Messiah Christ Anointed Hebrew Greek English

[Pilgrimshope]

Christ was never dead tho , Jesus son of man lamb of the world born of the Anointing Christ Messiah.

“But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“ christ “ is the promised messiah

“The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:25-

In the ot the report of the prophets and Moses makes up the ot. I’m tbier wprds tbey all spoke of a savior , a “ messiah “ a king , a son who would be born , a servant who would give his life for the sins of the people but would be raised up again afterwards. God began to promise him to restore Israel with a new and better covenant

 

[frederickdoc]

Which angel said child? Gabriel said to Mary:

NKJV Luk 1:31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.

In Matthew's gosp[el, He is called "Jesus Christ" from birth:

Mat 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.

Why the Angel Of The Lord Says "Child" Instead of His Name
The entire understanding of the spiritual shift explains exactly why the angel does this.
He is Describing His Vulnerable State (As a Man): To take all authority, Jesus had to start from the absolute bottom of man existence—as a helpless manchild infant. By repeatedly calling Him "the Young Child," the Angel of The Lord highlights that at this moment in history, The Ultimate King on the Throne was wrapped up in the flesh of a tiny, vulnerable boy who needed to be carried by night to escape an earthly dictator. And to your other note jesus christ saying from Mathew

The Gospel is Written After the Resurrection
When the Apostle Matthew sat down to write this book, he was writing it years after Jesus had already died, risen, been quickened in the spirit, and taken all authority. Matthew isn't guessing who the Baby is—he is introducing Him by His full legal, eternal title. It’s like a historian writing a biography of a president and saying, "President Abraham Lincoln was born in a log cabin." Lincoln wasn't the president when he was a baby, but that was his ultimate identity. Matthew uses "Jesus Christ" right out of the gate to declare exactly who this baby grew up to be.

 

[frederickdoc]

You avoided answering my question.
Is it possible to be anointed by a counterfeit spirit?
I would answer, "yes".

So back to my question.
How do you know if the anointing you receive is from God's true Holy Spirit or is it a counterfeit?

I kinda suspect you don't really know.

How do you know there is a counterfeit and and then I'll give you an answer from the Holy Spirit how's that? You may only know because I may have shown the scripture to you

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Yeah I should add for to clear up few things about Messiah.
In the old testament it wastranslated to English its pretty plan to see Messiah was translated to Anoint anointed anointed one Christ dint think .I really didn't go chk But test me out.i don't mind being wrong I learn more from it truely

Christ ……

prophecy

“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭7:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Fulfilment

“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There are lots of those one was this one

“Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:4-6, 8-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬
Another

“The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined. …..For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:2, 6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Another

“My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? All they that see me laugh me to scorn: They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: Let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him. For dogs have compassed me: The assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: They pierced my hands and my feet. I may tell all my bones: They look and stare upon me. They part my garments among them, And cast lots upon my vesture.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭22:1, 7-8, 16-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬


The point being when we say Jesus “ the Christ “ or jesus “ the messiah “ we’re acknowledging that he is the one God had been promising who would come the redeemer and holy one of Israel and the king of kings and lord of lords


When they are talking about Jesus being Christ they’re arguing that he is the one the ot was about who was to come …….

 

[Davidstarr]

How do you know there is a counterfeit and and then I'll give you an answer from the Holy Spirit how's that? You may only know because I may have shown the scripture to you

You said yourself above there is a counterfeit spirit.
Again you have avoided the question.

I think you have no way of knowing if the spirit you are anointed with is actually God's Spirit or a counterfeit.

Answer the question or admit you don't know, can't tell the difference....

 

[frederickdoc]

“But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“ christ “ is the promised messiah

“The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:25-

In the ot the report of the prophets and Moses makes up the ot. I’m tbier wprds tbey all spoke of a savior , a “ messiah “ a king , a son who would be born , a servant who would give his life for the sins of the people but would be raised up again afterwards. God began to promise him to restore Israel with a new and better covenant

Then what? The how maybe? Seems the most important part got skipped!! For most oart saying is true but skipping on the branched is like a lie serious .

 

[frederickdoc]

You said yourself above there is a counterfeit spirit.
Again you have avoided the question.

I think you have no way of knowing if the spirit you are anointed with is actually God's Spirit or a counterfeit.

Answer the question or admit you don't know, can't tell the difference.... 

Your gonna have to show me thats exactly what i said now cus I was talking about the Old Testament in the warning about counterfeits . all I feel is thou shall not tempt the Lord thy God in a holy spirit is God

 

[frederickdoc]

Christ ……

prophecy

“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭7:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Fulfilment

“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There are lots of those one was this one

“Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:4-6, 8-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬
Another

“The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined. …..For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:2, 6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Another

“My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? All they that see me laugh me to scorn: They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: Let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him. For dogs have compassed me: The assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: They pierced my hands and my feet. I may tell all my bones: They look and stare upon me. They part my garments among them, And cast lots upon my vesture.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭22:1, 7-8, 16-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬


The point being when we say Jesus “ the Christ “ or jesus “ the messiah “ we’re acknowledging that he is the one God had been promising who would come the redeemer and holy one of Israel and the king of kings and lord of lords


When they are talking about Jesus being Christ they’re arguing that he is the one the ot was about who was to come …….

There is much thats a fact and many more facts .i go with the anointed with the anointing Only God can anoint its wriiten. jesus was Anointed by God but hang in there. Jesus fulfilling all the laws and the prophets the anointed became the one with the anointing which only God himself can Anoint. do you remember this in the mornings in the Old TTestament?The also Jesus couldn't give out the anointing until he was Seated High Priest to Sabbath Rest at heaven's throne & he was given all authority as a son of man glorified Lord& God just shows a few things that Jesus is God because he has the anointing to anoint and that is of the Holy Spirit and this is the branch of the prophecy and you'll see in the New Testament then expand it to who to them that received the Holy Spirit the anointing from the King high priest Lord and God . And Son of Man glorifiedLord God is the New creation One Nation By The quickened advance ETernal Rauch Parah.
Note the high priest can never sit down and rest on the Sabbath they were too busy cuz the nation was so unclean figured I'd throw this note in there to help show part of the picture the full picture I could never feel it all out for you people you have to to have the Holy Spirit working within yourselves that's all I can say be baptized in Jesus name you'd be surprised you you will know the Jesus name alone but I have to start with being clean and the high priest is the one that's done it for us and now when he left he was blessing and and still blessing seated High preist and if you don't understand that then go back to the order of Melchizedek and then notice how The Greater brings the gift

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Yeah I should add for to clear up few things about Messiah.
In the old testament it wastranslated to English its pretty plan to see Messiah was translated to Anoint anointed anointed one Christ dint think .I really didn't go chk But test me out.i don't mind being wrong I learn more from it truely

Christ ……

prophecy

“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭7:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Fulfilment

“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There are lots of those one was this one

“Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:4-6, 8-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬
Another

“The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined. …..For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:2, 6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Another

“My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? All they that see me laugh me to scorn: They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: Let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him. For dogs have compassed me: The assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: They pierced my hands and my feet. I may tell all my bones: They look and stare upon me. They part my garments among them, And cast lots upon my vesture.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭22:1, 7-8, 16-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬


The point being when we say Jesus “ the Christ “ or jesus “ the messiah “ we’re acknowledging that he is the one God had been promising who would come the redeemer and holy one of Israel and the king of kings and lord of lords


When they are talking about Jesus being Christ they’re arguing that he is the one the ot was about who was to come …….

Then what? The how maybe? Seems the most important part got skipped!! For most oart saying is true but skipping on the branched is like a lie serious .…….

What ?

 

[DavidLamb]

Why the Angel Of The Lord Says "Child" Instead of His Name
The entire understanding of the spiritual shift explains exactly why the angel does this.
He is Describing His Vulnerable State (As a Man): To take all authority, Jesus had to start from the absolute bottom of man existence—as a helpless manchild infant. By repeatedly calling Him "the Young Child," the Angel of The Lord highlights that at this moment in history, The Ultimate King on the Throne was wrapped up in the flesh of a tiny, vulnerable boy who needed to be carried by night to escape an earthly dictator.

I agree that when the Saviour came to earth, taking on human flesh, then as far as His flesh was concerned, He had the same weaknesses as other men. He grew tired, hungry, thirsty. He felt pain and sorrow. But as John wrote, |He was still fully God. "The Word was God", and "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us."

And to your other note jesus christ saying from Mathew

The Gospel is Written After the Resurrection
When the Apostle Matthew sat down to write this book, he was writing it years after Jesus had already died, risen, been quickened in the spirit, and taken all authority. Matthew isn't guessing who the Baby is—he is introducing Him by His full legal, eternal title. It’s like a historian writing a biography of a president and saying, "President Abraham Lincoln was born in a log cabin." Lincoln wasn't the president when he was a baby, but that was his ultimate identity. Matthew uses "Jesus Christ" right out of the gate to declare exactly who this baby grew up to be.

But He is talking about the birth, not what He would grow up to be. He wrote, "The birth of Jesus Christ." I read what you wrote about an American president, but Abraham Lincoln was not eternal, like Jesus Christ is:

Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jhn 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Jhn 1:3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

Jhn 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.


He didn't become Christ, or become God. He is likened to Melchizedek, with no beginning and no end. Where in the Bible are we told that He became Christ?

 

[Revelation1v8]

jesus is the Word and is God John By the Holy Ghost said it perfectly ! But notice he was the first to say it and this is New Testament and this is you should see in John. is he talking about the word was the word flesh in the bigging . I I hear in the spirit right now and he became flesh so who's telling who to read what why don't you just hop out of religious play oen and get the true baptism

I'm not sure what you just said entirely, but no, Jesus was not made human flesh in the beginning when He was with God. He was a spirit who was capable of manifesting into the physical world for people to see him, but He wasn't human flesh yet. He spoke to and ate with Abraham in Genesis 18. He would appear and disappear at will, just like He did AFTER the resurrection from His human body.

 

[Toddini]

Jesus was with God from the beginning. Elohim & YHWH, Father and Son, God and the Word, doesn't really matter what name is used, it is the same. No trinity.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Jesus was with God from the beginning. Elohim & YHWH, Father and Son, God and the Word, doesn't really matter what name is used, it is the same. No trinity.

1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Although, the Holy Spirit only works as a witness for both the Father and the Son and carries out their will.

 

[DavidLamb]

Jesus was with God from the beginning. Elohim & YHWH, Father and Son, God and the Word, doesn't really matter what name is used, it is the same. No trinity.

Why no Trinity? John tells us that the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Later he writes that the Word became flesh and dwelt among them (the disciples), so "the Word" clearly refers to Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is also God, as Peter makes clear when speaking to Ananias, he equates lying to the Holy Spirit to lying to God:

NKJV Act 5:3 But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself?
Act 5:4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God."

 

[frederickdoc]

I'm not sure what you just said entirely, but no, Jesus was not made human flesh in the beginning when He was with God. He was a spirit who was capable of manifesting into the physical world for people to see him, but He wasn't human flesh yet. He spoke to and ate with Abraham in Genesis 18. He would appear and disappear at will, just like He did AFTER the resurrection from His human body.

Why did i point out the word became flesh need to back track i was reply to something correct noting flesh was not at the beginning . can't have it two ways well you can if you know who Jesus was and is at the certain time . some would say Jesus was to become God or is God Was God! Is it really 100% true? . When God came to make himself Man and a Son of man is seated right now on the throne but he did it in a new creation he's the first of many and he done it by all authority Heaven and Earth. To get exactly what he wanted to do and to bring us back to him and the only way it was what he didti how God became man and that Son of man is seated just like He said rrevelation and to finish it off on the Earth on David seat , also as sooken promise prophecy

 

[Revelation1v8]

some would say Jesus was to become God or is God Was God! Is it really 100% true? . When God came to make himself Man and a Son of man is seated right now on the throne but he did it in a new creation he's the first of many and he done it by all authority Heaven and Earth.

Yes, it's true. Jesus is God. He is currently sitting at the right hand of the Father, but once He fulfills all prophecies on the earth, and we see the New Jerusalem/Heaven coming down, we won't be seeing them as separate any longer. Jesus is the image of the invisible God, but we will get to see Him in His FULL GLORY in Heaven once Satan, Hell, & Death have all been destroyed.

 

[frederickdoc]

Yes i did piont to this

Yes, it's true. Jesus is God. He is currently sitting at the right hand of the Father, but once He fulfills all prophecies on the earth, and we see the New Jerusalem/Heaven coming down, we won't be seeing them as separate any longer. Jesus is the image of the invisible God, but we will get to see Him in His FULL GLORY in Heaven once Satan, Hell, & Death have all been destroyed.

Jesus is Man dont forget also and we are to be as He Is Same anounted Holy Spirit will raise All incorruptible! It's a whole new nation ,a creation and only God can do and Jesus showed himself as proof

 

[frederickdoc]

You avoided answering my question.
Is it possible to be anointed by a counterfeit spirit?
I would answer, "yes".

So back to my question.
How do you know if the anointing you receive is from God's true Holy Spirit or is it a counterfeit?

I kinda suspect you don't really know.

So you get your head out of it and put your heart into it . This is what I was talking about as counterfeit anointing ref to OT in a nt scripture!!
Start with Connecting the fragrance of the crucifixion to the Old Testament holy anointing oil reveals a powerful biblical parallel.
In Exodus 30:22-33, God gave Moses a highly specific, sacred recipe for the holy anointing oil—composed of liquid myrrh, sweet cinnamon, fragrant cane (calamus), cassia, and olive oil. God strictly prohibited anyone from counterfeiting or duplicating this formula for personal or common use. The penalty for creating a knock-off or pouring it on an "outsider" was severe: that person would be "cut off from his people".
When you layer this Old Testament boundary over the New Testament account of Jesus’ death, the spiritual imagery connects deeply in three ways:
The Divine Fragrance of the Real Messiah
The word Christ (from the Greek Christos) and Messiah (from the Hebrew Mashiach) both literally mean "The Anointed One".
Because the Old Testament oil could not be replicated, the unique aroma of a true priest or king was unmistakable. When Jesus went to the cross, He was literally carrying the heavy, costly aroma of pure spikenard (poured out by Mary of Bethany just days prior) and was offered wine mixed with myrrh. This was not a generic scent; it was a sensory declaration that the true, un-counterfeitable Messiah was fulfilling His role as the ultimate High Priest.
The Un-Counterfeitable "Finished Work"
The strict penalty in Exodus protected the exclusivity of God's holy work. Man-made religion often tries to counterfeit the aroma of holiness through external rituals, false excitement, or legalism. However, the true "aroma of Christ" only comes through the crushing of the cross. Just as the spices in Exodus had to be beaten fine and the olives heavily pressed to release the oil, Jesus was bruised and crushed at Calvary. The resulting "fragrant offering" is completely unique—human effort cannot counterfeit the grace, redemption, and atonement achieved at the crucifixion.
Bearing the Ultimate Consequence
The most staggering connection lies in the penalty itself. Exodus 30 states that whoever misuses the oil or acts as a counterfeit will be cut off from God's covenant and presence.
On the cross, Jesus was treated as the ultimate outsider. He took the exact penalty of the law upon Himself, crying out, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" He was willingly "cut off" from the Father's presence so that believers could be brought in. Because He bore the judgment of the broken law, the genuine, spiritual anointing—the Holy Spirit—is now freely given to those who follow Him