"Show me anywhere that Jesus or an apostle was nice and loving to the devil or demons."
They at that time knew them.. but today its "who are you, who knows you, how long have you walked in what you believe/preach". Now I may disagree with people like John MacArthur, Oral Roberts, Hagin, Billy Graham and so many know known preachers. We may disagree with doctrines that don't touch salvation yet its wise to listen to them.
Anyway for me it would seem the lawless one (Satan) has no power over the Church never will its written. That Church has all power all authority over him, demons, fallen angels. That will never change...its Christ in us and Christ would have to leave us for Satan to have any power over us...only way is if we someone willingly do say believe and allow him to. I believe..
So for me would seem this Church would have to be gone then the lawless one comes out in the open. Odd how he can't now. For me reading I would be gone and never know how he was. Right now by our own merits we are not worthy.. you are worthy holy pure righteous because you believe in Jesus Christ. That does not can not come from you.. it has to be Him "However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness."
I don't get stuck on this. He not man He told me to watch and pray be ready. In the late 1980's to me.. me He said which really got my life turned back to Him "something evil is coming on this world but before that something wonderful will happen. Watch and pray watch and pray watch and pray be ready". I never add to that .. I know what it can sound like yet I never go there why? He never said that. And His word were told to watch be ready now. I was not promised tomorrow in His word. He gave me now today .. so my choice? I will watch for Him expect Him now. I will never miss Him.
I can not say about those that freely willingly do not watch do not believe.. He comes now what happens. They are telling Him when He comes. Then those that say only a few will go or all will go. Lol.. I don't know for fact pre mid post. I know what I personally believe.. since I can not fully proof it I watch believe now. Now is what He gave me.
Blade:
Interesting take on Satan, daemons and devils. In Job, God's satan was His dialog partner, His satan as the prosecuting attorney working for God. In Job when used with the definite article (
ha-satan, "the accuser" or "the adversary"), it functions as a title for a celestial prosecutor in God's heavenly court. In Hebrew bible texts, Satan does not act as an independent ruler of hell or an arch-enemy of God, but as a member of the heavenly assembly (
ha-elohim) who tests human righteousness or brings accusations with God's explicit permission. The exact singular word "devil" does not exist in the Hebrew Old Testament an evil spirit afflicted Saul and a lying spirit accomplished God's plan.
And Jesus called Peter "Satan."
If demons are some kind of eternal evil beings and God created everything that was made and 100% was "good," where did these eternal anti-God beings come from? We know from the bible that heaven was corrupt before the earth was created as some of God's heavenly sexually mature male angels came to breed with earthly women but were so evil God had to kill them all. How does that work?
If there are fallen angels then it means that salvation is not necessarily eternal as some percent of the saved will turn into future fallen angels, right? If God could not keep his old angels in line, why do we think given how depraved we will be as angels that we too will become fallen as eternity is a long time.
Jesus told a group of religious opponents in John 8:44 that their father was the devil, though the Gospel text refers to them generally as "the Jews" who were arguing with Him, rather than explicitly naming the Pharisees in that specific verse. But then Jesus tells us that what we call our religion must exceed the righteous living of the Pharisees.
Jesus equated physical diseases and dysfunctions as being caused by demons. Should we be calling the church elders to cure us or use modern medicine to call out the demons?
When Jesus was confronted with a man full of demons he cast those demons out the man and into pigs. Should we keep pigs, just in case?
In the Gospel according to Mark, Jesus commanded the demons to keep quiet about Him as He did not want anybody to know who he was before Jesus was ready. So, perhaps we should pray for Jesus to quiet our demons.
In Luke 11 Jesus seems to indicate if a demon is removed from a person but that person does not turn from his former evil ways then: 24“When an unclean spirit goes out of a person, it passes through waterless places looking for rest but not finding any. Then it says, ‘I will return to the home I left.’ 25 When it returns, it finds the house swept clean and put in order. 26 Then it goes and brings seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they go in and live there, so the last state of that person is worse than the first.” Jesus seems to suggest what you do with your life has a lot to do with your demons.
Interesting subject