be based on "good Samaritan" rules appropriate for a Christian Forum.
I appreciate your going so far as to think you are capable of intimidating me,or anyone else here,who dates stand ten toes down against you and your promotion and defense of the yellow journalist, Candace Owens.
That you deceminated the disinformation and outright lies of Ms. Owens, and rebuffed truth in evidence, if Libel is to be a stacked offense, would fall on you!
As in evidence are your posts condemning correction. While you defend your right to continually promote slander and defamation.
Therefore,if you think your unrepentant willful offenses are to be ignored,overlooked,erased,by your claim now against me, you're sadly mistaken.
But you? Well,if Owens faces charges for her offenses against TPUSA, et al, and Erika Kirk, those who acted as agents of Owens, that would be you, who despite being corrected repeatedly and openly publicly informed you are promoting defamation and slander against TPUSA et al, and Erika Kirk, could be named as a codefendants. Because you were an unrelenting collaborator in publicly promoting slander and defamation.
A case could be brought citing the origin of purpose on Owens part . If which again,you are a unrelenting collaborator and agent.
It may be alleged in a suit that Owens and her collaborators intended,by disseminating slander and defamation against all parties, to besmirch the legacy of Charlie Kirk and impugn and impact future progress and earnings of TPUSA.
If such a case were brought, all parties who collaborated in spreading those lies,that would be you, could be subpoenad, and possibly named as liable for damages.
So,here's a little advice.
Don't enter someone's news thread about a Christian activists Assassination and post lies that are designed by their originator to manifest a miasma of doubt about the liability of the alleged Assassin.
And then,when busted by truth that wrings the neck of the liar and slanderer Candace Owens defamation machine,whine that what I said may make this forum able to be charged for Liable because you think "allegedly", was omitted in one of my posts, when facts in evidence show Tyler Robinson did text and hand write a confession to his Furrie Tranny wannabe gay lover, think again!
And your desperate search to shut up the truth,so Candace Owens lies, that you NEVER posted with the preface,allegedly,can remain published here, shows ever more what you lack.
You did not ever teach Forensics,as you claim.
We know this,I know this,because a Forensics professor knows the basic workings of criminal courts.
You do not.
So,let's dispense with desperate inane searches on AI,shall we? Yes,we shall.
All you had to do to get yourself corrected yet again by the truth you are an enemy of is search a very simple phrase.
I even used AI so you'd feel at home.
Don't think I believe you are concerned with this forums owner being held liable. When you repeatedly post and defend Candace Owens lies.
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Forums are generally protected from libel suits under the Communications Decency Act (CDA), which grants immunity to website operators for content posted by third parties. However, if the forum actively edits or monitors the content, it may lose that immunity and become liable for defamatory statements.
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That you deceminated the disinformation and outright lies of Ms. Owens, and rebuffed truth in evidence, if Libel is to be a stacked offense, would fall on you!
As in evidence are your posts condemning correction. While you defend your right to continually promote slander and defamation.
Therefore,if you think your unrepentant willful offenses are to be ignored,overlooked,erased,by your claim now against me, you're sadly mistaken.
But you? Well,if Owens faces charges for her offenses against TPUSA, et al, and Erika Kirk, those who acted as agents of Owens, that would be you, who despite being corrected repeatedly and openly publicly informed you are promoting defamation and slander against TPUSA et al, and Erika Kirk, could be named as a codefendants. Because you were an unrelenting collaborator in publicly promoting slander and defamation.
A case could be brought citing the origin of purpose on Owens part . If which again,you are a unrelenting collaborator and agent.
It may be alleged in a suit that Owens and her collaborators intended,by disseminating slander and defamation against all parties, to besmirch the legacy of Charlie Kirk and impugn and impact future progress and earnings of TPUSA.
If such a case were brought, all parties who collaborated in spreading those lies,that would be you, could be subpoenad, and possibly named as liable for damages.
So,here's a little advice.
Don't enter someone's news thread about a Christian activists Assassination and post lies that are designed by their originator to manifest a miasma of doubt about the liability of the alleged Assassin.
And then,when busted by truth that wrings the neck of the liar and slanderer Candace Owens defamation machine,whine that what I said may make this forum able to be charged for Liable because you think "allegedly", was omitted in one of my posts, when facts in evidence show Tyler Robinson did text and hand write a confession to his Furrie Tranny wannabe gay lover, think again!
And your desperate search to shut up the truth,so Candace Owens lies, that you NEVER posted with the preface,allegedly,can remain published here, shows ever more what you lack.
You did not ever teach Forensics,as you claim.
We know this,I know this,because a Forensics professor knows the basic workings of criminal courts.
You do not.
So,let's dispense with desperate inane searches on AI,shall we? Yes,we shall.
All you had to do to get yourself corrected yet again by the truth you are an enemy of is search a very simple phrase.
I even used AI so you'd feel at home.
Don't think I believe you are concerned with this forums owner being held liable. When you repeatedly post and defend Candace Owens lies.
Search Assist
Forums are generally protected from libel suits under the Communications Decency Act (CDA), which grants immunity to website operators for content posted by third parties. However, if the forum actively edits or monitors the content, it may lose that immunity and become liable for defamatory statements.
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