Replacement theology? Yes or No.

[cv5]

Yes, Rev. 20:5 explicitly states so, "this is the FIRST resurrection."

Yet another exhibition of your vast biblical illiteracy, failure to conduct the requisite Greek word studies, and extreme prejudice.

The claim that Revelation 20:5—“This is the first resurrection”—requires one single, all-inclusive resurrection event at Christ’s return does not follow from the text. “First” means first in order or kind, not “the only resurrection involving the saved.”


Revelation itself establishes two radically different resurrection destinies:

“Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power.” (Rev. 20:6)

The defining feature of the first resurrection is therefore not merely chronology, but character and destiny: those participating in it are blessed, holy, and immune from the second death. It is the resurrection unto life.

This corresponds exactly with Christ’s distinction:

John 5:28–29
“all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation [judgment].”

Jesus distinguishes two categories of resurrection—life and judgment. He does not say they must occur at the same moment.

Revelation 20 actually makes their chronological separation explicit. The Tribulation martyrs “lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years” (20:4), while:

“the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.” (20:5)

That sentence alone destroys the idea that “first resurrection” means there can be no subsequent resurrection. There plainly is another resurrection after the thousand years. Revelation 20:11–15 then describes the dead standing before the Great White Throne and being consigned to the lake of fire—“the second death.”

Thus:

First resurrection → resurrection unto LIFE
Later resurrection → resurrection unto JUDGMENT


Nor does “first resurrection” require every righteous person to be raised at precisely the same instant. Paul explicitly introduces the concept of order or sequence:

“But every man in his own order [Greek tagma]: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.” (1 Cor. 15:23)

Tagma denotes an ordered arrangement, rank, or division. Resurrection can therefore be one great divine program while occurring in successive stages.


Scripture itself already presents such stages. Christ was raised first as the Firstfruits (1 Cor. 15:20–23). The Church is raised at the harpazō (1 Thess. 4:16–17; 1 Cor. 15:51–52). Revelation 20:4 then explicitly presents Tribulation martyrs being raised to reign with Christ. Daniel 12:2, 13 anticipates the resurrection and inheritance of Old Testament saints.

These need not be collapsed into one simultaneous second. They belong to the same class of resurrection—the resurrection of the justified unto life.


Luke even calls it:

“the resurrection of the just.” (Luke 14:14)

So “first resurrection” is best understood as the resurrection program of the righteous, distinguished absolutely from the resurrection of the wicked. Participation in it may occur in divinely ordered stages, but everyone in that category receives life and is beyond the power of the second death.

The Great White Throne resurrection is qualitatively different. Revelation 20:12–15 portrays “the dead” summoned for judgment after the Millennium; those not found in the Book of Life are cast into the lake of fire.

Therefore the amillennial broad-brush argument—

“Revelation says FIRST resurrection, therefore Scripture permits only one resurrection event for all believers”

—is a non sequitur.

“First” does not mean “only,” nor does it demand “all participants simultaneously.” Revelation itself says another resurrection follows a thousand years later. The real contrast is the biblical one:

Resurrection of the just → LIFE → no power of the second death.
Resurrection of the unjust → JUDGMENT → the second death.

That is precisely the distinction Christ made in John 5:29, and Revelation 20 brings that distinction to its final eschatological fulfillment.

 

[Lovette]

Yet another exhibition of your vast biblical illiteracy, failure to conduct the requisite Greek word studies, and extreme prejudice.

The claim that Revelation 20:5—“This is the first resurrection”—requires one single, all-inclusive resurrection event at Christ’s return does not follow from the text. “First” means first in order or kind, not “the only resurrection involving the saved.”


Revelation itself establishes two radically different resurrection destinies:



The defining feature of the first resurrection is therefore not merely chronology, but character and destiny: those participating in it are blessed, holy, and immune from the second death. It is the resurrection unto life.

This corresponds exactly with Christ’s distinction:

John 5:28–29
“all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation [judgment].”

Jesus distinguishes two categories of resurrection—life and judgment. He does not say they must occur at the same moment.

Revelation 20 actually makes their chronological separation explicit. The Tribulation martyrs “lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years” (20:4), while:



That sentence alone destroys the idea that “first resurrection” means there can be no subsequent resurrection. There plainly is another resurrection after the thousand years. Revelation 20:11–15 then describes the dead standing before the Great White Throne and being consigned to the lake of fire—“the second death.”


Thus:

First resurrection → resurrection unto LIFE
Later resurrection → resurrection unto JUDGMENT


Nor does “first resurrection” require every righteous person to be raised at precisely the same instant. Paul explicitly introduces the concept of order or sequence:



Tagma denotes an ordered arrangement, rank, or division. Resurrection can therefore be one great divine program while occurring in successive stages.


Scripture itself already presents such stages. Christ was raised first as the Firstfruits (1 Cor. 15:20–23). The Church is raised at the harpazō (1 Thess. 4:16–17; 1 Cor. 15:51–52). Revelation 20:4 then explicitly presents Tribulation martyrs being raised to reign with Christ. Daniel 12:2, 13 anticipates the resurrection and inheritance of Old Testament saints.

These need not be collapsed into one simultaneous second. They belong to the same class of resurrection—the resurrection of the justified unto life.


Luke even calls it:



So “first resurrection” is best understood as the resurrection program of the righteous, distinguished absolutely from the resurrection of the wicked. Participation in it may occur in divinely ordered stages, but everyone in that category receives life and is beyond the power of the second death.

The Great White Throne resurrection is qualitatively different. Revelation 20:12–15 portrays “the dead” summoned for judgment after the Millennium; those not found in the Book of Life are cast into the lake of fire.

Therefore the amillennial broad-brush argument—

“Revelation says FIRST resurrection, therefore Scripture permits only one resurrection event for all believers”

—is a non sequitur.

“First” does not mean “only,” nor does it demand “all participants simultaneously.” Revelation itself says another resurrection follows a thousand years later. The real contrast is the biblical one:

Resurrection of the just → LIFE → no power of the second death.
Resurrection of the unjust → JUDGMENT → the second death.

That is precisely the distinction Christ made in John 5:29, and Revelation 20 brings that distinction to its final eschatological fulfillment.

yes, there's a second after the first, but none before that, therefore no pretrib resurrection.

 

[God-fearing]

Brother, the “think it through” scenario you’re proposing only feels chaotic because you’re assuming a two‑stage resurrection that Scripture never teaches; the New Testament presents a single eschatological event in which all the dead are raised (John 5:28–29; Acts 24:15), Christ appears, the righteous are gathered to Him, and the wicked are judged — not two different resurrections separated by eras, destinies, or mechanics.
[/feared.


Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

 

[Lovette]

Has Jesus and the saints after Him already been resurrected? I know you believe Jesus has already resurrected, so how does another resurrection after His and after the saints who rose after Him count as numerically first?

Jesus was the first fruit, they were the final harvest. There are only two, Dan. 12:2, Jn. 5:28-29, one for the saved, the other for the unsaved. There's no "zeroth" mass surrection for the saved before the tribulation.

 

[cv5]

yes, there's a second after the first, but none before that, therefore no pretrib resurrection.

Do you find it interesting that your dogma is being constantly and perpetually debunked?
There are many who do, myself included.

Yes, the truth will ALWAYS shine forth despite the forces of darkness, ignorance and opposition.

 

[OMC]

Yet another exhibition of your vast biblical illiteracy, failure to conduct the requisite Greek word studies, and extreme prejudice.

The claim that Revelation 20:5—“This is the first resurrection”—requires one single, all-inclusive resurrection event at Christ’s return does not follow from the text. “First” means first in order or kind, not “the only resurrection involving the saved.”


Revelation itself establishes two radically different resurrection destinies:



The defining feature of the first resurrection is therefore not merely chronology, but character and destiny: those participating in it are blessed, holy, and immune from the second death. It is the resurrection unto life.

This corresponds exactly with Christ’s distinction:

John 5:28–29
“all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation [judgment].”

Jesus distinguishes two categories of resurrection—life and judgment. He does not say they must occur at the same moment.

Revelation 20 actually makes their chronological separation explicit. The Tribulation martyrs “lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years” (20:4), while:



That sentence alone destroys the idea that “first resurrection” means there can be no subsequent resurrection. There plainly is another resurrection after the thousand years. Revelation 20:11–15 then describes the dead standing before the Great White Throne and being consigned to the lake of fire—“the second death.”

Thus:

First resurrection → resurrection unto LIFE
Later resurrection → resurrection unto JUDGMENT


Nor does “first resurrection” require every righteous person to be raised at precisely the same instant. Paul explicitly introduces the concept of order or sequence:



Tagma denotes an ordered arrangement, rank, or division. Resurrection can therefore be one great divine program while occurring in successive stages.


Scripture itself already presents such stages. Christ was raised first as the Firstfruits (1 Cor. 15:20–23). The Church is raised at the harpazō (1 Thess. 4:16–17; 1 Cor. 15:51–52). Revelation 20:4 then explicitly presents Tribulation martyrs being raised to reign with Christ. Daniel 12:2, 13 anticipates the resurrection and inheritance of Old Testament saints.

These need not be collapsed into one simultaneous second. They belong to the same class of resurrection—the resurrection of the justified unto life.


Luke even calls it:



So “first resurrection” is best understood as the resurrection program of the righteous, distinguished absolutely from the resurrection of the wicked. Participation in it may occur in divinely ordered stages, but everyone in that category receives life and is beyond the power of the second death.

The Great White Throne resurrection is qualitatively different. Revelation 20:12–15 portrays “the dead” summoned for judgment after the Millennium; those not found in the Book of Life are cast into the lake of fire.

Therefore the amillennial broad-brush argument—

“Revelation says FIRST resurrection, therefore Scripture permits only one resurrection event for all believers”

—is a non sequitur.

“First” does not mean “only,” nor does it demand “all participants simultaneously.” Revelation itself says another resurrection follows a thousand years later. The real contrast is the biblical one:

Resurrection of the just → LIFE → no power of the second death.
Resurrection of the unjust → JUDGMENT → the second death.

That is precisely the distinction Christ made in John 5:29, and Revelation 20 brings that distinction to its final eschatological fulfillment.

I could not find any mainstream journals but what does exist are historical analyses showing dispensationalism is a 19th‑century movement (Darby, 1830s; Scofield, 1909) rather than an apostolic or patristic doctrine, and academic critiques arguing its core claims (a strict Israel–Church separation, a future rebuilt temple with sacrifices, multiple resurrections, a millennial era with sin and death) are not found in the early church or the text itself.
I also found some religious journals describing how it shaped American evangelical culture — but none of these claim theological authority; they simply show the movement is historically recent, interpretively novel, and not rooted in the early church’s reading of Scripture. Can anyone over there care to explain this?

 

[Delvianna]

Has Jesus and the saints after Him already been resurrected? I know you believe Jesus has already resurrected, so how does another resurrection after His and after the saints who rose after Him count as numerically first?

It's the first of it's kind in a resurrection, like what Lovette said, it's the first mass, global resurrection. Not a resurrection in general. When people resurrected when Christ did, it was isolated to that area only.

 

[cv5]

Jesus was the first fruit, they were the final harvest. There are only two, Dan. 12:2, Jn. 5:28-29, one for the saved, the other for the unsaved. There's no "zeroth" mass surrection for the saved before the tribulation.

If we restrict the list to resurrection unto eternal life/glorified life and exclude ordinary restorations to mortal life such as Lazarus, Jairus’s daughter, and Dorcas, Scripture presents the following stages or episodes:

1. Jesus Christ — the Firstfruits
   
   • Matthew 28:5–7; 1 Corinthians 15:20–23
   • Christ is the first to rise never to die again, the Firstfruits and guarantee of the resurrection harvest.
2. The saints who came out of the graves after Christ’s resurrection
   
   • Matthew 27:52–53
   • “Many bodies of the saints which slept arose.”
   • This is a unique resurrection associated directly with Christ’s victory over death.
   • Caution: Scripture does not explicitly say whether these saints received permanent glorified bodies or were restored temporarily to mortal life. Therefore this episode should be listed, but not dogmatically equated with the later glorified resurrections.
3. The dead in Christ — the Church at the Rapture
   
   • 1 Thessalonians 4:13–17; 1 Corinthians 15:51–53
   • “The dead in Christ shall rise first.”
   • Living Church saints are then instantaneously transformed.
   • This resurrection is explicitly unto incorruption and immortality.
4. The Two Witnesses
   
   • Revelation 11:3–12
   • They are killed by the Beast, lie dead for 3½ days, then:
     
     

     “the Spirit of life from God entered into them”

   • They stand, ascend to heaven in a cloud, and are therefore an unmistakable supernatural resurrection during the Tribulation.
   • The text strongly implies entrance into heavenly life rather than another temporary mortal restoration.
5. Old Testament saints
   
   • Daniel 12:1–2, 13; Isaiah 26:19
   • Daniel is promised:
     
     

     “you shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the end of the days.”

   • In the dispensational chronology, this resurrection occurs after the Tribulation, associated with Israel’s deliverance and the establishment of Messiah’s earthly kingdom.
6. Tribulation martyrs
   
   • Revelation 20:4–6
   • Those beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and refusal to worship the Beast:
     
     

     “they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.”

   • John explicitly places them in “the first resurrection.”
   • They enter the Millennial Kingdom as resurrected saints.
7. Other saved Tribulation saints who die
   
   • Revelation 20:4 explicitly emphasizes the martyrs, while Daniel 12 provides the broader resurrection context associated with the end of the Tribulation.
   • Many dispensational interpreters therefore understand the post-Tribulation resurrection to encompass the righteous dead of the pre-Church and Tribulation eras, although Scripture gives the martyrs special prominence.

The overall pattern​

Paul provides the controlling principle:

1 Corinthians 15:22–23

“As in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order…”

The Greek τάγμα (tagma) means an order, rank, arrangement, or division. Thus resurrection unto life is not required to occur in one simultaneous instant.

The sequence is approximately:

Christ
→ Matthew 27 saints (unique/uncertain as to glorification)
→ Church at the harpazō
→ Two Witnesses
→ Old Testament saints
→ Tribulation martyrs / righteous Tribulation dead

These collectively belong to the broad biblical category John calls “the first resurrection”—resurrection unto life—in contrast to the resurrection of the wicked at the Great White Throne, Revelation 20:11–15, which is resurrection unto judgment.

So “first resurrection” does not mean one single resurrection event occurring at one moment. It identifies the class or order of resurrection unto life, which Scripture itself unfolds in distinguishable stages.

 

[cv5]

It's the first of it's kind in a resurrection, like what Lovette said, it's the ***first*** mass, global resurrection. Not a resurrection in general. When people resurrected when Christ did, it was isolated to that area only.

No, your definition is categorically wrong. The category of the FIRST RESURRECTION is to life.

The “first resurrection” does not mean one single resurrection event occurring at one moment. It identifies the class or order of resurrection unto life, which Scripture itself unfolds in distinguishable stages.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I'm pretty sure Paul wasn't referring to ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:52-53‬ in his teaching of the resurrection in 1 Cor. 15.

Yeah why would paul an apostle and witness of Christ and the gospel be teaching what’s the lord taught

here’s what Paul said

“But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

1 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits;


2 afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:20-
seems pretty self explainitory it’s not like pup was inventing new things he was witnessing the gospel

all of his doctrine is what Jesus began teaching

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

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It's the first of it's kind in a resurrection, like what Lovette said, it's the first mass, global resurrection. Not a resurrection in general. When people resurrected when Christ did, it was isolated to that area only.

And they weren't immortal. They died. None of them got clothed in immortality. We ALL get that immortality at the SAME TIME, dead and alive, when Jesus returns.

 

[cv5]

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And they weren't immortal. They died. None of them got clothed in immortality. We ALL get that immortality at the SAME TIME, dead and alive, when Jesus returns.

Repeating something ad nauseam is not proof.

Contrarily, as you can see, I have already disproven your position while proving the pre-trib rapture by actually utilizing the entire Word comprehensively to that effect.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Repeating something ad nauseam is not proof.

Contrarily, as you can see, I have already disproven your position while proving the pre-trib rapture by actually utilizing the entire Word comprehensively to that effect.

Pre-trib can only be proven when it ACTUALLY happens. You haven't proven anything.

 

[Delvianna]

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And they weren't immortal. They died. None of them got clothed in immortality. We ALL get that immortality at the SAME TIME, dead and alive, when Jesus returns.

Yep! Good point!

 

[Delvianna]

It also creates a huge problem if you resurrect people at the beginning of the trib just for the rapture since the resurrection comes first (1 Thessalonians 4:15). You then have all those trib saints that died and all those martyrs that died. There aren't 3 resurrections, theres only 2. So you're essentially saying, they have to wait till the end of the millennial reign to be resurrected when that goes against scripture about ALL saints are with Christ. All means all....

 

[Churchgoer]

Dispensationalism insists on a hard Israel–Church distinction and a literalized prophetic timeline, so it tries to make “bride” refer to one group (the Church) and “guests” refer to another (OT saints, tribulation saints, Israel, etc.).
But Revelation 19 never says that.
The text simply uses two metaphors in the same scene.
The contradiction is not in Revelation.
It’s in the system being imposed on Revelation.

In OT, many times God describes Israel as His wife, then God also use adultery as symbolizing Israel s unfaithfulness, embracing idols.

This is the reason Jesus come to lay down His life for many, whoever accept Him is His bride, receiving life from Jesus.

As far as wedding guests, it symbolize whoever accepting Jesus invitation. It is another parable, not to have 2 groups, bride and guests. Jesus also taught other parables, such as faithful servant. Why not have a 3rd group, servants?

Simple Bible message, Jesus and us. No separation of us.

 

[Delvianna]

In OT, many times God describes Israel as His wife, then God also use adultery as symbolizing Israel s unfaithfulness, embracing idols.

This is the reason Jesus come to lay down His life for many, whoever accept Him is His bride, receiving life from Jesus.

As far as wedding guests, it symbolize whoever accepting Jesus invitation. It is another parable, not to have 2 groups, bride and guests. Jesus also taught other parables, such as faithful servant. Why not have a 3rd group, servants?

Simple Bible message, Jesus and us. No separation of us.

To simplify what it means: the guests represent everyone who is invited to and participates in the wedding. The marriage itself is a symbolic picture of God’s covenant relationship with Israel being finally restored and made permanent.

So it's not 2 different classes like bride vs guests of people, like some are closer to God than others. It is symbolic roles within the parable: Israel is depicted as the bride, God/Christ as the bridegroom, and everyone gathered to the wedding as guests.

I just wanted to simplify what you stated, I completely agree with it

 

[Pilgrimshope]

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And they weren't immortal. They died. None of them got clothed in immortality. We ALL get that immortality at the SAME TIME, dead and alive, when Jesus returns.

“And they weren't immortal. They died.”

that doesn’t appear in the Bible. Everything else you said is your opinion. With no scriptural basis

The resurrection happens when Christ is present once here for Israel’s saints like thier covenant said would happen when the messiah came ……

“Therefore prophesy and say unto them, ( the children of israel in thier covenant ) Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭37:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that was said by osraels prophet hindreds of years before this happened when the lord appeared among them

“and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:52-53‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There’s absolutely no mention on earth of these men after on earth to say they all died is personal opinion.

And then again when he returns from heaven there will be another resurrection for the people under this covenant that we are promised by the New Testament ….

“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭4:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This isn’t Israel’s Old Testament promise of a resurrection it’s a New Testament promise for Christian’s of a resurrection . There are two resurrections with a long space between them ( not a literal 1000yrs ) the first resurrection is the people who had been waiting in the ot for thier promise of a resurrection when the messiah came

The last resurrectio comes at the conclusion of the New Testament when Jesus returns and the world ends ….. then those who are already in Jerusalem in heaven those who had been “redeemed from the earth “ of the tribes of Israel . Will descend in the new Jerusalem upon a new earth

heaven already has its kingdom and many are there …..


Note that we are changed from what we are

“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:51-52‬ ‭


“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
‭‭John‬ ‭11:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Komentaja]

“And they weren't immortal. They died.”

that doesn’t appear in the Bible. Everything else you said is your opinion. With no scriptural basis

The resurrection happens when Christ is present once here for Israel’s saints like thier covenant said would happen when the messiah came ……

“Therefore prophesy and say unto them, ( the children of israel in thier covenant ) Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭37:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that was said by osraels prophet hindreds of years before this happened when the lord appeared among them

“and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:52-53‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There’s absolutely no mention on earth of these men after on earth to say they all died is personal opinion.

And then again when he returns from heaven there will be another resurrection for the people under this covenant that we are promised by the New Testament ….

“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭4:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This isn’t Israel’s Old Testament promise of a resurrection it’s a New Testament promise for Christian’s of a resurrection . There are two resurrections with a long space between them ( not a literal 1000yrs ) the first resurrection is the people who had been waiting in the ot for thier promise of a resurrection when the messiah came

The last resurrectio comes at the conclusion of the New Testament when Jesus returns and the world ends ….. then those who are already in Jerusalem in heaven those who had been “redeemed from the earth “ of the tribes of Israel . Will descend in the new Jerusalem upon a new earth

heaven already has its kingdom and many are there …..


Note that we are changed from what we are

“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:51-52‬ ‭


“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
‭‭John‬ ‭11:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If the 1st resurrection was in the 1st century the question is who was the beast, what was the mark?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

To simplify what it means: the guests represent everyone who is invited to and participates in the wedding. The marriage itself is a symbolic picture of God’s covenant relationship with Israel being finally restored and made permanent.

So it's not 2 different classes like bride vs guests of people, like some are closer to God than others. It is symbolic roles within the parable: Israel is depicted as the bride, God/Christ as the bridegroom, and everyone gathered to the wedding as guests.

I just wanted to simplify what you stated, I completely agree with it

Consider before you respond …but then tell me what you think about this way of looking at the old and new testaments

The last two verses of the ot prophets

“Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: and he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭4:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Now let’s investigate some things Jesus Christ our lord was teaching in the gospel when he came into isreal preaching the gospel of the kingdom to them.

“But I say unto you, That Elijah is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. ( john was beheaded )

Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. ( crucified Jesus )

Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭17:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

And if ye will receive it, this is Elijah, which was for to come.

He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:13-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Here’s another short example

second to last chapter of the prophets

“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭3:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The beginning of the gospel

“The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, Which shall prepare thy way before thee.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. And there went out unto him all the land of Judæa, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬


even though many people are waiting for Elijah to come and restore the order of earthly Jerusalem …….it’s only because they aren’t hearing what Jesus is saying or they explain why what Jesus said is not the thing to believe …..