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Huldah

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Be careful When you refer to the Father and the son. There was only one God (Jesus). The Father is spirit and heaven is in you (It's in the book)--also around you and through you. They became one in the flesh. Head (Jesus), Brain (Father, Spirit).
When Jesus prayed to the Father he was setting and example of how to communicate with him and maybe he was just listening to others plans for him by reading their minds. When he was tempted by the devil he was showing that in truth and the word of God you beat back the devil. Maybe it was Satan who didn't believe that Jesus was God. Satan doesn't know what God is doing he just knew that God was coming sometime in the flesh. Why 40 days and nights? Maybe God wanted to teach Satan a lesson and beat him at his own game and took His time doing so. We don't know exactly what happened.
Remember Jesus is God--there is only one God, not two--there wasn't a Father somewhere else guiding him. Maybe he refered to himself as a son because allthough his intelligence was all there--all that he is wasn't. He is everything and everybody.There are some preachers and teachers that refer to the Father and Son as two different beings. Can anyone refute or clarify these issues? God bless you
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Huldah, am not going to start a discussion but am just here to give you advise. Never base Christianity on what you think or what something may be. All your beliefs must be based on the Bible not on what you think. From what you've shared none of that is stated in the Bible, make sure all your teachings have a biblical background otherwise you will also start your own religion. God bless
 
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Huldah said:
Be careful When you refer to the Father and the son. There was only one God (Jesus). The Father is spirit and heaven is in you (It's in the book)--also around you and through you. They became one in the flesh. Head (Jesus), Brain (Father, Spirit)...Remember Jesus is God--there is only one God, not two--there wasn't a Father somewhere else guiding him. Maybe he refered to himself as a son because allthough his intelligence was all there--all that he is wasn't...
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Last time I checked we were supposed to be careful with those not referring to the Father and the Son.

1John.2

[22] Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
[23] Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
[24] Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
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John.17

[10] And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
[11] And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

[22] And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
[23] I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
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PS. Sorry, won't buy into modalism/oneness. Not scriptural. Have a nice day.
 
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Huldah

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MATTHEW 11:27 ISAIAH 44:6 **EPHESIANS 4:4-6 ISAIAH 45:22-23 JOHN 14:7 **COLOSSIANS 1:15-17 LUKE 17:21 PSALMS 139:6-10 MATTHEW 1:23 REV 1:6 JOHN14:7 1JOHN 4:13
 
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Huldah

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THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD!!!! HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST!!!!! HE WAS THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT IN ONE BODY. HE DID NOT NEED GUIDANCE FROM A FATHER. HE IS THE FATHER. IT IS YOU WHO ARE DENYING CHRIST AS GOD!!!!
 
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Huldah

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1 Corinthians 12:12-27 John 12:44-46 Acts 17-24-30 1 Corinthians 3:16 Ephesians 6:10-18
 
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Ive often struggled with the concept of three separate beings making up One God, it seems one must be a polytheist or defy the laws of logic.
 
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Huldah

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Please read the books, chapters and verses that I gave up above. Do them in the order I wrote them. It should help you a lot. Jesus bless you
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Maybe you could just make your point instead of assigning reading. Ive read those verses before and I still have questions about the logical soundness of the concept that God is three separate and yet One. It only makes sense that there are three Gods that make up the "God head" therefore making Christianity a polytheistic religion. In other words there are three Gods there names are Yahwe, Jesus, and the holy spirit.
 
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Huldah

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The Father is the brain/intelligence/spirit, Jesus is the head/face, the Holy Spirit is the eternal life within one person (Jesus Christ), we are the cells (capable and our own knowledge) of the body of God.--church of believers. This is how we are created in the image of God. Read Revelations in Testamonies. God bless you
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Huldah said:
The Father is the brain/intelligence/spirit, Jesus is the head/face, the Holy Spirit is the eternal life within one person (Jesus Christ), we are the cells (capable and our own knowledge) of the body of God.--church of believers. This is how we are created in the image of God. Read Revelations in Testamonies. God bless you
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"The Father is the brain/intelligence/spirit, Jesus is the head/face, the Holy Spirit is the eternal life within one person (Jesus Christ), we are the cells (capable and our own knowledge) of the body of God.--church of believers. This is how we are created in the image of God" The head and the brain are separate pieces to the body, your just making my point.
 
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I dont have to analize it.

The Father Son and The Holy Ghost

and these three are one. The True Trinity:)

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Satan also has his False Trinity:

Satan, The Beast, and The False Prophet
 
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Huldah

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Declare his sovereignity!!! There is only one God. His name is Jesus Christ. The term Trinity doesn't even need to be applied anymore since ALL know the truth that Jesus is God. This is where Unity came together--in him. There can be no Father or Holy Spirit above him. For none are above God. HE IS GOD----THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. Beware of the spirit of antichrist. It's against Christ's sovereignity.
God Bless You
 
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Love requires at least two parts.

John.17

[22] And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
[23] I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
[24] Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
[25] O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
[26] And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
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Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
 
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Brewhah

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Maybe God wanted to teach Satan a lesson and beat him at his own game and took His time doing so. We don't know exactly what happened.



Israels' sins were hidden in David that year. The prophets put an end to the prophecy, because they couldn't do anything but laugh at the stupidity of the men 'in that day'.


Hosea 13

4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no agod but me: for there is no bsaviour cbeside me.
5 ¶I did aknow thee in the wilderness, in the land of great bdrought.
6 According to their pasture, so were they afilled; they were filled, and their heart was exalted; therefore have they bforgotten me.


Isaiah 48

1 Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the awaters of Judah, which bswear by the name of the Lord, and make cmention of the God of Israel, but not in truth, nor in righteousness.
2 For they call themselves of the aholy city, and bstay themselves upon the God of Israel; The Lord of hosts is his name.
3 I have adeclared the bformer things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass.
4 Because I knew that athou art bobstinate, and thy cneck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass;
5 I have even from the beginning declared it to thee; before it came to pass I shewed it thee: lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them.


Isaiah 47

1 Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of aBabylon, sit on the ground:


7 All my state shall Tychicus declare unto you, who is a beloved brother, and a faithful minister and fellowservant in the Lord:


there is no bthrone, O cdaughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.
2 aTake the millstones, and grind meal:


4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the alaw commanded us, that such should be stoned:

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but what sayest thou?
6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger awrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without asin among you, let him bfirst cast a cstone at her.
8 And again he stooped down, and wrote(Abel) on the ground.
9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own aconscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers?

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hath no man condemned thee?


uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, bpass over the rivers.
3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen:


1Thess. 2

17 But we, brethren, being taken from you for a short time in presence, not in heart, endeavoured the more abundantly to see your aface with great desire.
18 Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.
19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his acoming?
20 For ye are our glory and joy.

I will take vengeance, and aI will not meet thee as a man.
4 As for our redeemer, the Lord(Christ) of hosts is his name, the(Abel) Holy One of Israel.
 
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Brewhah

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tribesman said:
Love requires at least two parts.
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10 aAristarchus my fellowprisoner saluteth you, and bMarcus, csister’s son to Barnabas, (touching whom ye received commandments: if he come unto you, receive him;)
11 And Jesus, which is called Justus, who are of the acircumcision. These only are my fellowworkers unto the kingdom of God, which have been a comfort unto me.
 
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Huldah

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tribesman said:
Last time I checked we were supposed to be careful with those not referring to the Father and the Son.


PS. Sorry, won't buy into modalism/oneness. Not scriptural. Have a nice day.
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Do you not think that the heavenly Father is within you? Was he just NOT in Jesus Christ? Do you not have GOD in you? Get it? Do you believe in two God's? Or do you think that Jesus wasn't God?I'm missing your point.
 
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Huldah

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The flesh is corruptable. What do you think happened when God's flesh disappeared. Do you SEE THE Father yet? We are supposed to see beyond the man that he was (this was the son,man, flesh,"sort of like plucking the "I") and know the God that he is.(Father, Holy Spirit, brain). GET IT? It might be more helpful if only two terms were used in church. Jesus Christ and God. The words Father and son are our words aren't they?
Try going through the Bible and seeking Him first. Take mankind out of the picture until you see God first. What DID you find? You found GOD.
JESUS bless you
Huldah
 
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Wow. This thread is filled with Christological heresy. I'm not sure where to begin.


Also, Huldah... It appears you do not believe the Trinity. Is that correct?
 
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