Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

[Charlesiii]

Unfortunately, many will suffer who are not even on the ship.

And then they accuse, how we dare criticize their leader and the electorate who put him in office.

Well other countries are getting smart and working together, hopefully in time to avoid a lot of damage.

One benefit of this whole mess, in my opinion, is that it shows everyone how broken the system is. Trump was voted in to do the very opposite of what he is doing - prosecute the Epstein pedophiles (especially in government), America (not Israel) first, end the corruption, hold to account the criminals in government, finish involvement in the Ukraine war (in a day!), and certainly, and no new wars (especially not for 3rd party nations).

It seems fairly certain to me this will continue post midterms. Either a false flag attack (another 9/11) will be used to cancel or invalidate the elections, or voter fraud, or something else, and it's likely that free speech will be clamped down on then also. So if one is making a decision of non-compliance, probably now is a good time to make it, and also determine how far to enforce such decision (as I expect they will use violence - prison or worse - for those unwilling to sacrifice their freedom or moral convictions for their plans).

If they weren't afraid to sanction and/or whitewash the terrorist attack against Charlie Kirk, they won't be afraid to treat any of us unsupportive of their illegal and immoral wars in a similar manner.

 

[HeIsHere]

One benefit of this whole mess, in my opinion, is that it shows everyone how broken the system is. Trump was voted in to do the very opposite of what he is doing - prosecute the Epstein pedophiles (especially in government), America (not Israel) first, end the corruption, hold to account the criminals in government, finish involvement in the Ukraine war (in a day!), and certainly, and no new wars (especially not for 3rd party nations).

It seems fairly certain to me this will continue post midterms. Either a false flag attack (another 9/11) will be used to cancel or invalidate the elections, or voter fraud, or something else, and it's likely that free speech will be clamped down on then also. So if one is making a decision of non-compliance, probably now is a good time to make it, and also determine how far to enforce such decision (as I expect they will use violence - prison or worse - for those unwilling to sacrifice their freedom or moral convictions for their plans).

If they weren't afraid to sanction and/or whitewash the terrorist attack against Charlie Kirk, they won't be afraid to treat any of us unsupportive of their illegal and immoral wars in a similar manner.

Yes agree.

I do think "they" know time is short to keep stringing people along on a the fake eschatology which is becoming harder and harder as the truth comes out, but that does not mean the global collapse they seek will not happen so they can implement their agenda.

The surveillence state is already here in many ways but... I agree it will come down to individuals and individual communities as to how this all plays out.

One thing, I think is true, "they" do worry about the latent power in the people, that is why they have created a docile "brave new world' culture.

Generally speaking, I think the general public/majority do not care, as long as they get their bread and circus.
I do hope I am wrong though.

 

[Lightbeamrider]

One benefit of this whole mess, in my opinion, is that it shows everyone how broken the system is. Trump was voted in to do the very opposite of what he is doing - prosecute the Epstein pedophiles

Trump was voted in on account of Joe Biden open borders, and nobody really cares about dead Epstein.

 

[Lightbeamrider]

Dem proabort bastards

https://twitter.com/x/status/2105065806199394377

 

[Lightbeamrider]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2104916059354538131

MACE: "So if you commit fraud in this country and you are here from Somalia, you don't believe they should be denaturalized and deported?! How much fraud would it take for you to want to denaturalize and deport someone who committed fraud in this country? How much?" DEM: "Again-" MACE: "A billion? Nine billion? Nineteen billion? What would it take for you?" DEM: "Most Somali Minnesotans are citizens." MACE: "The ones that committed fraud, the question was if you understand English, should be those who committed fraud, should they be denaturalized and deported? The Somalians who are here, the ones that can't speak English." DEM: "Under US law-" MACE: "My next question is, this is yes or no, if you marry your brother and you commit immigration fraud, should you be denaturalized and deported?" DEM: "Again, that question seems really inappropriate!!" MACE: "Well, you can't answer my question so that's probably more inappropriate. Can you name one significant contribution to Minnesota from a Somali immigrant who can't speak English?" DEM: "Absolutely, yes, but again, this is-" MACE: "You didn't name one." @NancyMace

 

[ZNP]

Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America​

Oath

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

Note: In certain circumstances there can be a modification or waiver of the Oath of Allegiance. See the USCIS Policy Manual.

The principles embodied in the Oath are codified in Section 337(a) in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), which provides that all applicants shall take an oath that incorporates the substance of the following:

1. Support the Constitution;
2. Renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen;
3. Support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
4. Bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and
5. A. Bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; or
   B. Perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; or
   C. Perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law.

The language of the current Oath is found in the Code of Federal Regulations Section 337.1 and is closely based upon the statutory elements in Section 337(a) of the INA.

 

[ZNP]

Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America​

Oath

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

Note: In certain circumstances there can be a modification or waiver of the Oath of Allegiance. See the USCIS Policy Manual.

The principles embodied in the Oath are codified in Section 337(a) in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), which provides that all applicants shall take an oath that incorporates the substance of the following:

1. Support the Constitution;
2. Renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen;
3. Support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
4. Bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and
5. A. Bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; or
   B. Perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; or
   C. Perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law.

The language of the current Oath is found in the Code of Federal Regulations Section 337.1 and is closely based upon the statutory elements in Section 337(a) of the INA.

Lying under oath during the naturalization interview, on the application, or while taking the Oath of Allegiance is a severe federal offense. If someone knowingly violates the oath or lies to obtain citizenship, the U.S. government treats it as naturalization fraud.
The specific legal penalties under federal law include:

1. Criminal Prosecution and Prison Time

• Standard Fraud: Under 18 U.S.C. § 1425, knowingly procuring naturalization unlawfully or making false statements carries a maximum prison sentence of 10 to 15 years for a first or second offense. [1, 2]
• Aggravated Fraud: The maximum penalty increases drastically to 20 years if the fraud was committed to facilitate drug trafficking, or 25 years if tied to international terrorism. [1]
• False Statements Under Oath: Under 18 U.S.C. § 1015, making any false statement under oath regarding a citizenship matter is a separate felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison. [1, 2]

2. Automatic Loss of U.S. Citizenship (Denaturalization)
If a person is convicted of naturalization fraud under 18 U.S.C. § 1425, the federal court is legally required to automatically revoke, set aside, and declare void their citizenship. The physical certificate of naturalization must be surrendered. [1, 2, 3]
Alternatively, the Department of Justice can initiate civil denaturalization proceedings under 8 U.S.C. § 1451 if they can prove the individual obtained citizenship through "willful misrepresentation" or "concealment of a material fact". [1, 2, 3]



3. Deportation (Removal)
Once citizenship is revoked, the individual returns to non-citizen status. Because they committed a major immigration felony and fraud against the U.S. government, they will generally face immediate removal proceedings under 8 U.S.C. § 1227 to be permanently deported from the United States.

You don't lose your citizenship because later you commit a crime. However, if it can be proven that you were either committing the crime or intended to while taking this oath then yes, you lose your citizenship and can be deported.

 

[Squigglylines]

Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America​

Oath

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

Note: In certain circumstances there can be a modification or waiver of the Oath of Allegiance. See the USCIS Policy Manual.

The principles embodied in the Oath are codified in Section 337(a) in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), which provides that all applicants shall take an oath that incorporates the substance of the following:

1. Support the Constitution;
2. Renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen;
3. Support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
4. Bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and
5. A. Bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; or

6. Lying under oath during the naturalization interview, on the application, or while taking the Oath of Allegiance is a severe federal offense. If someone knowingly violates the oath or lies to obtain citizenship, the U.S. government treats it as naturalization fraud.
   The specific legal penalties under federal law include:
   
   1. Criminal Prosecution and Prison Time
   

   • Standard Fraud: Under 18 U.S.C. § 1425, knowingly procuring naturalization unlawfully or making false statements carries a maximum prison sentence of 10 to 15 years for a first or second offense. [1, 2]
   • Aggravated Fraud: The maximum penalty increases drastically to 20 years if the fraud was committed to facilitate drug trafficking, or 25 years if tied to international terrorism. [1]
   • False Statements Under Oath: Under 18 U.S.C. § 1015, making any false statement under oath regarding a citizenship matter is a separate felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison. [1, 2]

   
   2. Automatic Loss of U.S. Citizenship (Denaturalization)
   If a person is convicted of naturalization fraud under 18 U.S.C. § 1425, the federal court is legally required to automatically revoke, set aside, and declare void their citizenship. The physical certificate of naturalization must be surrendered. [1, 2, 3]
   Alternatively, the Department of Justice can initiate civil denaturalization proceedings under 8 U.S.C. § 1451 if they can prove the individual obtained citizenship through "willful misrepresentation" or "concealment of a material fact". [1, 2, 3]
   
   
   
   3. Deportation (Removal)
   Once citizenship is revoked, the individual returns to non-citizen status. Because they committed a major immigration felony and fraud against the U.S. government, they will generally face immediate removal proceedings under 8 U.S.C. § 1227 to be permanently deported from the United States.
   
   You don't lose your citizenship because later you commit a crime. However, if it can be proven that you were either committing the crime or intended to while taking this oath then yes, you lose your citizenship and can be deported.

   
   
7. 
   B. Perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; or
   C. Perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law.

The language of the current Oath is found in the Code of Federal Regulations Section 337.1 and is closely based upon the statutory elements in Section 337(a) of the INA.

Sort of makes you wonder how someone could be a citizen of South Africa and Canada and then take the oath to be a US citizen without denouncing the other two citizenship's right? Well unless your the richest guy on the planet that might over rule the fine details of the oath,lol.

 

[true_believer]

Baby needs his binky.

Donald: "Canada is one of the worst countries in the entire world . . . We get along with China." The thing is, you've never threatened to take over China and make them the 51st state; and you can't understand why Canada doesn't trust you, SMH. Poor Donald says Canada has treated the US very unfairly, wahhh. Yeah, we know, everyone treats you very unfairly Donald. That's what they'll put on your tombstone: "Everyone treated me unfairly."

His threats and accusations against Canada are so pitiful, that comedians have plenty of material to work with.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

His threats and accusations against Canada are so pitiful, that comedians have plenty of material to work with.

I'm just asking, is anyone in Canada concerned about the DEATH toll from MAID? I didn't capitalize death, guess Google knows the stats too and is amazed. Are any of you aware or concerned that churches are getting involved to help push MAID? Anyone care?

 

[ZNP]

I heard George Carlin explain Trump's popularity and he sounded like an idiot to me. But it got me thinking, why is Trump popular and then it hit me.

People who support Hillary Clinton hate Trump and People who support Trump hate Hillary Clinton. As far as I have seen there is no overlap at all. I have yet to find anyone who is a vocal supporter of either of those two people and yet can say they are ok with the other one.

For people in the middle that are confused by Trump's support know this: Strong supporters of Trump hate Hillary Clinton and Strong supporters of Clinton hate Trump.

 

[HeIsHere]

One benefit of this whole mess, in my opinion, is that it shows everyone how broken the system is. Trump was voted in to do the very opposite of what he is doing - prosecute the Epstein pedophiles (especially in government), America (not Israel) first, end the corruption, hold to account the criminals in government, finish involvement in the Ukraine war (in a day!), and certainly, and no new wars (especially not for 3rd party nations).

It seems fairly certain to me this will continue post midterms. Either a false flag attack (another 9/11) will be used to cancel or invalidate the elections, or voter fraud, or something else, and it's likely that free speech will be clamped down on then also. So if one is making a decision of non-compliance, probably now is a good time to make it, and also determine how far to enforce such decision (as I expect they will use violence - prison or worse - for those unwilling to sacrifice their freedom or moral convictions for their plans).

If they weren't afraid to sanction and/or whitewash the terrorist attack against Charlie Kirk, they won't be afraid to treat any of us unsupportive of their illegal and immoral wars in a similar manner.

Did you catch the possible recent false flag?

 

[Churchgoer]

One benefit of this whole mess, in my opinion, is that it shows everyone how broken the system is. Trump was voted in to do the very opposite of what he is doing - prosecute the Epstein pedophiles (especially in government), America (not Israel) first, end the corruption, hold to account the criminals in government, finish involvement in the Ukraine war (in a day!), and certainly, and no new wars (especially not for 3rd party nations).

It seems fairly certain to me this will continue post midterms. Either a false flag attack (another 9/11) will be used to cancel or invalidate the elections, or voter fraud, or something else, and it's likely that free speech will be clamped down on then also. So if one is making a decision of non-compliance, probably now is a good time to make it, and also determine how far to enforce such decision (as I expect they will use violence - prison or worse - for those unwilling to sacrifice their freedom or moral convictions for their plans).

If they weren't afraid to sanction and/or whitewash the terrorist attack against Charlie Kirk, they won't be afraid to treat any of us unsupportive of their illegal and immoral wars in a similar manner.

This is the reason scripture says not to rely on man, horse, chariot...but only rely on God.
If Trump doing right thing by God, support that, if he is against God, deny that.

Only God is our rock and forever help.

 

[pinebeach]

I'm just asking, is anyone in Canada concerned about the DEATH toll from MAID? I didn't capitalize death, guess Google knows the stats too and is amazed. Are any of you aware or concerned that churches are getting involved to help push MAID? Anyone care?

I'm not up on the current goings on....would you have a link that might bring me up to speed?

Like, how are churches getting involved?

Thanks

 

[pinebeach]

Baby needs his binky.

Donald: "Canada is one of the worst countries in the entire world . . . We get along with China." The thing is, you've never threatened to take over China and make them the 51st state; and you can't understand why Canada doesn't trust you, SMH. Poor Donald says Canada has treated the US very unfairly, wahhh. Yeah, we know, everyone treats you very unfairly Donald. That's what they'll put on your tombstone: "Everyone treated me unfairly."

It's his comments about Canada that has really made me loose respect. Canada is one of the worst countries in the entire world?

I think he is past his best before date. As a Canadian married to an American for just over 26 yrs and living in the US for the last 7 yrs, I object to his narcissistic reviews on how great he is.

It's not nuclear war that is the greatest danger...it's his mouth spewing off in all directions that is going to cause the most trouble. Mark my words.

 

[gb9]

I'm just asking, is anyone in Canada concerned about the DEATH toll from MAID? I didn't capitalize death, guess Google knows the stats too and is amazed. Are any of you aware or concerned that churches are getting involved to help push MAID? Anyone care?

the MAIDS situation in canada is so sad..

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

the MAIDS situation in canada is so sad..

Terribly so! Forcing people to leave the country because healthcare isn't available but MAID is. Every country has its issues. Canada should not be pointing its finger at any other country.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I'm not up on the current goings on....would you have a link that might bring me up to speed?

Like, how are churches getting involved?

Thanks

My mother had the link to the story and I didn't get it from here. Doubt if she could find it now. But I did AI it and it gave me links to churches that were getting involved for and against it. The deaths in one year is shocking. My point is there are a handful here constantly screaming like their hair is on fire about Trump, yet they're in Canada and their boat is full of holes and they look the other way. @true_believer is one of them. It's hypocritical.

 

[ZNP]

Terribly so! Forcing people to leave the country because healthcare isn't available but MAID is. Every country has its issues. Canada should not be pointing its finger at any other country.

So let me get this straight, free health care, paid for by government, ultimately results in the government encouraging people to commit suicide rather than spend the governments money on healthcare.

This reminds me of Fauci calling Cuomo in NY the "Gold standard" for his response to the epidemic when he put sick people back into nursing homes, which saved NYS money on pensions being paid to them when they died.

 

[HeIsHere]

the MAIDS situation in canada is so sad..

Ships that go off course because of bad navigation can right themselves over time....

but but BIG ships with BIG holes doing lots of bad things in the world, go down and down, it make take a while but that is reality.