Applying God's Word to Politics

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Yes, and on the flip side the devil deceives believers through other "believers"

Matthew 24:4,5 - And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in My Name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

*Many includes those claiming "I am anointed to speak for God" that are deceiving many (false teachers)

2 Timothy 4:3,4 - For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine (teaching); but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 2:1-3 - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying (contradicting, Not agreeing with) the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness (idolatry) shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.

Jude 1:4 - For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (no self control, living after the flesh), and denying (contradicting, opposing Jesus’ teachings) the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (referring to false teachers and false brethren - see Matthew 13:24-30)

Acts 20:27-30 - For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.



Because I seek Truth directly from the Lord based on His Word, I won't be following any of the denominations or so called organized religion as these are clown shows easily taken over and corrupted by the devil simply because these people and organizations FAIL to simply accept the whole counsel of God - They consistently present the wisdom of man as though it were the wisdom of the Lord and they continue in their error fueled by their desire to remain in good standing with whatever their favorite religious social club is.

Matthew 7:13,14 - Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

The Lord will always have a remnant, and they are the few He speaks of in Matthew 7:13,14



Right, let me guess - anybody that disagrees with you is being argumentative in your view?

It is impossible not to belong to a group of people who believe similarly enough to be called a denomination, so I encourage you to embrace truthseeking as perhaps the most fundamental and inclusive way of describing the narrow way and the remnant.

Also, let us refrain from calling folks names, because some of them may be more holy than we. Instead, let us pray everyone will learn God's Word and reflect the love of Christ (Eph. 3:16-19), seeking wisdom as well as fellowship, including on CC.
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So maybe you can answer the question regarding whether you would allow a couple such as Abraham and his wife Sarah to immigrate into the United States based upon what is written in the scripture regarding Abraham?

And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake.
And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.

Gen 20:11-12



There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:4

Isn't the hope of your calling by Jesus for the forgiveness of your sin through repentance?

They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick which is the reason many are called but few are chosen.
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Matt 9:13

(And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. )

Yes, our hope is for forgiveness of sins so that we may go to heaven (Rom. 8:22-25).
 
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You should look for Truth in God's Word which is the only source of Truth according to Jesus - John 17:17

Those looking to denominations for truth will end up in deception
Gee, and scripture tells us that we can learn of God through the natural world. How does that make God's Word, which according to scripture is a person, not a written work, become reconciled with that?
 
You should look for Truth in God's Word which is the only source of Truth according to Jesus - John 17:17

Those looking to denominations for truth will end up in deception

God's Word was revealed to folks before the OT and then the NT were written.
Even after the Bible was written it was not widely published until after the printing press was invented circa 1500 AD.
Do you deny general revelation via creation and conscience?
Do you think you are infallible?
 
God's Word was revealed to folks before the OT and then the NT were written.
Even after the Bible was written it was not widely published until after the printing press was invented circa 1500 AD.
Do you deny general revelation via creation and conscience?
Do you think you are infallible?

And so you disagree with what the Lord said in John 17:17 then?
 
So are you saying "no" since the US does not allow individuals married to their siblings to enter the US?

I'm not the One that said obey the law in 1 Peter 2:13,14 and in Romans 13:1-4
The Lord Jesus said this.

So can we put you down as one that rejects what the Lord says in His Word and you just do whatever you want?

1 Peter 2:13,14 - Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

Romans 13:1-4 - Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
 
And so you disagree with what the Lord said in John 17:17 then?

No, I disagree with your fallible claim that John 17:17 means "You should look for Truth in God's Word which is the only source of Truth", because God's Word was revealed to folks before the OT and then the NT were written, and even after the Bible was written it was not widely published until after the printing press was invented circa 1500 AD, so folks were judged on the basis of general revelation via creation and conscience (Rom. 1:2, 2:12-4:3).
 
Jesus literally said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)

You are welcome to tell Him He's wrong if you'd like and let Him know His Word is not the only source of Truth.

You certainly bit off more than you can chew this time!
 
Jesus literally said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)

You are welcome to tell Him He's wrong if you'd like and let Him know His Word is not the only source of Truth.

You certainly bit off more than you can chew this time!

I discern an unteachable spirit in you that ignores Genesis 1 and John 1,
which teach that God's Word is not confined to Scripture but is also revealed via creation and the preincarnate Logos
as well as via the post-NT indwelling Holy Spirit (John 16:12-13).
 
I discern an unteachable spirit

That's the devil trying to get you to deny that Jesus literally said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)

What Jesus said isn't good enough for you?

You can do the new age kumbaya meditation to open the spirits all you want, but if it doesn't agree with what the Lord ordained to be put in to His Canon, it's of the devil.
 
God's Word is not confined to Scripture

So you are like the catholics and believe in extra biblical teachings and traditions?

Speaking of the devil, do you blame him for your ignoring what Jesus said in all of Scripture?

I'm the one trying to tell you that you need to accept the whole counsel of God... that the Lord commissioned to be put in to written form.

FYI - extra biblical teachings and traditions end badly
 
Sure you have the right to not accept all the Lord says in His Word.
Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth. Mark 9:23

Do you believe it is possible for God to lie? If not then why don't you accept all your Lord says in his word?