What happened to...Eve?

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I'm reading other books at the moment and have requested Paradise Lost, as that is about Eve (and Adam) but I would be interested if you could share some bits of what you read of this book.

Or since it's in the public domain, maybe a passage. Did it help you understand Eve better? I guess its kind of filling in the gaps of what we do know about her from the Bible. I imagine being the 'mother of all living' having birthed plenty of children she would have been a legendary figure/matriarch to everyone in the earliest days.
its a nice story to read, I did this about 20 years + ago. i believe there is truth in it but to what extent? it is where discernment is needed and that Comes from the Holy Spirit, if you read it you will see for yourself . but I will provide a few passages here below:

Chapter V - Eve makes a noble and emotional intercession, taking theblame on herself.


1 Then Adam and Eve entered the cave, and stood praying, in their owntongue, unknown to us, but which they knew well.


2 And as they prayed, Adam raised his eyes and saw the rock and theroof of the cave that covered him overhead. This prevented him fromseeing either heaven or God's creatures. So he cried and beat hischest hard, until he dropped, and was as dead.


3 And Eve sat crying; for she believed he was dead.


4 Then she got up, spread her hands toward God, appealing to Him formercy and pity, and said, "O God, forgive me my sin, the sin which Icommitted, and don't remember it against me.


5 For I alone caused Your servant to fall from the garden into thiscondemned land; from light into this darkness; and from the house ofjoy into this prison.


6 O God, look at this Your servant fallen in this manner, and bring himback to life, that he may cry and repent of his transgression which hecommitted through me.


7 Don't take away his soul right now; but let him live that he maystand after the measure of his repentance, and do Your will, as beforehis death.


8 But if You do not bring him back to life, then, O God, take away myown soul, that I be like him, and leave me not in this dungeon, one andalone; for I could not stand alone in this world, but with him only.


9 For You, O God, caused him to fall asleep, and took a bone from hisside, and restored the flesh in the place of it, by Your divine power.


10 And You took me, the bone, and make me a woman, bright like him,with heart, reason, and speech; and in flesh, like to his own; and Youmade me after the likeness of his looks, by Your mercy and power.


11 O Lord, I and he are one, and You, O God, are our Creator, You areHe who made us both in one day.


12 Therefore, O God, give him life, that he may be with me in thisstrange land, while we live in it on account of our transgression.


13 But if You will not give him life, then take me, even me, like him;that we both may die the same day."


14 And Eve cried bitterly, and fell on our father Adam; from her greatsorrow.




Chapter VI - God's reprimand to Adam and Eve in which he points out howand why they sinned.



1 But God looked at them; for they had killed themselves through greatgrief.


2 But He decided to raise them and comfort them.


3 He, therefore, sent His Word to them; that they should stand and beraised immediately.


4 And the Lord said to Adam and Eve, "You transgressed of your own freewill, until you came out of the garden in which I had placed you.


5 Of your own free will have you transgressed through your desire fordivinity, greatness, and an exalted state, such as I have; so that Ideprived you of the bright nature in which you then were, and I madeyou come out of the garden to this land, rough and full of trouble.


6 If only you had not transgressed My commandment and had kept My law,and had not eaten of the fruit of the tree which I told you not to comenear! And there were fruit trees in the garden better than that one.


7 But the wicked Satan did not keep his faith and had no good intenttowards Me, that although I had created him, he considered Me to beuseless, and sought the Godhead for himself; for this I hurled him downfrom heaven so that he could not remain in his first estate—it was hewho made the tree appear pleasant in your eyes, until you ate of it, bybelieving his words.


8 Thus have you transgressed My commandment, and therefore I havebrought on you all these sorrows.


9 For I am God the Creator, who, when I created My creatures, did notintend to destroy them. But after they had sorely roused My anger, Ipunished them with grievous plagues, until they repent.


10 But, if on the contrary, they still continue hardened in theirtransgression, they shall be under a curse forever."

Chapter XIII - The fall of Adam. Why night and day were created.


1 Then when God, who is merciful and full of pity, heard Adam's voice, He said to him:—

2 "O Adam, so long as the good angel was obedient to Me, a bright light rested on him and on his hosts.

3 But when he transgressed My commandment, I deprived him of that bright nature, and he became dark.

4 And when he was in the heavens, in the realms of light, he knew nothing of darkness.

5 But he transgressed, and I made him fall from the heaven onto the earth; and it was this darkness that came over him.

6 And on you, O Adam, while in My garden and obedient to Me, did that bright light rest also.

7 But when I heard of your transgression, I deprived you of that bright light. Yet, of My mercy, I did not turn you into darkness, but I made you your body of flesh, over which I spread this skin, in order that it may bear cold and heat.

8 If I had let My wrath fall heavily on you, I should have destroyed you; and had I turned you into darkness, it would have been as if I had killed you.

9 But in My mercy, I have made you as you are; when you transgressed My commandment, O Adam, I drove you from the garden, and made you come forth into this land; and commanded you to live in this cave; and darkness covered you, as it did over him who transgressed My commandment.

10 Thus, O Adam, has this night deceived you. It is not to last forever; but is only of twelve hours; when it is over, daylight will return.

11 Sigh not, therefore, neither be moved; and say not in your heart that this darkness is long and drags on wearily; and say not in your heart that I plague you with it.

12 Strengthen your heart, and be not afraid. This darkness is not a punishment. But, O Adam, I have made the day, and have placed the sun in it to give light; in order that you and your children should do your work.

13 For I knew you would sin and transgress, and come out into this land. Yet I wouldn't force you, nor be heard over you, nor shut up; nor doom you through your fall; nor through your coming out from light into darkness; nor yet through your coming from the garden into this land.

14 For I made you of the light; and I willed to bring out children of light from you and like to you.

15 But you did not keep My commandment one day; until I had finished the creation and blessed everything in it.

16 Then, concerning the tree, I commanded you not to eat of it. Yet I knew that Satan, who deceived himself, would also deceive you.

17 So I made known to you by means of the tree, not to come near him. And I told you not to eat of the fruit thereof, nor to taste of it, nor yet to sit under it, nor to yield to it.

18 Had I not been and spoken to you, O Adam, concerning the tree, and had I left you without a commandment, and you had sinned—it would have been an offence on My part, for not having given you any order; you would turn around and blame Me for it.

19 But I commanded you, and warned you, and you fell. So that My creatures cannot blame Me; but the blame rests on them alone.

20 And, O Adam, I have made the day so that you and your descendants can work and toil in it. And I have made the night for them to rest in it from their work; and for the beasts of the field to go forth by night and look for their food.

21 But little of darkness now remains, O Adam, and daylight will soon appear."




Chapter XIV - The earliest prophesy of the coming of Christ.


1 Then Adam said to God: "O Lord, take You my soul, and let me not see this gloom any more; or remove me to some place where there is no darkness."

2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Indeed I say to you, this darkness will pass from you, every day I have determined for you, until the fulfillment of My covenant; when I will save you and bring you back again into the garden, into the house of light you long for, in which there is no darkness*. I will bring you to it—in the kingdom of heaven."

3 Again said God to Adam, "All this misery that you have been made to take on yourself because of your transgression, will not free you from the hand of Satan, and will not save you.

4 But I will. When I shall come down from heaven, and shall become flesh of your descendants, and take on Myself the infirmity from which you suffer, then the darkness that covered you in this cave shall cover Me in the grave, when I am in the flesh of your descendants.

5 And I, who am without years, shall be subject to the reckoning of years, of times, of months, and of days, and I shall be reckoned as one of the sons of men, in order to save you."

6 And God ceased to commune with Adam.
 
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Like the Catholics were up in arms about The Da Vinci Code, but of course, that wasn't real either. Mary Magadelene did not marry or have secret children with Jesus.
 
its a nice story to read, I did this about 20 years + ago. i believe there is truth in it but to what extent? it is where discernment is needed and that Comes from the Holy Spirit, if you read it you will see for yourself . but I will provide a few passages here below:

Chapter V - Eve makes a noble and emotional intercession, taking theblame on herself.


1 Then Adam and Eve entered the cave, and stood praying, in their owntongue, unknown to us, but which they knew well.


2 And as they prayed, Adam raised his eyes and saw the rock and theroof of the cave that covered him overhead. This prevented him fromseeing either heaven or God's creatures. So he cried and beat hischest hard, until he dropped, and was as dead.


3 And Eve sat crying; for she believed he was dead.


4 Then she got up, spread her hands toward God, appealing to Him formercy and pity, and said, "O God, forgive me my sin, the sin which Icommitted, and don't remember it against me.


5 For I alone caused Your servant to fall from the garden into thiscondemned land; from light into this darkness; and from the house ofjoy into this prison.


6 O God, look at this Your servant fallen in this manner, and bring himback to life, that he may cry and repent of his transgression which hecommitted through me.


7 Don't take away his soul right now; but let him live that he maystand after the measure of his repentance, and do Your will, as beforehis death.


8 But if You do not bring him back to life, then, O God, take away myown soul, that I be like him, and leave me not in this dungeon, one andalone; for I could not stand alone in this world, but with him only.


9 For You, O God, caused him to fall asleep, and took a bone from hisside, and restored the flesh in the place of it, by Your divine power.


10 And You took me, the bone, and make me a woman, bright like him,with heart, reason, and speech; and in flesh, like to his own; and Youmade me after the likeness of his looks, by Your mercy and power.


11 O Lord, I and he are one, and You, O God, are our Creator, You areHe who made us both in one day.


12 Therefore, O God, give him life, that he may be with me in thisstrange land, while we live in it on account of our transgression.


13 But if You will not give him life, then take me, even me, like him;that we both may die the same day."


14 And Eve cried bitterly, and fell on our father Adam; from her greatsorrow.




Chapter VI - God's reprimand to Adam and Eve in which he points out howand why they sinned.



1 But God looked at them; for they had killed themselves through greatgrief.


2 But He decided to raise them and comfort them.


3 He, therefore, sent His Word to them; that they should stand and beraised immediately.


4 And the Lord said to Adam and Eve, "You transgressed of your own freewill, until you came out of the garden in which I had placed you.


5 Of your own free will have you transgressed through your desire fordivinity, greatness, and an exalted state, such as I have; so that Ideprived you of the bright nature in which you then were, and I madeyou come out of the garden to this land, rough and full of trouble.


6 If only you had not transgressed My commandment and had kept My law,and had not eaten of the fruit of the tree which I told you not to comenear! And there were fruit trees in the garden better than that one.


7 But the wicked Satan did not keep his faith and had no good intenttowards Me, that although I had created him, he considered Me to beuseless, and sought the Godhead for himself; for this I hurled him downfrom heaven so that he could not remain in his first estate—it was hewho made the tree appear pleasant in your eyes, until you ate of it, bybelieving his words.


8 Thus have you transgressed My commandment, and therefore I havebrought on you all these sorrows.


9 For I am God the Creator, who, when I created My creatures, did notintend to destroy them. But after they had sorely roused My anger, Ipunished them with grievous plagues, until they repent.


10 But, if on the contrary, they still continue hardened in theirtransgression, they shall be under a curse forever."

Chapter XIII - The fall of Adam. Why night and day were created.


1 Then when God, who is merciful and full of pity, heard Adam's voice, He said to him:—

2 "O Adam, so long as the good angel was obedient to Me, a bright light rested on him and on his hosts.

3 But when he transgressed My commandment, I deprived him of that bright nature, and he became dark.

4 And when he was in the heavens, in the realms of light, he knew nothing of darkness.

5 But he transgressed, and I made him fall from the heaven onto the earth; and it was this darkness that came over him.

6 And on you, O Adam, while in My garden and obedient to Me, did that bright light rest also.

7 But when I heard of your transgression, I deprived you of that bright light. Yet, of My mercy, I did not turn you into darkness, but I made you your body of flesh, over which I spread this skin, in order that it may bear cold and heat.

8 If I had let My wrath fall heavily on you, I should have destroyed you; and had I turned you into darkness, it would have been as if I had killed you.

9 But in My mercy, I have made you as you are; when you transgressed My commandment, O Adam, I drove you from the garden, and made you come forth into this land; and commanded you to live in this cave; and darkness covered you, as it did over him who transgressed My commandment.

10 Thus, O Adam, has this night deceived you. It is not to last forever; but is only of twelve hours; when it is over, daylight will return.

11 Sigh not, therefore, neither be moved; and say not in your heart that this darkness is long and drags on wearily; and say not in your heart that I plague you with it.

12 Strengthen your heart, and be not afraid. This darkness is not a punishment. But, O Adam, I have made the day, and have placed the sun in it to give light; in order that you and your children should do your work.

13 For I knew you would sin and transgress, and come out into this land. Yet I wouldn't force you, nor be heard over you, nor shut up; nor doom you through your fall; nor through your coming out from light into darkness; nor yet through your coming from the garden into this land.

14 For I made you of the light; and I willed to bring out children of light from you and like to you.

15 But you did not keep My commandment one day; until I had finished the creation and blessed everything in it.

16 Then, concerning the tree, I commanded you not to eat of it. Yet I knew that Satan, who deceived himself, would also deceive you.

17 So I made known to you by means of the tree, not to come near him. And I told you not to eat of the fruit thereof, nor to taste of it, nor yet to sit under it, nor to yield to it.

18 Had I not been and spoken to you, O Adam, concerning the tree, and had I left you without a commandment, and you had sinned—it would have been an offence on My part, for not having given you any order; you would turn around and blame Me for it.

19 But I commanded you, and warned you, and you fell. So that My creatures cannot blame Me; but the blame rests on them alone.

20 And, O Adam, I have made the day so that you and your descendants can work and toil in it. And I have made the night for them to rest in it from their work; and for the beasts of the field to go forth by night and look for their food.

21 But little of darkness now remains, O Adam, and daylight will soon appear."




Chapter XIV - The earliest prophesy of the coming of Christ.


1 Then Adam said to God: "O Lord, take You my soul, and let me not see this gloom any more; or remove me to some place where there is no darkness."

2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Indeed I say to you, this darkness will pass from you, every day I have determined for you, until the fulfillment of My covenant; when I will save you and bring you back again into the garden, into the house of light you long for, in which there is no darkness*. I will bring you to it—in the kingdom of heaven."

3 Again said God to Adam, "All this misery that you have been made to take on yourself because of your transgression, will not free you from the hand of Satan, and will not save you.

4 But I will. When I shall come down from heaven, and shall become flesh of your descendants, and take on Myself the infirmity from which you suffer, then the darkness that covered you in this cave shall cover Me in the grave, when I am in the flesh of your descendants.

5 And I, who am without years, shall be subject to the reckoning of years, of times, of months, and of days, and I shall be reckoned as one of the sons of men, in order to save you."

6 And God ceased to commune with Adam.
Thanks that is so interesting.
Esp the bit about Adam falling asleep and Eve thinking he was dead. And of course night time coming and not being able to see anything in the dark, because they were in a cave.
 
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Like the Catholics were up in arms about The Da Vinci Code, but of course, that wasn't real either. Mary Magadelene did not marry or have secret children with Jesus.

All Christians should be, that's an extreme blasphemy. Besides even that though to tie back into the topic, that's why its fruitless to consult forgeries, heresies, and "fake writing' if you actually want to know about Eve. This is why the simple plain-reading of the trustworthy canon is the best source for knowledge about Eve.
 
Interesting also the passages you quoted have been numbered so you can reference them like we do the Bible with each verse.

Many people don't bother to do that with other books. I mean imagine if every book of fiction had numbered passages. The indexer's eyes would hurt.
 
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I have read it and I laughed about them putting Satan in India, but its a heretical forgery. There is no truth in it.
do we talk of the same book? i refer to the first book of adam and eve. in any case I never said it was canon or the truth it is a "nice story" pleasant to read this is what i said
 
Remember Jesus cursed the fig tree, it didn't have any fruit. It wasn't like it was picked clean, it just literally did not have any or bear fruit. But it could have been the wrong season..I don't think fig trees fruit year round.
 
do we talk of the same book? i refer to the first book of adam and eve. in any case I never said it was canon or the truth it is a "nice story" pleasant to read this is what i said
haha India was not even a named nation back when Adam and Eve would have lived. So he's probably not even reading the same book as you.
 
@2Christ how did you come across this book? Was it in the library and you just happened to pick it up or were you actually looking for it. Or did a friend lend it to you.
 
do we talk of the same book? i refer to the first book of adam and eve. in any case I never said it was canon or the truth it is a "nice story" pleasant to read this is what i said
We are talking about the same book. It's not really a nice story, it's just a lie.
 
Interesting also the passages you quoted have been numbered so you can reference them like we do the Bible with each verse.

Many people don't bother to do that with other books. I mean imagine if every book of fiction had numbered passages. The indexer's eyes would hurt.
its a very old book about 2000 years old and was preserved in Ethiopia if I remember correctly. the Holy Spirit will tell you what is true or not have no worries.
 
Genesis packs a lot of stories into one book for sure.
I mean some figures like Ruth and Esther get their own books, but Eve does not, neither does Joseph or Noah. Of course the Jewish people call the first five books of the Bible the Torah or Books of Moses. The pentatauch.

But Christians tend not to. Also often people don't really distinguish the New Testament from the Old.

Obviously the person/author who wrote this book about Adam and Eve was a Christian, because they mentioned Christ. It never pretends to be a book Adam or Eve wrote themselves lol
 
no one is forcing you to read it......please pass.
I'd just passover.

Sometimes the stuff he says is a bit ignorant. I worked in libraries that had thousands if not millions of books. I kind of know which ones are fiction and which ones are not.
 
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@2Christ how did you come across this book? Was it in the library and you just happened to pick it up or were you actually looking for it. Or did a friend lend it to you.
I found it from an internet archive that has many books about many different religions, unfortunately some truly evil books are found there also so I will never give the link for that reason. I have not been there myself for a long time and don't plan to go back. I truly believe some books in that archive can corrupt a soul. Some knowledge should remain in darkness destroyed and never be read again. I cannot expose anyone to this.
 
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Genesis packs a lot of stories into one book for sure.
I mean some figures like Ruth and Esther get their own books, but Eve does not, neither does Joseph or Noah. Of course the Jewish people call the first five books of the Bible the Torah or Books of Moses. The pentatauch.

But Christians tend not to. Also often people don't really distinguish the New Testament from the Old.

Obviously the person/author who wrote this book about Adam and Eve was a Christian, because they mentioned Christ. It never pretends to be a book Adam or Eve wrote themselves lol

That's incredibly incorrect. The forgery was written by non-Christians, a heretic is not a Christian. A Christian isn't going to write a heretical forgery trying to revise the sacred scriptures and exchange the revealed truth for lies.

Also Chapter XVIII is the one where Satan is sent to India btw. They also skipped about how Adam was afraid of the Sun even though the Sun was created before he even was.
 
I found it from an internet archive that has many books about many different religions, unfortunately some truly evil books are found there also so I will never give the link for that reason. I have not been there myself for a long time and don't plan to go back. I truly believe some books in that archive can corrupt a soul. Some knowledge should remain in darkness destroyed and never be read again. I cannot expose anyone to this.
Well when I was working in the library, we had books on every topic under the sun, so, yea there were some books that had to be classified/restricted and of course there are books banned from certain places.

I don't read things from archives sometimes there are things you shouldn't read. That's why I'm not keen to work in archives. too much bad stuff from the past that need to be forgotten.
 
i asked AI to find the ISBN number....its so easy to do so now... lol.

The clearest standalone edition I found is:

The First Book of Adam and Eve — Rutherford H. Platt
Mamba Press, 2024
ISBN-10: 9798330380589
148 pages.

There is also an older standalone reprint:

First Book of Adam and Eve — Rutherford Platt
Book Jungle, 2009
ISBN-10: 1438519346
ISBN-13: 9781438519340
102 pages.

However, the edition I would recommend for your purpose is the larger collection:

The Forgotten Books of Eden — Rutherford H. Platt
Echo Point Books & Media, 2021
ISBN-10: 1648370187
ISBN-13: 9781648370182
288 pages. It contains both the First and Second Books of Adam and Eve, along with several other ancient writings.

There is also a widely reprinted edition:

The Lost Books of the Bible and The Forgotten Books of Eden
Plume, 1974
ISBN-13: 9780452009448
640 pages.

One important thing, especially given what we've been examining: these modern books are editions of the English translation tradition associated with Solomon Caesar Malan and Rutherford Platt; they are not the original ancient manuscript. The First Book of Adam and Eve is part of the work commonly known as The Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan, preserved in Ethiopic.

For actually studying the text chapter by chapter, I would choose The Forgotten Books of Eden (ISBN 9781648370182) because it gives you the First and Second Books together rather than an isolated modern reprint.
 
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