The man in Genesis 3 versus Cain in chapter 4.

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ZuluKono

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I'm not declaring anything here, just observing.

Aside from their respective sins of "disobedience" and murder, couldn't you basically substitute one for the other?
 
I'm not declaring anything here, just observing. Aside from their respective sins of "disobedience" and murder, couldn't you basically substitute one for the other?
Hello ZuluKono, I'm have trouble understanding what you are getting at because I don't understand why someone would want to "substitute" Cain for Adam or Adam for Cain :unsure:

Both are sinners, but Adam was the first and only man who was wholly created by God (and that w/o a fallen nature when he was).

Cain, on the other hand, was born a begotten child of our first parents, just like all of us have been, and with a fallen, sinful nature, just like we have (and as a child of wrath, just like we were) .. e.g. Ephesians 2:1-3, 4-5.

So again (for me, at least), please explain what your purpose or point is (in wanting to substitute the first human being for his first son) :unsure:

Thanks :)

God bless you!!

~Deuteronomy
 
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I'm not declaring anything here, just observing.

Aside from their respective sins of "disobedience" and murder, couldn't you basically substitute one for the other?
The man in Genesis 3 is Adam. He was Cain's father. They both sinned, I agree, but why should we even want to substitute one for the other?
 
I'm not declaring anything here, just observing.

Aside from their respective sins of "disobedience" and murder, couldn't you basically substitute one for the other?
One was the father (Adam). His first born son was Cain.
You can't substitute one for the other.
Did Adam kill his brother? He did not have a brother.

Then again, Abel was Adam's 2nd son. Can you substitute one for the other there to?
I don't think Adam killed himself....