Replacement theology? Yes or No.

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Jesus restored Israel's land in 48 ? I thought that was the u.s. and tbe allies solution for the Jewish " problem " plaguing the world st the time? And wasn't it sort of account pmished by a mass slaughter of the people who were living in the land at the time? ....I'm not sure God is behind these modern military conquests but maybe. That sounds more like the ot law of Moses.


"Until the fullness of the Gentiles have come in. Leave it to Him, He can do more than one thing at a time. "
yeah he does the things he says though like when he makes a covenant with a people
Deuteronomy 28:9-10 KJV
The LORD shall establish thee an holy people unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, and walk in his ways. [10] And all people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of the LORD; and they shall be afraid of thee.

Deuteronomy 28:58-59, 61-65 KJV
[58] If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE Lord THY GOD; [59] then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.
[61] Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. [62] And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. [63] And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. [64] And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. [65] And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:

There's an actual agreement between god and the children of israel regarding the land he gave them . The contract is based on Moses words written in his book of tbier covenent law. This can never change its eternal.

they could have kept his word and how bored him and been blessed above all other people's. Or they could break his word and they would be cursed and destroyed and fiether he would use them to spread his judgements across the globe as they wandered into all nations.

the land the men in the world are always fighting over isn't what the new covenant is about the esrth and all the land is going to burn up ...his promise was to make israel a new earth and a new heaven after they broke tbier covenant and cursed the esrrh to doom and destruction . Before them e eryone elae had already offended god they were the chosen people after the world offended him.

Isaiah 24:5-6, 17, 19-20 KJV
[5] The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. [6] Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.
[17] Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.
[19] The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. [20] The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

Thats what peter is explaining amd really the entire nt ....Again to be clear of what I'm saying israel has an inheritance it's just not where the world us looking and what they are all fighting over it's not the land of the ot ....it's much better the new heavens and earth ...the new jerusalem that comes down to a new earth from heaven.....


Israel is forever beloved of God ...but israel does t just mean you have isralite flesh and blood .....that's irrelevant israel is not identified like tbat
The sun rose this morning. God's covenant with Israel the nation stands. Why is that so hard to understand? Saying that God had no involvement is absurd. God did not personally come down to earth and send Israel to Babylon. God works behind the scenes, so to speak. And God was behind the return of Jews to the land of Israel.

By the way, your sloppy writing does you no credit. It does not make it easier to understand either. "...and how bored him.." What is that supposed to mean?"
 
Gospels have been read. They/ them sounds like trans foolishness.
I saw a news clip this evening. A member in Congress was walking with her new female puppy in her arms.

A fellow member walked by and gave a compliment to the puppy while referring to them as,he.
The woman puppy owner scolded him. Don't Trans my Dog!

That's where we are today.
Do you ever feel like the ghosts of Sodom and Gomorrah were allowed to leave Hell? And now they are as a transparency over any part of the Christians world, just to deliver payback. And overlay their fallen lifestyles upon contemporary cultures.

Pride flag! The rainbow. The,in your face God! Rebuttal to God putting the rainbow in the sky after he washed the world clean of sin. Including theirs.

They likely considered a flame banner to commemorate Sodom and Gomorrah,but thought flaming homosexual imagery would immediately come to mind on sight.

Gee, don't know how that could happen.
 
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I saw a news clip this evening. A member in Congress was walking with her new female puppy in her arms.

A fellow member walked by and gave a compliment to the puppy while referring to them as,he.
The woman puppy owner scolded him. Don't Trans my Dog!

That's where we are today.
Do you ever feel like the ghosts of Sodom and Gomorrah were allowed to leave Hell? And now they are as a transparency over any part of the Christians world, just to deliver payback. And overlay their fallen lifestyles upon contemporary cultures.

Pride flag! The rainbow. The,in your face God! Rebuttal to God putting the rainbow in the sky after he washed the world clean of sin. Including theirs.

They likely considered a flame banner to commemorate Sodom and Gomorrah,but thought flaming homosexual imagery would immediately come to mind on sight.

Gee, don't know how that could happen.

Hubby keeps saying it's an upside down world. And it sure enough is. I was talking to my cousin about her brother. He became an atheist after being brought up in church. He broke ties with the family, I think from guilt. Out of nowhere after about ten years he called my mother and wanted to apologize. He said he finally grew up. But I was talking to his sister, she and I are close. She said he and his wife visited a few years back and mentioned something about their boy, they have two. The wife said that she needed to stop. They wanted their children to decide for themselves what they wanted to be, boy or girl. It shocked my cousin. I know I would have said "let me save the kid the bother, he's a boy, you have a SON, congrats, decision made". smh I'm pretty sure the wife is the reason my cousin pulled away. She knew we weren't going to play those type of head games. I'm not for bashing people over the head with the Bible, but I'm not going to call something right that is wrong. A real pity.
 
Good job?
He twisted the Galatians 6 to it's opposite meaning!
How Paul Maintains Identity While Erasing Spiritual Inequality

* Equality of Salvation & Access: Paul insists that both Jew and Gentile enter the covenant on identical terms: by grace through faith in Jesus, without requiring Gentiles to physically convert to Judaism via circumcision (Romans 3:29–30, Galatians 5:2–6).

* The "Mystery" (Mysterion): In Ephesians 3:6, Paul defines the secret hidden in past ages: "that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel." He does not say Gentiles become Jews; he says Gentiles become joint-heirs (sunkleronoma) alongside Jewish believers.

* The "One New Man" (Ephesians 2:14–16): Paul describes Christ breaking down the middle wall of separation (the soreg) to create "one new man" out of the two. A "new" entity is formed—the Church—where physical descent no longer dictates direct access to God, yet the historical identities of the original two groups are not erased.

* Distinction in the Body (1 Corinthians 12:12–13): Just as Paul writes that in Christ "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female" (Galatians 3:28), he is describing equal spiritual status before God, not the physical annihilation of gender, legal status, or ethnicity. A male does not become a female; a Gentile does not become a Jew.
 
Good job?
He twisted the Galatians 6 to it's opposite meaning!
[Gal 3:28 KJV] 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

[Col 3:11 KJV] 11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond [nor] free: but Christ [is] all, and in all.

[1Co 10:32 KJV] 32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

Rather than viewing these texts as a erasure of distinct national identities or as proof that the Church replaces Israel, these passages define the internal, spiritual composition of a brand-new entity: the Body of Christ (the Church).

1. Soteriological Equality vs. Distinction of Function
Fruchtenbaum and Walvoord stress that Galatians 3:28 and Colossians 3:11 address soteriological standing (how one is saved and justified), not functional roles or divine covenants.

* Soteriological Equality: Before God, a Jew, Greek, male, female, slave, or free person stands on identical ground regarding spiritual need and access to salvation through faith in Messiah.

* Functional & Covenanted Continuity: Just as Galatians 3:28 does not obliterate biological sex (men remain men, women remain women) or social realities, it does not erase the distinct ethnic lineage or national promises made to Abraham’s physical seed (Israel).

* Exegesis of "One in Christ": Fruchtenbaum notes that being "one in Christ" describes the spiritual position of believers within the Body. It does not negate God’s unconditional, everlasting covenants made exclusively with national Israel (e.g., Abrahamic, Davidic, Land Covenants).

2. The Mysterion (The "One New Man")
In classical Dispensationalism (Walvoord, Thieme, Fruchtenbaum), the Church is defined as a Mysterion (μυστήριον)—a divine secret unrevealed in the Old Testament, but disclosed in the New Testament (Eph 3:1–6; Col 1:26–27).

* A New Creation, Not a Renamed Israel: Ephesian/Colossian exegesis shows that God did not convert Gentiles into Jews, nor did He transform the Church into "Spiritual Israel". Instead, He created the "One New Man" (Kainos Anthropos—Ephesians 2:15).

* The Body Composition: Colossians 3:11 and Galatians 3:28 define the internal makeup of this "New Man". Both Jewish and Gentile believers are baptized by the Holy Spirit into one spiritual organism (1 Cor 12:13).

* Refutation of Replacement Theology: If the Church were merely "True Israel," the New Testament would call Gentile believers "Jews." Instead, Paul distinguishes three distinct groups in 1 Corinthians 10:32: the Jews, the Gentiles, and the Church of God.

3. The 69th Week Interruption & The Church Age "Gap"
To account for why the Old Testament prophets never saw the Church Age, Dispensationalists point to Daniel’s Prophecy of the 70 Weeks (Daniel 9:24–27).

OT Prophetic Horizon: [69 Weeks of Years] ─── (GAP: Church / Mysterion) ─── [70th Week / Tribulation]

* The Prophetic Clock Stops: The 490-year clock for national Israel began at the decree to rebuild Jerusalem and paused after the 69th week (483 years) when Messiah was "cut off" (Crucifixion) AD 30/33.

* The Parenthesis / Interruption: Because Israel as a nation rejected Jesus at His First Coming, God inserted an unprophesied interregnum—the Church Age.

* The Calling of the Bride: During this gap, Christ is calling out His unique Bride—a body made up of both Jews and Gentiles who enjoy equal spiritual privileges (Gal 3:28).

* Resumption of Israel's Program: Once the Church is complete and removed at the Rapture, God will restart Israel’s prophetic clock, initiating the 70th Week of Daniel (the 7-year Tribulation) to refine and restore national Israel prior to the Millennium.
 
Hubby keeps saying it's an upside down world. And it sure enough is. I was talking to my cousin about her brother. He became an atheist after being brought up in church. He broke ties with the family, I think from guilt. Out of nowhere after about ten years he called my mother and wanted to apologize. He said he finally grew up. But I was talking to his sister, she and I are close. She said he and his wife visited a few years back and mentioned something about their boy, they have two. The wife said that she needed to stop. They wanted their children to decide for themselves what they wanted to be, boy or girl. It shocked my cousin. I know I would have said "let me save the kid the bother, he's a boy, you have a SON, congrats, decision made". smh I'm pretty sure the wife is the reason my cousin pulled away. She knew we weren't going to play those type of head games. I'm not for bashing people over the head with the Bible, but I'm not going to call something right that is wrong. A real pity.
It is indeed.

It's hard to understand how people bought into the imbecility that's active today.

I was looking for a part time work from home job last week on those job advertising sites. Monster, Indeed, etc...

One job looked promising.
So , I OK my resume to be uploaded to them. Then this window pops up with specific questions the potential employer has for every potential hire.

What are your pronouns?

I wasn't going for that,but they had my resume,so what the heck .

What are your pronouns?
Me,Mine, They ,Herself.

How do you identify?
Capitalist! Me,loves money that's all Mine because They have bills to pay for Herself.

I'm sure I got the job.
Yep,calling them for us to work any day now.🥸
 
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It is indeed.

It's hard to understand how people bought into the imbecility that's active today.

I was looking for a part time work from home job last week on those job advertising sites. Monster, Indeed, etc...

One job looked promising.
So , I OK my resume to be uploaded to them. Then this window pops up with specific questions the potential employer has for every potential hire.

What are your pronouns?

I wasn't going for that,but they had my resume,so what the heck .

What are your pronouns?
Me,Mine, They ,Herself.

How do you identify?
Capitalist! Me,loves money that's all Mine because They have bills to pay for Herself.

I'm sure I got the job.
Yep,calling them for us to work any day now.🥸

Rofl I wish we could see their face when they er ,,, them read it. I can just imagine. Libs aren't known for a good sense of humor. But it sure cracked me up when I read it!!
 
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Good job?
He twisted the Galatians 6 to it's opposite meaning!
Yeah, they always say half of the truth, then twist the other half.
Old trick still draws many followers.

But no worries, all is under God's big plan.

We just make sure we are on the same side with YHVH, "before Abraham, I am." Maybe that is another reason the jew leaders were mad, "before Abraham "? What ethnic was that?

"Good job" as the movie "good fellas". Ny humor.
 
It really is impressive, but not in a good way.
* A New Creation, Not a Renamed Israel: Ephesian/Colossian exegesis shows that God DID NOT convert Gentiles into Jews, nor did He transform the Church into "Spiritual Israel". Instead, He created the "One New Man" (Kainos Anthropos—Ephesians 2:15).
 
Worth the read. Really,how many times do we have to debate the question?

If The Church Will Not Teach The Truth About Israel, Someone Else Will Gladly Teach The Next Generation A Lie

By Brandon Holthaus
August 22, 2026

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There is a spiritual battle raging today over one nation unlike any other in history. That nation is Israel.

It seems everyone has an opinion about Israel—politicians, journalists, influencers, podcasters, celebrities, and social media personalities. Sadly, one of the few places where many Christians are not hearing about Israel is from the pulpit.

That silence has come at a tremendous cost.

The issue of Israel has become a dividing line in the Church. Entire denominations, Bible colleges, seminaries, pastors, and Christian influencers are abandoning the biblical view of Israel and replacing it with theological systems that deny Israel’s future. As a result, millions of Christians are confused about God’s plan for the Jewish people, while younger generations are increasingly adopting anti-Israel narratives from secular voices rather than biblical truth.

The Root of the Problem: Replacement Theology

At the heart of the confusion is Replacement Theology.

Replacement Theology teaches that God has permanently rejected Israel as His chosen nation and replaced her with the Church. According to this view, the Church has inherited Israel’s covenants, promises, and prophetic destiny, while the Jewish people forfeited their unique role in God’s redemptive plan by rejecting Jesus as their Messiah.

Replacement theology being wrong does not make dispensational theology correct.

The "ekklesia" is found both in OT and NT... this is a very simple concept.
 
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* A New Creation, Not a Renamed Israel: Ephesian/Colossian exegesis shows that God DID NOT convert Gentiles into Jews, nor did He transform the Church into "Spiritual Israel". Instead, He created the "One New Man" (Kainos Anthropos—Ephesians 2:15).

Salvation and service are separate.
As I have repeatedly told you the "ekklesia" was present in the OT.
A bloodline was chosen for service and was protected while that played out and once it was fulfilled .. it was no longer about bloodline.
It is quite simple really.
 
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* A New Creation, Not a Renamed Israel: Ephesian/Colossian exegesis shows that God DID NOT convert Gentiles into Jews, nor did He transform the Church into "Spiritual Israel". Instead, He created the "One New Man" (Kainos Anthropos—Ephesians 2:15).
I do appreciate your politeness.

Overall my point is need to step back see the entire picture of Bible. Then we can interpret small details correctly.

do you mean saved jews, and saved non jews are like 2 very different category? This part i definitely don't agree.
 
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Salvation and service are separate.
As I have repeatedly told you the "ekklesia" was present in the OT.
A bloodline was chosen for service and was protected while that played out and once it was fulfilled .. it was no longer about bloodline.
It is quite simple really.
Even in ot, bloodline does not save anyone, unless it is the blood of Jesus. Jesus, before Abraham, "I am".

Ethnic bloodline was used by God for certain purpose, that's it, but not saving anyone to heaven.
 
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Even in ot, bloodline does not save anyone, unless it is the blood of Jesus. Jesus, before Abraham, "I am".

Ethnic bloodline was used by God for certain purpose, that's it, but not saving anyone to heaven.

Thank you yes I meant to add that in as well, so important!! :)

We can see all the mental gymnastics (avoid obvious truth) they have to go through to make scripture say something that was never there.
 
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I do appreciate your politeness.

Overall my point is need to step back see the entire picture of Bible. Then we can interpret small details correctly.

do you mean saved jews, and saved non jews are like 2 very different category? This part i definitely don't agree.

A lot of what @cv5 post is correct >>>the connections, he is just applying to our future instead of the first century where it belongs.
 
Thank you yes I meant to add that in as well, so important!! :)

We can see all the mental gymnastics (avoid obvious truth) they have to go through to make scripture say something that was never there.
This is the reason when I studied the subject on blood covenant, it really shocked me, and deepened my relationship with God.

So so blessed to be in the blood covenant with Jesus.
 
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