If we were not discussing Jews and Israel you would be able to know the difference between people and political establishments.
Replacement theology? Yes or No.
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Fruchtenbaum is a 4 star O-10 Bible expert general.
Whereas I consider you to have bombed out of basic training......
That was more like all of them are children of the devil.
The ones that accepted Jesus stopped being pharisees and became Christians
John 3 please read.So your final conclusion in the matter of the interpretation of the book of Hosea as regards the person (and type) of Gomer is that God DOES NOT finally and ultimately forgives her, loves and redeems her? But rather God finally and ultimately rejects and hates her?
Why do you so furiously kick against the goads?
Take it to Jesus. I don't make rules. I am nobody, but a child of God.
Praise Jesus!!!
UNTIL "the time come" that they will.
To this agree Hosea, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Zechariah and the list goes on.......
Act 1:6
When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:11
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Mat 17:11
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
Act 3:21
“whom heaven must receive UNTIL the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.
Luk 13:35
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, UNTIL the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Luk 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, UNTIL the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, UNTIL the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
The fox is more intelligent than the dog,
but people choose the dog
because it is faithful.
UNTIL "the time come" that they will.
To this agree Hosea, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Zechariah and the list goes on.......
Act 1:6
When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:11
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Mat 17:11
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
Act 3:21
“whom heaven must receive UNTIL the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.
Luk 13:35
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, UNTIL the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Luk 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, UNTIL the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, UNTIL the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Then again, those "until" arguments are not that intelligent.
So true....like we are supposed to believe Jesus meant some huge leap into the far, far future.
"The fox is more intelligent than the dog,
but people choose the dog
because it is faithful."
And that is what passes for high level legit bible scholarship for the supercessionists and RT's.
And a FYI for the viewing audience, this is ALWAYS and forever how these threads wrap up
when dealing with the RT crew.
A whimper and then slinking into the shadows......
Well child of God, you had best find a Church that is on track with accurate Bible doctrine.
And be zealous to learn it.
True .....so why are so many against this modern so called Israel? Quite confusing to me. Denial of there land and right to defend it.
It starts with the perversion of the Gospel view.
Some here believe Jesus was murdered rather than a willng sacrifice .
Some here believe 70 AD was a judgment of God viewing the crucifixion as a abomination.
Some here believe that the great tribulation started 70 AD.
Some here believe 1948 was some political agenda and should of never been. This is just a few examples.
I stand by this one thing. Jesus came in his first advent to remove the sin that prevented all of of the prophecy to be fulfilled.
Why because all of the prophecy point to him and the salvation of all that believe in him.
Therefore the prophecies are fulfilled. Sin is removed. But for those who reject the Christ the law of death remains.
That is the message of the Gospel there is a means of escape from the judgment to come....Christ crucified.
And that my friend is not a abomination but good news
I am not really sure what it is you are asking?
Simple answer...... the Old Covenant was fulfilled and no longer required, it is in the Book of Hebrews.
What do you say to an ethnic jew today, don't follow Jesus as Abraham did, Paul did, Peter did....Continue with your unfaithfulness? And I will help you with your unfaithfulness?UNTIL "the time come" that they will.
To this agree Hosea, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Zechariah and the list goes on.......
Act 1:6
When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:11
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Mat 17:11
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
Act 3:21
“whom heaven must receive UNTIL the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.
Luk 13:35
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, UNTIL the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Luk 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, UNTIL the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, UNTIL the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
That's the rich man in hell that he wants Lazarus to go tell his living brothers, return to God. But Jesus says if they don't listen to Moses, even someone from the dead rises, they still don't listen.
Jesus is the living God risen from dead!!!!!
Return to Jesus today.
The synagogue of Satan was prior to 70 AD as well, just so you know.
Uh... yes? That is what you should see in reality. Jesus said Jerusalem is trampled by the gentiles UNTIL.......... and they have been trampled by gentiles for 2000 years.
