Shall we sin that grace may abound?

[Freed18]

“That is like saying fig trees can bring forth grapes if the conditions are right.
God's seed cannot bring forth the fruit of the devil.”

“Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth,

some an hundredfold,

some sixty,

some thirty.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:18-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:22-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That is a parable, and has nothing at all to do with the use of the word 'seed' in 1 John 3:9.

 

[Freed18]

Yes I agree, but we still have alot of rotten fruit and weeds to clear to make good ground. sometimes there can be some stinkin thinkin and a bad smell. Some sometimes there are some stubborn weeds that want to sprout back up. On going repentance is important. Sanctification can be a slow process Heb. 10:14 Heb 12:1,2 Col 3:2 Phil. 1:6. Mark 4:26-32 There is a process roots take time to grow and then a little progress, and a little more tomorrow. Lam 3:22 NEW brand new. Jesus had fear and was scared in the garden praying with blood dripping from his forehead. Meekness and lowly of heart is a timid person, but on transformation mountain ALIVE and well Moses and Elijah speak with him transforming him into someone different. (maybe in my opinion the came Holy Spirit came to him and caused him to shine kinda like Moses face shone in the presence of GOD on mount. sinai ) someone Holy gave him the power and confidence to keep his mouth shut and pray for all sinners and in Rom 8:26 the Holy Spirit groans and in 34 my brother a high priest prays for us. John 17 he also prays for us. Paul also for us

The ground from Jesus' parable is inconsequential to the truth that God's seed cannot bring forth liars, thieves, or adulterers.
Repentance can be permanent, especially when you realize that the repentant get the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:39)
Sactification happens at the application of the Lord's sanctifying, atoning, justifying, consecrating, blood. (Heb 10:10, 14)That application occurs during our baptism into Christ and into His death. (Rom 6:3-7)

 

[Freed18]

You literally just contradicted what that scripture says.

You can't see the diffrence between plucking from and jumping from ?
Plucking is done by an outside entity, and jumplig is done of one's own free will.

 

[Freed18]

If they have the mind of Christ, what is He unable to keep some?

I am guessing that you meant to type "WHY is He unable..."
God won't force anyone to remain true to Him.
He won't force men to go to heaven and be with Him forever.
While many strart on the path of righteousness, plenty fall away.

 

[Freed18]

If that's true, how can some turn away? You keep contradicting yourself.

Many are just posers, known from before time, and sent to make the church look evil.

 

[NightTwister]

You can't see the diffrence between plucking from and jumping from ?
Plucking is done by an outside entity, and jumplig is done of one's own free will.

Plucking yourself is still plucking.

 

[NightTwister]

Many are just posers, known from before time, and sent to make the church look evil.

But when they weren't posers you called them "sinless", like you call yourself.

 

[NightTwister]

Many are just posers, known from before time, and sent to make the church look evil.

But they bear fruit and you call them sinless. How do they bear fruit if they don't have the Spirit of Christ?

 

[Freed18]

Plucking yourself is still plucking.

Those assumed to be plucked, where never in His hand to begin with.

 

[Freed18]

But when they weren't posers you called them "sinless", like you call yourself.

They were always posers.

 

[Freed18]

But they bear fruit and you call them sinless. How do they bear fruit if they don't have the Spirit of Christ?

Plenty of evil men produce a false fruit, to their own glory instead of to God's glory.