Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[carbunculus]

Can I exercise free will

Yes i can exercise whatever i want but can i do what you want,

Well the answer to that is yes also, and you'll find anything you can do I can do better

 

[carbunculus]

Joking aside, my understanding of God is to understand his ways when he walked with us and talked with us,

This is God.

John 12:37-40​

Belief and Unbelief Among the Jews​

37;Even after Jesus had performed so many signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him. 38 This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet:

“Lord, who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere:

40 He has blinded their eyes
and hardened their hearts,
so they can neither see with their eyes,
nor understand with their hearts,
nor turn—and I would heal them

This Is God giving people his choice to choose him,

This means that the unsaved do indeed get shown the light, to be with the light, and by all accounts it can go on for many years.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Im not going back and forth with you about this, You know where I stand. And I know where you stand, you deny the total spiritual inability of man in spiritual death.

iow ... you (and/or your AI) cannot refute the correction to your numerous misinterpretations of Scripture and/or misrepresentations of what I (and others) have submitted in response to you ... including:

• the Hebrew word ʿāśâ (make) is not the same as the Hebrew word bārā' (create) ... or the Hebrew word nāṯan (make);
• your belief that "Ezekiel 18:31 demands that man produce a new spirit";
• the fact that the imperative is not equal to the not imperative;
• your absurd notion that "praying for God to incline [our hearts to the Lord] is completely useless!";
• your misrepresentation of what I have stated;
• your continued practice of orphaning verses from the context within which the verse is placed by the Author of Scripture ... then holding out your eisegesis as proper interpretation of Scripture (exegesis);
• your insistence that I turn "salvation into an uncertain balancing act where man must 'walk the walk' to make God's power effective"

... got it ... smh

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[brightfame52]

iow ... you (and/or your AI) cannot refute the correction to your numerous misinterpretations of Scripture and/or misrepresentations of what I (and others) have submitted in response to you ... including:

• the Hebrew word ʿāśâ (make) is not the same as the Hebrew word bārā' (create) ... or the Hebrew word nāṯan (make);
• your belief that "Ezekiel 18:31 demands that man produce a new spirit";
• the fact that the imperative is not equal to the not imperative;
• your absurd notion that "praying for God to incline [our hearts to the Lord] is completely useless!";
• your misrepresentation of what I have stated;
• your continued practice of orphaning verses from the context within which the verse is placed by the Author of Scripture ... then holding out your eisegesis as proper interpretation of Scripture (exegesis);
• your insistence that I turn "salvation into an uncertain balancing act where man must 'walk the walk' to make God's power effective"

... got it ... smh

.

Im not going back and forth with you about this, You know where I stand

 

[ScooterJackson]

i don't think we can exercise free will

Do you think the Apostle Paul was being led by demons then to write this?

Romans 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom YOU yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

 

[ScooterJackson]

iow ... you (and/or your AI)

Wow, so that's what talk forums are becoming?

Each person is getting all their responses from AI and then claiming the other person's AI is less knowledgeable than their AI?

Studies are showing that people who rely on AI for answers are learning very little and retaining very little of what they supposedly learned from AI. Looks like AI is becoming everyone's mommy and daddy.

 

[carbunculus]

Wow, so that's what talk forums are becoming?

Each person is getting all their responses from AI and then claiming the other person's AI is less knowledgeable than their AI?

Studies are showing that people who rely on AI for answers are learning very little and retaining very little of what they supposedly learned from AI. Looks like AI is becoming everyone's mommy and daddy.

Ai is not any different to getting intelligent from one human being as one human gets intelligence from another human being, it really is not.

Basically all ai is and will always be is an advanced human beings memory,
And whilst ai might crack complex DNA codes hopefully soon, Ai will always be just a tool, for our pleasure,

Where these things go wrong is people being scared of advanced technology and feeling in superior, as in my opinion people get out of there comfort zone when they can't be in control, to put it mildly

People like to be in control and can't handle being pulled out of there comfort zone. Some are ok but others go ott about it.